Games Mafia Game 145 - Vampire Crawlers - END GAME

[Degojaru]

.

Maybe this helps but let me add a bit explanation I remember.
D1 anterior seeing my role I was thinking how to use it, my firsts objetives were Panda & Hardy, Panda because I sussed him on D1 and Hardy for his attitude in D1, expecting to get guilty Panda / innocent Hardy. But then I readed Sam starting to doubt Nash so ended choosing her, she lied me before so a role result would help, I got guilty but knowing Det has sanities, I can't believe 100% on that.
D2 I went back a bit late (like 40min before EoD) and sent my objetive cause last time I spent 50min reading so didn't wanna lost my role use, chosen Marm cause I readed her as green whole game and got Innocent. So if I believed all the game in Marm, it means that previous result from Nash must be sane.
After ended reading D2 I was still in time, like 15-10min left so I readed Pom's claim and thought choosing her assuming she gonna die for maf kill so with role revealed it's a sanity confirmation, but I got my result on Marm so can't changed it at time.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Stop pooping

I've genuinely got diarrhoea Kelso

I'll mail you a jar

 

[Tatsumaki]

I've genuinely got diarrhoea Kelso

 

[SirSamuel016]

Is this worse than Vali's masturbation admission?

 

[Degojaru]

Maybe this helps but let me add a bit explanation I remember.
D1 anterior seeing my role I was thinking how to use it, my firsts objetives were Panda & Hardy, Panda because I sussed him on D1 and Hardy for his attitude in D1, expecting to get guilty Panda / innocent Hardy. But then I readed Sam starting to doubt Nash so ended choosing her, she lied me before so a role result would help, I got guilty but knowing Det has sanities, I can't believe 100% on that.
D2 I went back a bit late (like 40min before EoD) and sent my objetive cause last time I spent 50min reading so didn't wanna lost my role use, chosen Marm cause I readed her as green whole game and got Innocent. So if I believed all the game in Marm, it means that previous result from Nash must be sane.
After ended reading D2 I was still in time, like 15-10min left so I readed Pom's claim and thought choosing her assuming she gonna die for maf kill so with role revealed it's a sanity confirmation, but I got my result on Marm so can't changed it at time.

D1 after*

 

[Marmalade]

Yes actually

 

[Hardy]

I believe Vali for what it’s worth. His behavior feels more frustrated town, I don’t see the mafia gameplan of not claiming when asked right away/drawing attention to himself unnecessary. The not doing anything d1 feels town to me. There is no reason he would draw even more attention to himself when they have had multiple nights to figure out what to claim + the targets with that. He reminds me of his last game somewhat, in which he was a frustrated town.

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=WIFOM

 

[Marmalade]

This type of language makes my head hurt so much i shall look at it though

 

[Hardy]

D1 anterior seeing my role I was thinking how to use it, my firsts objetives were Panda & Hardy, Panda because I sussed him on D1 and Hardy for his attitude in D1, expecting to get guilty Panda / innocent Hardy. But then I readed Sam starting to doubt Nash so ended choosing her, she lied me before so a role result would help, I got guilty but knowing Det has sanities, I can't believe 100% on that.

Dude but you trusted Nash D2. It doesn't match your timeline

 

[Natasha]

Even though end of day got extended I will have to leave for work and miss it

Assuming we lynch maf and don't lose I'm probably not surviving next night since I've claimed

My result on Sam is hard to navigate cause it requires assumptions on Kako target and sanity
But the extra det & prosti claim are not hard to see maf in

Det/Det/Doc/Prosti has 1-2 mafia in it

5x Kakoha (Hardy #266 #541, Lady pompom #277, Tatsumaki #327, Degojaru #328, Marmalade #556, Copy Panda #557)

Vali pissed his vote away on me while Dego helped build the lynch on Kako.
Assuming Kako was potentially a Mdet victim in that setup dego + hardy/tatsu/marm make sense as the driving force of that lynch.

This doesn't excuse Vali as possible 3rd, but he's not really been co-operating with anyone and the chances of lost town are too high rn.

Copa is green imo

nats difficult, lethargic week for me idk if ill catch her in a lie or even feel her sus vibes. sam i think could fool me too but in his case i do think he might reveal a bit on himself. if we dont produce a good lynch for d1 i suggest we kill a good liar

in this game? nat and lawl primarily. maybe a green. if marm isnt night killed after a few phases perhaps her too

He seeded quite a few lines to follow as the game went on to navigate in later days if he wanted to. At any point he coulda returned to these thoughts and had a default direction to push us in but he's been discussing other worldviews without just defaulting to his first impressions. The progression feels natural.

So let that be my legacy, hands off copan and make vali have to prove his block.

Sorry that I don't have more time today. I'll check in one more time before I clock in at work to lock and see if anyone points out a flaw in my logic.

 

[Vali x lucifer]

@Hardy how much do you trust @Sam as green ?

And vice versa

 

[Hardy]

This type of language makes my head hurt so much i shall look at it though

Basically you can't just assume stuff like that. It could very well be intentional because "no one would do that!!!" (or he simply doesn't know better).

 

[Degojaru]

Dude but you trusted Nash D2. It doesn't match your timeline

But I trust Nash text and analysis, she can be lying like before

 

[Hardy]

@Hardy how much do you trust @Sam as green ?

And vice versa

If he's mafia I'll look silly in the post game. I don't understand the arguments against him. Panda complained about a tunnel at one point I believe but the other way around also applies.

 

[Degojaru]

@Hardy how much do you trust @Sam as green ?

And vice versa

you pinging a fake Sam

 

[Hardy]

But I trust Nash text and analysis, she can be lying like before

But then why target het N1

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her*

 

[Vali x lucifer]

you pinging a fake Sam

Ops @SirSamuel016 question about how much you trust Hardy as green ?

 

[Degojaru]

But then why target het N1

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her*

If I get Innocent from her and I confirm my sanity, I can trust her with valid reasons

 

[Copy Panda]

Are you just doubting me because I voted you before?

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Seeing what you said about Lawl, I assume you did same with me

No Im doubting we have two detectives and a necro. Also your roll out I found somewhat clumsy despite you only had to list your targets in order

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My hamby activities are resuming soon, Ill try to be around as much as I can be. I'd love to hear thoughts on how to proceed and who to lynch

 

[Hardy]

Maybe this helps but let me add a bit explanation I remember.
D1 anterior seeing my role I was thinking how to use it, my firsts objetives were Panda & Hardy, Panda because I sussed him on D1 and Hardy for his attitude in D1, expecting to get guilty Panda / innocent Hardy. But then I readed Sam starting to doubt Nash so ended choosing her, she lied me before so a role result would help, I got guilty but knowing Det has sanities, I can't believe 100% on that.
D2 I went back a bit late (like 40min before EoD) and sent my objetive cause last time I spent 50min reading so didn't wanna lost my role use, chosen Marm cause I readed her as green whole game and got Innocent. So if I believed all the game in Marm, it means that previous result from Nash must be sane.
After ended reading D2 I was still in time, like 15-10min left so I readed Pom's claim and thought choosing her assuming she gonna die for maf kill so with role revealed it's a sanity confirmation, but I got my result on Marm so can't changed it at time.

You considered using Det on someone you didn't trust.

You trusted Nash. But because Nash is a good liar (you saw this last game and Sam commented on it) you investigated Nash for peace of mind.

Got guilty.

D2 starts. You trust Nash and you are looking forward to your night result to see if you are correct (or not).

So then n2 why were you going for other players you also trusted? wouldn't you be expecting another guilty result, getting nothing out of it?

I understand the pom confirm was too good to pass but at the end of the day you claim you didn't do that anyway.