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[NewUser767s]

The thing about the sales discussion is simple: monoculture is either dying or is already dead, with a few zombies left around that will gradually decay as well. Covid was basically the last breath of it. Jujutsu Kaisen, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Tokyo Revengers, etc are part of the last batch of monocultural manga helped by the lockdowns. Post-covid is the era of fragmentation where more and more people enjoy the freedom to choose what to read or watch.

Not going to reply to all of this. I agree in some points especially monoculture dying.

However saying all of this when the jujutsu memes and weekly hype peak was like two years ago is a bit off. I think it can still happen, nothing drastically changed in two years.

Unless you think AI perfected algorithms now and that's the nail in the coffin.

 

[FantasticFootno]

So on a completely different note, when do people think we might start seeing Shinobi circulation numbers? Maybe when the anime gets announced? I've given up on it ever happening for Kiyoshi lol, but I feel like Shinobi can inch its way towards some milestone that shueisha feels happy publishing. Like even Chojo had circulation numbers published in the end.

 

[needtorelax]

I'm just assuming Roku doesn't get as much pushback as Shibobi did since everyone's gotten accustomed to these shenanigains under Saito's tenure lol. (Kagurabachi remains a sore point).
Also it feels like a lot of antis are the battle focused crowd so Roku doesn't even register on their radar to earn their ire unlike Kiyoshi or Shinobi(even then the obnoxious hate for them has cooled down considerably).

So on a completely different note, when do people think we might start seeing Shinobi circulation numbers?

It should have hit a mil already if roboco got her mil with 11 volumes. Maybe the 12th volume will get the announcement.

Edit: noticed I still had a post on this page

Not sure it will get that high everyone already knows about it...it's not some hidden gem like Shinobi undercover or Akane that has the potential to break out once people find out about it

I wouldn't really call any manga published in Jump a hidden gem lol.(not about the quality of jump titles but their exposure)

 

[Kiaida]

However saying all of this when the jujutsu memes and weekly hype peak was like two years ago is a bit off. I think it can still happen, nothing drastically changed in two years.

I'm not saying it can't happen, there's just no guarantee it'll happen with the same intensity or frequency with all the new mainstream hits. Some people just never move on. Back when the Big 3 were in the magazine, some people that enjoyed series like Dragon Ball or YYH just called them trash and refused to read. Many of them are just happy watching the fourth remake of Dragon Ball Super or just stopped watching anime or reading manga.

It's the same for every big series and genre. Supposedly there are millions that love sports anime because they're still buying everything Haikyu, yet no one is able to debut a new hit sports manga in almost a decade. These people are satisfied with Slam Dunk or Haikyu.

Kagurabachi is probably already the kind of anomaly that will be full of internet fandom culture, memes, mainstream popularity and hit 30, 40 50, etc million units sold even if there's no guarantee it can hit the numbers Jujutsu Kaisen did as it was born during the Covid boom (which is why I'll never buy into the idea that its TOC correlates to the survey votes). But there's a chance Ichi "only" grows to a 100~150k hit and nothing else gets even close to that.

 

[RealityChecker]

Kagurabachi is probably already the kind of anomaly that will be full of internet fandom culture, memes, mainstream popularity and hit 30, 40 50, etc million units sold

I think Ruri will have more chance of this.

 

[FantasticFootno]

Yeah idk, I feel like kagurabachi is pretty close to peak saturation already. I think its max will be like 200k per volume, around the anime airing. Quote me when I’m wrong in a few months, but like all things considered, similar series also lacked substantial boosts from their anime.

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Meanwhile something like ruri has had less eyes on it due to the infrequent release schedule, and so an anime is primed to just put those eyes back on it.

 

[Dog the dog]

I still don't get the logic behind: "Jump is in a slump, we need new readers... I know! Let's bring in some old, fifty-year-old authors—*they’ll* surely breathe new life into the magazine!!"

Jump's primary demographic today consists of people in their late 20s and 30s, who are much easier to please with products that appeal to their childhood than with new, unknown series. It’s also much safer for investors and executives to produce content based on well-established franchises than to take a chance on new titles that have a high potential to fail or not be profitable enough. Just as Disney-Pixar generates more attention (and money) with endless sequels and live-action adaptations than with new ideas, at Jump it's also safer to announce the return of popular creators than to promote new ones, unless the latter manage to attract attention on their own right from the start (as happened with Kagurabachi and Someone Hertz).

So on a completely different note, when do people think we might start seeing Shinobi circulation numbers? Maybe when the anime gets announced? I've given up on it ever happening for Kiyoshi lol, but I feel like Shinobi can inch its way towards some milestone that shueisha feels happy publishing. Like even Chojo had circulation numbers published in the end.

Maybe when Shinobi finally outsells Nue (which will happen eventually, not because Shinobi is growing in sales, but because Nue keeps declining every volume).

 

[FantasticFootno]

Maybe when Shinobi finally outsells Nue (which will happen eventually, not because Shinobi is growing in sales, but because Nue keeps declining every volume).

Eh, as a guy who likes shinobi and doesn’t care for nue, I feel like that won’t happen. I feel like the decline will stop around the anime launching, and as there’s no current reason for shinobi to suddenly grow, nue will probably end before any volume drops below shinobi numbers. It’s almost on the final boss, anyway. No way it lasts a year beyond the anime airing.

 

[SharkBait]

Yeah idk, I feel like kagurabachi is pretty close to peak saturation already. I think its max will be like 200k per volume, around the anime airing. Quote me when I’m wrong in a few months, but like all things considered, similar series also lacked substantial boosts from their anime.

Not sure it will get that high everyone already knows about it...it's not some hidden gem like Shinobi undercover or Akane that has the potential to break out once people find out about it

 

[Serrik]

Regarding the volume sales, the market is in a deep decline right now. From 2024 to 2025 volume sales dropped from 255 million to 218 million. That is around ~15% drop. There is no reason to expect this drop to slowdown or stop. In fact, you can even look at series like Spy X Family to see the trend for 2026. It is just one example but it highlights the extreme decline of the industry.

Spy X Family Volume 16 (October 2025 release, 4 weeks sales) - 573, 266

Spy X Family Volume 17 (April 2026 release, 4 weeks sales) - ~510k with special edition

Spy X Family Volume 18 (November 2026 release, 1 weeks sales) ~253k sales (one week), will likely land around 420-450k.

I think 2026 will experience another ~15-20% drop. It just hard to evaluate series by volume sales in the current environment and I don't think we should use a drop of volume sales as a metric to measure success or failure for established series (8+ volumes).

 

[Kiaida]

Nue isn't in constant decline, volumes 11 to 15 sold more than volume 10, then it dipped on volume 16, but ranked a rare 5th week that basically pushed it to usual numbers. It's as consistent as Shinobi, which last volume only gained on Nue because of how nonsensical the Oricon-Shoseki tracking is by fans: Nue's 2nd week ranked on Oricon with 7500 copies and Shinobi didn't (below 7k, I think), Nue also ranked above Shinobi on Shoseki that week (more than 8K to 7.6k). But Nue's wk2 was recorded with Oricon's number and Shinobi with Shoseki's, meaning Nue outranked it in both weekly rankings selling at least +1k copies more, but somehow these fan rankings we share here ended up with Shinobi above that week.

Anyway, this isn't even getting into digital where the difference is big.

It’s almost on the final boss, anyway. No way it lasts a year beyond the anime airing.

Kasha isn't the last boss. There's Gashadokuro and we don't know how the story will develop around other villains like Raisei or Kurikara. Last chapter even introduced a different Kyokotsu user that is probably a villain as well.

 

[Broseph]

Monoculture may be dead but there will also be a work or two that prove to be the exception. Not saying it’ll be Kagurabachi but I think something like that will pop up. Same way how GTAVI and Avengers are set to make multiple billions this year even though both are in mature industries. It’s just going to be more rare to have those kind of mega hits but I think it’ll happen eventually

 

[Wookitake]

Kagurabachi is WSJ only shot of having massive hit. Ichi does not look like it has mainstream appeal nor does other manga currently running.

I believe that's too much anime-related. If Ichi gets an anime and it's top notch in animation, it will get huge.

IMO that's what's going to happen with KGB.

 

[RealityChecker]

I believe that's too much anime-related. If Ichi gets an anime and it's top notch in animation, it will get huge.

IMO that's what's going to happen with KGB.

I believe that for Ruri Dragon.

 

[SunPillar]

For me I can see Ruri Dragon getting big in Japan but it not translating to the west. Like at best it'll be a Spy x Family level of popular here, which never reached the heights of JJK, MHA, or KNY. Although I guess I could argue I can see the reverse being true for Kagurabachi.

 

[FantasticFootno]

Kasha isn't the last boss. There's Gashadokuro and we don't know how the story will develop around other villains like Raisei or Kurikara. Last chapter even introduced a different Kyokotsu user that is probably a villain as well.

Uh yeah lol? That’s why I didn’t say that. Once this arc ends, there will be one hyo left. Hence “almost on the final boss”. I could have said final arc, but idk if there will be like a few arcs between now and when he gets defeated.

 

[monstera11]

Kagurabachi is only 14 pages this week...smh. If it was not for Cannon Master still holding on, Kagurabachi would have 4 straight last place finishes. I've been seeing people complain that this arc is being dragged out. That is kind of crazy to think of when the guy is shorting chapters by 3-6 pages on a weekly basis. Maybe the story progression is being hampered by his inability to complete an entire chapter. Would 4 more pages (about 2 whole chapters worth of material) per chapter move the story ahead or is each chapter's cliffhanger the same it would be if he was doing 19 pages? At this point I really hope they consider moving him to a different magazine or jump+ where he could do a bi-weekly thing.

Under Doctor back in the bottom 5 where it belongs!

Your post is a bit of an oxymoron. They couldn't constantly lose big hits if they weren't making any notable or new ones.
This color page does absolutely nothing for me. The art style looks like it's supposed to be out of the 50's or something. Hopefully the art style will play into the story otherwise this one is likely DOA for me.

This color page feels lifeless. While the character designs look cool the characters themselves are all very bland here. There is no soul or personality here.

Really good color page.

The best color page of this batch.
It doesn't even matter whether it is only 14 or 15 pages. The fact of the matter is that it is not a full 19 pages, yet again. That should be more of the talking point, rather than the leakers missing one page when the author misses 4 on a weekly basis.
IMO it has nowhere to go but up right from the start. If it can't clear the ridiculously low bar that I have set for it then it's likely not for me.
I am looking forward to this manga. I have high hopes for it.
Tell me you are not up-to-date without telling me you are not up-to-date. They have been progressing the plot in Roku for several weeks now. The author certainly has not abandoned the main plot as you say.

Ura is falling into the same bin as Someone Hertz for me. Even though I read it weekly and it occasionally has a chapter I feel is good, I do not think these manga are for me. I am not getting the appeal of either of them. The fanservice in Ura is not appealing to me at all and actually makes me not like reading it. This is likely due to my advanced age and who they are targeting. I'd be happy for this to be replaced by something more my taste.
Are you still on this? I did a huge breakdown of this the other day. You cannot compare these series to Bleach. Bleach took 10 years before it started to decline and it was a slow decent to the bottom. It was 14 years into its run before it started to crater at the bottom of the magazine. You cannot compare that to what is happening to Kagurabachi 4 years and only 140 chapters in to its run. You are not even comparing apples to oranges here. you are comparing a Ferrari to a donkey.

Your comment is being obstuse on purpose. I was referring to how most of their recent new series for the past 1 year not hold candle to the ones that recently ended. A lot of their new series are failures.

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For me I can see Ruri Dragon getting big in Japan but it not translating to the west. Like at best it'll be a Spy x Family level of popular here, which never reached the heights of JJK, MHA, or KNY. Although I guess I could argue I can see the reverse being true for Kagurabachi.

Tbh I would really prefer mangas to be "spyxfamily level" as you call it. Extremely successful in BOTH Japan AND outside of Japan. But lacking the noises from toxic dudebros.

Spy x Family IS extremely popular outside of Japan. What you were referring to are the noises from toxic dudebros who can only meme, slanders and argue in X, reddit, tiktok, etc. It is not exactly the real measure of success

 

[Broseph]

Spy x Family IS extremely popular outside of Japan. What you were referring to are the noises from toxic dudebros who can only meme, slanders and argue in X, reddit, tiktok, etc. It is not exactly the real measure of success

Yeah SxF manga sales in countries like France and US is very strong. I assume it's like that if not moreso in places like SE Asia and South Korea as well. I think people will realize that when international totals get added to their circulation. It won't be as high as KNY and JJK that went up like 50+ million copies when international numbers were added, but I think SxF and CSM will have a big boost when those are added

People just don't realize it because their perception of 'big series' is entirely driven by what people are arguing and meming about on Twitter and TikTok

 

[SharkBait]

Your comment is being obstuse on purpose. I was referring to how most of their recent new series for the past 1 year not hold candle to the ones that recently ended. A lot of their new series are failures.

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Tbh I would really prefer mangas to be "spyxfamily level" as you call it. Extremely successful in BOTH Japan AND outside of Japan. But lacking the noises from toxic dudebros.

Spy x Family IS extremely popular outside of Japan. What you were referring to are the noises from toxic dudebros who can only meme, slanders and argue in X, reddit, tiktok, etc. It is not exactly the real measure of success

Seen so many American families cosplay to the American theaters in spy x family, also tons of casuals I've seen have the FunkoPops at work

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Let's flippin' go, return of the best heros ever.

 

[SunPillar]

Your comment is being obstuse on purpose. I was referring to how most of their recent new series for the past 1 year not hold candle to the ones that recently ended. A lot of their new series are failures.

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Tbh I would really prefer mangas to be "spyxfamily level" as you call it. Extremely successful in BOTH Japan AND outside of Japan. But lacking the noises from toxic dudebros.

Spy x Family IS extremely popular outside of Japan. What you were referring to are the noises from toxic dudebros who can only meme, slanders and argue in X, reddit, tiktok, etc. It is not exactly the real measure of success

I meant more so the general public, I see JJK, MHA, OP, Dragon Ball, and KNY shirts on people all the time and I rarely if ever see Spy x Family. I'm aware that's anecdotal and once again I'm not saying the series isn't popular, but I wouldn't say it's reached the mainstream like those have.