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If Teub is mafia this game I will never let him live this down in future games lol.
 

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At this rate I think both protective dupes can go and that's 2/4 of mafia.

I really wanted to trust tubbs but his place in the setup doesn't add up and he's been tunneling Gry who is like the only reason we even have a chance as town atm.

I won't comment on the AI use much, I appreciate it being disclosed but won't read any more of it.
 

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How has nothing of note been said since I last came? Are half of Marm's posts saying she wiöö catch up.
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How has nothing of note been said since I last came? Are half of Marm's posts saying she will catch up.
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And now my internet is dying on me too
 

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It ends at 7am, you really trying to make me get up at 6.. :emobirb
When do oyuhave to go I don't want to miss your last presence
 

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Today carries a lot of weight so we better not bungle it up again.

As much as I detest Teub using AI, I think that at least says he's possibly a largely hopeless townie with no faith in his own ability so he's thrown the towel in. Where I think the lie from him is in regards to his role- maybe he's samurai and not bodyguard or maybe he's scum and happened to claim the role that Holt had.

I want to see more from BrandErin given they're now linked, more-so the Erin half. Same goes for Marm, Lawl, and invisi-dd
 

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When do oyuhave to go I don't want to miss your last presence
Whats this choice of words, did you already poison me? Is this my last presence :emobirb

Well maybe 3 h more tops.
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Today carries a lot of weight so we better not bungle it up again.

As much as I detest Teub using AI, I think that at least says he's possibly a largely hopeless townie with no faith in his own ability so he's thrown the towel in. Where I think the lie from him is in regards to his role- maybe he's samurai and not bodyguard or maybe he's scum and happened to claim the role that Holt had.

I want to see more from BrandErin given they're now linked, more-so the Erin half. Same goes for Marm, Lawl, and invisi-dd
Part of me wants to follow Lawl on Marm and see where we end up.
Another part of me wants James dead and potentially Nash hm
 

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If I want to function properly I reckon I'll have to shower in a minute and then go to bed pretty soon after. Have to pick my mother up early in the morning (around when the phase would've ended if it was 24 hours instead of 23), but given she also wants me to call her before she travels here that means I can probably pop in for a check at 5, or perhaps play from there onwards on 5 hours sleep. I'd hate to lose more beauty sleep but that just means @Copy Panda owes me food for not giving us 24 hours.
 

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It might even be more than one.

Who are you suspicious of right now?
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@Teubier I know you have a hate boner for Gry because he was sassy to you in a singular response but surely you must have some thoughts and suspicions on other players? I know you've got the time seeing you're lurking in the thread and probably wanking around in anigame too
Teubier, bodyguard is a safe claim with samurai potentially in the game, you wouldnt think there was another bodyguard
 

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It's my belief that Teub is a low hanging fruit that mafia are clamoring to lynch. But yeah if I'm wrong I'm voting him every game after this one.
 

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Part of me wants to follow Lawl on Marm and see where we end up.
Another part of me wants James dead and potentially Nash hm
I understand the curiousity, I really do. You need to figure out what you think and feel and then act on that.
For me, if Marm is on the table with James then really the other protectives need to be in the firing line too for the lynch. Teubs (2nd bodyguard), and Sty (doc claim, riding a quack doc theory that hasn't produced any illusions that we've seen yet, and with targeting that might make less sense than James). Additionally, Nash is there too on grounds of AP lynching, and "hider" barely going better than when I was lynched d1 with it last game. And then there's Lawl who needs to do something sooner rather than later.

Considering those six, I'd rule out lynching Teub first.
 

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The day ends at midnight for me (23h day). I could extend it by another hour, so it is 24h total. I can't add more
 

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The day ends at midnight for me (23h day). I could extend it by another hour, so it is 24h total. I can't add more
Please do extend it like you extend your stay at mcdo to shelve more mcchickys
 

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Whats this choice of words, did you already poison me? Is this my last presence :emobirb

Well maybe 3 h more tops.
No lol
Ok, I will make space to be free in an hour or two.
 

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🦆

So, unfortunately it seems today is way more packed than I had initially expected (and I was expecting it to be pretty busy already), and unfortunately for my schedule I'm still alive somehow, so although I'm excited to champion yet another mislynch (yay), I'll really only be able to be active in the last 3-4h of the day. On which note, since every hour counts, it seems the day started 11h ago but the timer says it's ending 12h from now, are we still getting our 24th hour or are we on daylight savings today?

Regardless, I used my 🦆 on James, the chance to have a doc-chain of perpetual immortality was too tempting.
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Sam requested your case for Marm, and if I read it correctly, your answer is "tried to kill James". I assume that's not the entirety of your 90% sure, could you elaborate on the rest?
Funny, the chance of you being quack or me being quack made me not target you because if I am quack and you get killed under my protection you become an Illusion that no longer can protect. If I protect you when you are quack, I could have protected a more investigative role.

But I'm starting to think we either have no investigative roles or the ones we have are super unlucky or they are lying about their roles/hints.

Mafia tend to leave Docs alone if they feel their targets are safe of being protected, because Docs can't prove themselves so sooner or later Townie gets into a Doc-paranoia and starts lynching Docs. Basically they want town to do the dirty deed for them. Me being 2nd doc after your claim is also adding to the paranoia due the size of our game.

Someone said poisoner cant be protected from by a doctor
Which is true.
But if both doc claims are real, one being the quack version, why would the Hosts put in Poisoner who bypasses both roles? Or maybe it doesn't bypass Quack when poisoning.

2 bodyguard and hider... two doctors... one guy has his pants on fire right now
Why are YOU acting like such a big shot when you are among the group who hasn't said anything real useful yet?
No role claim, no real role hint, no target naming, we don't even know if you used your role night 2 or not.

I'm hider there's no switch.
@Teubier if ur holding smthing nows the time to rip it

I agree there cannot be this many protectives
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Too busy to post but am reading

Shorthand thoughts are that James and Tubbs are lying
Or one of us is a dud and the other real and our purpose is to confuse town and make them waste a day phase or even two.
Also what is this flip-floping?
First you hark me like a hyena, then you save my life when its on the line, now we are back to butchering James. What is this?

How has nothing of note been said since I last came? Are half of Marm's posts saying she wiöö catch up.
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How has nothing of note been said since I last came? Are half of Marm's posts saying she will catch up.
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And now my internet is dying on me too
Marm hasn't posted yet that she caught up so I think she might still be reading.
Maybe.

If Marm dies and we got a Mortician then that Mortician can prove my action on Marm's body. That would clear me.

It's my belief that Teub is a low hanging fruit that mafia are clamoring to lynch. But yeah if I'm wrong I'm voting him every game after this one.
Who is hanging Teubier up though? No one voted for him and he is mostly zoned in on you with some support from Brand, our Apprentice now Erin Role 2.0. Most people here I see asking for lynching me, again, seems to be a Volkssport at this point, lynch the James, Nash for being "hider", Marm for being not really there, etc.
Only one I remember singling Teubier out was DD at the start of the game saying Teubier's claim is sus due Holt's role reveal.

The day ends at midnight for me (23h day). I could extend it by another hour, so it is 24h total. I can't add more
One hour more or less wouldn't matter to me due how I have to leave the house before school starts. I gonna miss the end phase anyway. Meaning I can't defend myself.
Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah~
This suck...
 

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Genuinely crashing hard so here's where I got to with documenting action claims

Day 2 updates:
James (#225): Active, used his role N1,
Gry (#227): “used my role N1 but am regretting my target already.”
Erin (#238): didn’t use her role
Gry (#239): targeted someone who played last game. (9 possible options)
Teub (#271): targeted Sam N1
Styl (#288): targeted Holt N1
Holt (#290): targeted Sty N1
Nash (#291): hid behind Sty N1
Bran (#309): “I used my role last night. I wouldn't get feedback so can't tell if it's blocked.”
Marm (#312): “I did not use my role last night, not because I didn't want to, but because I can't.”
AP (#313): “I didn't do anything, I couldn't decide on an appropriate selection, so I opted to give it another day.”
James (#372): used his action on Marm N1

N2 Actions/Comments from Day 3:
Brandish (#513): Apprentice- targeted the same player as N1 and learnt their role
Gry (#519): No target N2
James (#537): Protected Brand N2
Lawl (#543): “Can’t claim this phase”
Styl (#558): Targeted James N2
 

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I understand the curiousity, I really do. You need to figure out what you think and feel and then act on that.
For me, if Marm is on the table with James then really the other protectives need to be in the firing line too for the lynch. Teubs (2nd bodyguard), and Sty (doc claim, riding a quack doc theory that hasn't produced any illusions that we've seen yet, and with targeting that might make less sense than James). Additionally, Nash is there too on grounds of AP lynching, and "hider" barely going better than when I was lynched d1 with it last game. And then there's Lawl who needs to do something sooner rather than later.

Considering those six, I'd rule out lynching Teub first.
You do realize that if you do believe Teub's claim that means we had 2 Bodyguards in-game and no one claiming Samurai. Technically 3 bodyguards if the Necromancer were to choose to use the Bodyguard role.
Meaning Samurai ain't in the game.
Meaning leaving either Spirit bomb or Quack to be tested.
And if Quack IS tested then there should be a constant protector role aka doc since we got no blocker role coming forth or hinting at, not two one-time protectors. At least Samurai would take a Mafia down with him, Bodyguards delay the inevitable which is protecting the targets Mafia is actually after until we run out of bodies to throw at the Mafia.

We gotta have someone who can 100% protect each night just like we should have someone who can investigate players each night.

Maybe Holt fulfilled his role last night maybe not, but what certain is that he cannot protect us once more. And Pigeon choose to die over me! His role to reuse other roles is gone.
And 2 docs, 2 bodyguard, 1 Necromancer - just argh! It's so much! If one bodyguard was Samurai and one doc clearly quack I'd get it but there is no Samurai. Maybe we are both quacks? Maybe that's the joke of the situation the hosts came up with.

Genuinely crashing hard so here's where I got to with documenting action claims

Day 2 updates:
James (#225): Active, used his role N1,
Gry (#227): “used my role N1 but am regretting my target already.”
Erin (#238): didn’t use her role
Gry (#239): targeted someone who played last game. (9 possible options)
Teub (#271): targeted Sam N1
Styl (#288): targeted Holt N1
Holt (#290): targeted Sty N1
Nash (#291): hid behind Sty N1
Bran (#309): “I used my role last night. I wouldn't get feedback so can't tell if it's blocked.”
Marm (#312): “I did not use my role last night, not because I didn't want to, but because I can't.”
AP (#313): “I didn't do anything, I couldn't decide on an appropriate selection, so I opted to give it another day.”
James (#372): used his action on Marm N1

N2 Actions/Comments from Day 3:
Brandish (#513): Apprentice- targeted the same player as N1 and learnt their role
Gry (#519): No target N2
James (#537): Protected Brand N2
Lawl (#543): “Can’t claim this phase”
Styl (#558): Targeted James N2
What about roles?
You had a list about roles as well, didn't you?
Like for example your "passive" claim? Anything else new to add?
 

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Haven't updated this much unfortunately but here's this too:

Combined hints/claims:
Teub: new role, hints with sugababes- push my buttons (#5); “doug is the biggest man on campus” (#45); active (#66); targeted Sam N1 (#271); claims Bodyguard (#374)
Gry: My role will most likely be ineffective and likely do nothing (#6); “used my role N1 but am regretting my target already.” (#227); targeted someone who played last game. (#239)
Kakoha: Passive (#8) Kamikaze Bomb
Stylether: Active (#9); seems to think he’s quack; targeted Holt N1 (#288)
Brandish: Active, had it before or lied about having it before when mafia. My belief is this role appears clutch yet is never clutch. (#18); I defs lied about my role before as mafia. Can't remember if I had it. (#193); “I used my role last night. I wouldn't get feedback so can't tell if it's blocked.” (#309)
Sam: Passive, had my role before (#24)
Nash: claims Hider (#38)
AP: anyways, I'm your Waffle Fries, I'm Tasty, I'm coated in Salt, Actively Seasoned to have fill your tummy, or give your the shits (#67); “I didn't do anything, I couldn't decide on an appropriate selection, so I opted to give it another day. (#313) Necromancer
Erin: as for my role i think i had it already, (#69); I can just for now i am toxine , i have a decent role but nothing special (#160); didn’t use her role N1 (#238)
Marm: My role is a staple, a true (dutch) classic - just like the very cute McKroket. (#73); “I did not use my role last night, not because I didn't want to, but because I can't.” (#312)
Dd: Active (#75)
Holt: I’m also an active role. Hint is someone connected to inter Miami (football) wise (#81); targeted Sty N1 (#290) Bodyguard
James: Active, used his role N1 (#225); claims doctor
 
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