Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

 

[Kenneth Latorre]

I hope the other family leaders can bring as much to the table as Eduan when it comes to character, cause I don’t think I have liked a family leader as much as I do Eduan as of the spin off.

dude is actually very reasonable and charismatic.

As far as the whole rift thing goes, I wonder what it is in the first place. It’s something even V needs opened in the current timeline. Sounds like something far more expansive than even the entire tower if it’s a threat to the entire world. I like it.

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I don't see why the soul would somehow de-limit a person but I'm ready to eat my words if it happens to be the case.
I mean, melting Baam with acid and turning him into a weapon/key for the thorn fragments or whatever Karaka wanted to do earlier seems way more insane of a concept than having a powerful soul.

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I'll re-check that later, thanks.

Pretty sure the second floor guardian calls the contract a shackle for towerborn.

Pretty sure he it was a shackle for Baam, an irregular. Not a tower born.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

I don't see why the soul would somehow de-limit a person but I'm ready to eat my words if it happens to be the case.
I mean, melting Baam with acid and turning him into a weapon/key for the thorn fragments or whatever Karaka wanted to do earlier seems way more insane of a concept than having a powerful soul.

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I'll re-check that later, thanks.

Pretty sure the second floor guardian calls the contract a shackle for towerborn.

635 for Traumerei's statement

And ch 28 for shackle thing

 

[Demonspeed]

Bam's body was born and died in the tower, was presumably taken out of the tower and then he returned. If arlen possesses nameless princess the situation is comparable. Add to that, it's a big claim that a princesses' body would be a nerf to anyone. Even mago thought it was strong.

Zahard Princesses's strong bodies stand out among Towerborns. They aren't comparable to the GWs. Mago said the body is good and it is, but it's because Nameless is "empty", which is why Chewing-gum noticed her. Of course she is talented etc but she is no Irregular. Mago would be stronger in her own body, she is using Nameless because Eduan destroyed hers.

 

[white_light]

635 for Traumerei's statement

And ch 28 for shackle thing

29 actually but thanks

Yeah I found the Valhalla one, I put it in as an edit earlier.

Well I was totally wrong about the shackle thing, my bad guys

 

[kkck]

It's a nerf in a sense that the body's capabilities are capped, no?

We can't know the capabilities of a body possessed by a being like a family head. Let alone that by all appearances nameless princess is much stronger than any other princess at this stage that we have seen so far. She even made short work of garam (though in fairness yuram seems much stronger).

 

[Demonspeed]

I doubt that. Otherwise Valhalla which was made from Amizu should not have been able to kill Gussy. Guardians are also the towerborns yet they are vastly stronger than FLs. I think the main thing tower recognizes is soul.

??? The Water Dragons are part of Traumerei's powers. Any Shinheuh, even someone who doesn't belong to Traumerei gets immensely buffed because of his Anima powers. Their origins don't matter.

 

[white_light]

We can't know the capabilities of a body possessed by a being like a family head. Let alone that by all appearances nameless princess is much stronger than any other princess at this stage that we have seen so far. She even made short work of garam (though in fairness yuram seems much stronger).

Well yeah I don't disagree, which is why I said everything I say is conjecture and that I'm ready to eat those words

 

[Ray Barracuda]

"Spells come from the incomplete side of the Tower".

That Urek statement weirds me out so much now but it's also frustrating, the guy has so much knowledge he can abuse, an absurd learning rate and also can be creative all of a sudden but he just leaves it be.


But I know damn well now that at least on the surface he's lying about something, or at least withholding the real reasons for his movements all around inside the Tower.


It's damn well sure now that he was withholding a lot of information in Season 3 for why he came there or what he was truly looking for outside Yuri's personal request that he confirmed.

 

[Demonspeed]

We can't know the capabilities of a body possessed by a being like a family head. Let alone that by all appearances nameless princess is much stronger than any other princess at this stage that we have seen so far. She even made short work of garam (though in fairness yuram seems much stronger).

Nameless had Mago inside her. It's not certain that she could have dealt with Garam like this without her. Urek even mentions it.

We saw how Neo was able to give her some trouble.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

??? The Water Dragons are part of Traumerei's powers. Any Shinheuh, even someone who doesn't belong to Traumerei gets immensely buffed because of his Anima powers. Their origins don't matter.

Out of 3 WDs he created, only Valhalla was the one capable of putting fight against Gussy. She was the only one which was created from Amizu, a towerborn body. Not to mention other 7 animals

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

"Spells come from the incomplete side of the Tower".

That Urek statement weirds me out so much now but it's also frustrating, the guy has so much knowledge he can abuse, an absurd learning rate and also can be creative all of a sudden but he just leaves it be.


But I know damn well now that at least on the surface he's lying about something, or at least withholding the real reasons for his movements all around inside the Tower.


It's damn well sure now that he was withholding a lot of information in Season 3 for why he came there or what he was truly looking for outside Yuri's personal request that he confirmed.

Do you think the rifts go to the incomplete side?

 

[Demonspeed]

Out of 3 WDs he created, only Valhalla was the one capable of putting fight against Gussy. She was the only one which was created from Amizu, a towerborn body. Not to mention other 7 animals

Because it was the only one strong enough. It still got killed and didn’t injure Gustang. Traumerei is much stronger once he absorbs them all and only has Evil Spirit as Shinheuh.

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None of the Shinheuhs are from outside. Traumerei's powers in addition to their abilities/raw strength make the difference.

 

[kkck]

Nameless had Mago inside her. It's not certain that she could have dealt with Garam like this without her. Urek even mentions it.

We saw how Neo was able to give her some trouble.

Neo pulled out an orb on nameless. That's like someone with a physical disability being in a cage match with a professional MMA fighter. And then the person with the disability pulls out a gun.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

didn’t injure Gustang

Same goes to him to. Gussy didn't injure Valhalla while we saw how he manhandle Rapid.

 

[Demonspeed]

Same goes to him to. Gussy didn't injure Valhalla while we saw how he manhandle Rapid.

Valhalla got killed in the end. What's your point? We knew Valhalla was his strongest.

 

[SHSL_ZETSUBOU]

I remembered that Nameless scratched Ureks face like Baam.

 

[Demonspeed]

Neo pulled out an orb on nameless. That's like someone with a physical disability being in a cage match with a professional MMA fighter. And then the person with the disability pulls out a gun.

Neo was a WC. Using an Orb isn't unfair. It's a Shinsoo Attribute. More than that, he was able to keep her busy for a good while.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Valhalla got killed in the end. What's your point? We knew Valhalla was his strongest.

Point is Gussy wasn't able to kill her like with Rapid. Point is she is the only one different from Traumerei's animals. She is the strongest. She is the only one made from a towerborn body. Point is it was stated she could kill Gussy. Point is only her base stat is comparable to a FL.

 

[Demonspeed]

Point is Gussy wasn't able to kill her like with Rapid. Point is she is the only one different from Traumerei's animals. She is the strongest. She is the only one made from a towerborn body. Point is it was stated she could kill Gussy. Point is only her base stat is comparable to a FL.

When did you see an Irregular Shinheuh?

 

[kkck]

Neo was a WC. Using an Orb isn't unfair. It's a Shinsoo Attribute.

That's not really the point. As far as we know an orb is way out of the realm of regulars at the second floor. At the hidden floor the gang talks about orbs requiring high tension. Meanwhile at this point in the climb being able to make even one bang is considered OP. Back in season 1 bam half assing a bang caused hong (or whatever the character's name was) in that short a time to lose his will to live. And neo pulled out an orb. Neo was a regular with ranker techniques (though not a rankers power of course).