Gol D. Rogers crew/nakama

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Why on earth would you want that? It would completely ruin the story. It would take out nearly all the mystery in the OP world, the fact is the old man knows wayyyyyy too much. He is basically Oda's own cameo in the manga, the answer to all of our questions.

His air time will be brief, he may reveal one or two things, and maybe hint at some others, but Luffy would rather find out the answers on his own.
I'm sorry if I gave the wrong impression, I also don't want to hear major spoilers from him. It would definitely ruin the story like you said. What I mean is that he is just the right person to help the strawhat-gang along a bit. He can give some more info about the new world, how things go there and such things, more like Lola did on Thriller Bark. She gave them a bit more info about the 'vivre-card' which Luffy got from Ace. But I definitely don't want major spoilers like what is One Piece, or where is the location of Raftel, or what was the color of Roger's undies, etc... ^^;

You're right about the two roles Rayleigh could/probably will play, i.e. coating and helping out with fighting the big guys. Well, that are the most logical roles anyway. :amuse
 

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i mentioned this in a nother thread but something about gold.


How does someone mess up GOLD and GOL.D

I mean in english this makes sense but remember, this is a japanese manga.

In japanese, Im guessing Gold in katakana would be spelled ゴルド(GORUDO)

If in japanese you were to say Gol. D it would be ゴル. ディ (Goru Di)

I wonder if in the original jap ver. they just spelled it in english or in japanese, because it makes no sense in jap
 

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It's not so much a mess up as a play on the word. The pirate king, who had the one piece, being known as Gold Rogers seems more befitting than Gol D.

Also, his second-mate was Silvers. I wouldn't actually be that surprised if Rayleigh called Gol Gold as a nickname.
 

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actually its Silver S. Rayleigh.
 

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i mentioned this in a nother thread but something about gold.


How does someone mess up GOLD and GOL.D

I mean in english this makes sense but remember, this is a japanese manga.

In japanese, Im guessing Gold in katakana would be spelled ゴルド(GORUDO)

If in japanese you were to say Gol. D it would be ゴル. ディ (Goru Di)

I wonder if in the original jap ver. they just spelled it in english or in japanese, because it makes no sense in jap
D in one piece in this particular sense was always written "D"
in kana: ゴル D. ロジャー in romanji: Goru D. Rojā (opwiki)

it is up to now not clarified why everyone calls him "Gold" Roger. But apart from Oda hiding it until Drumisland Arc for the sake of not spoiling us or something, it migt just be the lazy tongue of the people in OP.


actually its Silver S. Rayleigh.
actually its not: シルバーズ・レイリー
Shirubaazu Reirii
there is no US style middlenameshortage as in Hagwar D. Saul or John F. Kennedy
 
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gold and silver? lol ^^
 

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Yes, as Akainu pointed out, nobody was confusing Gol D. and Gold. It's just that, well Gold Roger sounds like a really cool name for a pirate, so Roger basically noticed that his name could sound incredibly awesome with a bit of tweaking and tweaked it. And then this nickname he went by became so cemented in the popular mind once he got famous that almost nobody even knew that his name was actually Gol D. Roger. I think that's the simplest explanation.

As to Rayleigh coming up with the play on Roger's name, I could see it happening, though I'm not sure if Oda will tell us either way. I guess it depends on how long Rayleigh knew Roger, e.g. if he knew Roger perhaps from a bit before Roger became a pirate. And yeah, the Gold/Silver thing is a clever joke on Oda's part. Gold being the more precious metal, it's part of the epithet of the Pirate King. And silver being a precious metal, but not as precious as gold, it's part of the epithet of the first-mate of the Pirate King. (I'm think most people had already gotten that joke, but in case anyone didn't, I just wanted to explain it.)
 

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Yes, as Akainu pointed out, nobody was confusing Gol D. and Gold. It's just that, well Gold Roger sounds like a really cool name for a pirate, so Roger basically noticed that his name could sound incredibly awesome with a bit of tweaking and tweaked it. And then this nickname he went by became so cemented in the popular mind once he got famous that almost nobody even knew that his name was actually Gol D. Roger. I think that's the simplest explanation....
yeah, i'm with you on this one about roger's name...

another thing i'm wonderin and i dunno if anyone's mentioned it in this thread but shakky said garp chased about 40 years ago, so how old is this woman? how long has garp been a marine for? and you know what, i was thinking she could have been a part of roger's pirate gang, but i think she was before his time or something, because roger died bout 20 years ago and he didn't exactly look old so i dunno, jus trynna get something going...

and about garp, i can't seem to shake the idea that he was a higher ranked officer like an admiral and was demoted because of something, because he is freakishly strong...it's either that or there's a reason why he hasn't made admiral yet...
 

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there's a reason why he hasn't made admiral yet...
Maybe he just doesnt want to be one. Plus with his random/jovial attitude would he make the best Admiral.
 

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another thing i'm wonderin and i dunno if anyone's mentioned it in this thread but shakky said garp chased about 40 years ago, so how old is this woman? how long has garp been a marine for? and you know what, i was thinking she could have been a part of roger's pirate gang, but i think she was before his time or something, because roger died bout 20 years ago and he didn't exactly look old so i dunno, jus trynna get something going...
She probably carries her age better than most gals. Just compare her with Shanks.
He doesn't look too old either. And he should be around 40 at least. They could be of the same, or of aproximately the same age.
 

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Shanks is 37. Shakky can't be around Shanks' age, she quit pirating before he was even born. You know, I think people are making a mistake here when they assume that when Shakky said that Garp chased her, she meant the relatively high-ranking Garp we know. Assuming Shakky is very well-preserved and is in her mid 70's, and Garp is in his mid-60's, then about 50 years ago, Garp would have been a young Navy recruit, and Shakky would have been a pirate in her 20's. Garp WAS chasing her, just not as the head of the crew, he was just a regular Marine. Then, about 10 years later, Garp was in his 20's, and had by then become in charge of his own crew, and Shakky was in her 30's, still a pirate, and Garp still chased her occasionally. Then she quit, and Garp went on to become a vice-admiral. My point: people are making way too big a deal of Shakky's age. Garp chased her as a teenager and a man in his early 20's, and now it's been 40 years and he's in his 60's, and Shakky's in her 70's. I think that explains everything fine.

As to expectations that Shakky was in Roger's crew, I flatly refuse to believe it. For one thing, she said she quit pirating about 40 years ago. Roger died 22 years ago, and was probably pirating for 3 or 4 years before that, so he started out around 25 years ago. Shakky was retired then. Also, I'm against every singe knowledgable character in One Piece having to be part of Roger's crew. Maybe she just met him when he passed the Sabaody Archipelago? Or maybe she never even met him in person? I find that last bit unlikely, but I thinkt he most reasonable explanation is that Shakky may have met with Roger when he went to Fishman Island, but that's it. Her days as a pirate are too far back for her to have been in Roger's crew. They are part of different eras of piracy.
 

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thank you imitorar, very useful posts and i think that sorta covers anything i had to add to that...
 

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Actually, didn't Roger die 22 years ago at the start of OP? Meaning like...25 years now? Not that that changes anything in your argument.

The only point I would contest is your assumption that Roger took 3-4 years to do the Grand Line. Though it would be comparable to Luffy's extraordinary rise, I expect Luffy to be seen as above the original Pirate King and so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Luffy who was the blast through the Grand Line and Roger actually took his time to see some sights, fight some marines, etc. I would put Roger's journey at the 5-10 year category which then might just squeeze Shakkie into the crew since 40 years is probably an estimation.

Nothing to say Shakkie was in her 20s as a pirate either, she could have been similiar to Robin and being chased by marines from a very young age.
 

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@bittman: i think only a couple of months have gone by since the start of one piece...so technically it's still 22 years(if that's how long ago roger died)
 

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@bittman: i think only a couple of months have gone by since the start of one piece...so technically it's still 22 years(if that's how long ago roger died)
I think it has been at least 2 years... i mean, the GL cant be so ease, if it was, people wouldnt be so scared of it. I think that we dont see every island the SH visit, just the important ones, and also the panels where they apeear to be traveling (see right after TB for example) could be taking months!!
Oda really should say how long the journey has taken so far...

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The only point I would contest is your assumption that Roger took 3-4 years to do the Grand Line. Though it would be comparable to Luffy's extraordinary rise, I expect Luffy to be seen as above the original Pirate King and so I wouldn't be surprised if it was Luffy who was the blast through the Grand Line and Roger actually took his time to see some sights, fight some marines, etc. I would put Roger's journey at the 5-10 year category
I totally agree with that. Roger must have been at see for at least 5-10 years, probably more. I expect the second half of the GL to be much more dificult than the 1st, otherwise the Younko (dont know how to spell it) would have finished it already

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Her days as a pirate are too far back for her to have been in Roger's crew. They are part of different eras of piracy.
I think it was the other way around... IMO Roger was part of Shakki´s crew


The ones in Roger crew

Comfirmed:
1) Reylegh
2) Shanks
3) Buggy

Possibles:
1) Franki´s father
2) Dragon (unlikely)
3) Nico Olivia
4) That old man who live with Laboon
5) Dr. Kuhera
6) Another one of the Emperors
7) The 7th Shishibukai
 
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it was definately under one year, as the minimum speculation goes on about 2-3 months.
that's the special thing about Luffy and his crew, that they were rising up that fast. sure there is some time inbetween the islands, but we would have to assume that there is a whole lot of unshown adventures to get up to 2 years (not to mention the totally diffrent geography), but all that doesn't belong here.
btw.: I could agree with you about Gol's journey taking 3-5 years though ^^

About Shaky I'd really like to know what her reason was to quit piracy. normal way would be retiring because of age or illness, but she seems rather good in shape so was it love? a child? she's a weird character up to now but I think we might see more of her someday.

It would also be interesting how Gol related to his crew. WB treats everyone on his ship as his son, though he has a really big crew. shanks on the other hand is, like Roger has been, too young to be a parental figure and fills more position of a friend (like Luffy imo).
But then again Gol's crew was bigger then Luffy's is with cabin boys (shanks and buggy) and so on.
 

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So what u mean is that Half of the grand line is just
The welcome island--> Litle garden--> Drum-->Alabasta--> Jaya --> Sky island (if u dont consider that as Jaya)-->Long Island--> Water Seven--> Ennies Lobby--> (since TB isnt an island) Red Line
8 Islands (not considering sky) is half of the world!! i dont think thats right, the WG has more than 170 countries (wicth can have several islands as seen in Alabasta) affiliated to it (http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/398/11/) althought not all of them are on GL, i expect at least 40, and thats just the ones who are with the WG...

My point is the GL cant be so small

I just realised that this has nothing to do with the thread so...here is some on topic stuff

I had said this:
The ones in Roger crew

Comfirmed:
1) Reylegh
2) Shanks
3) Buggy

Possibles:
1) Franki´s father
2) Dragon (unlikely)
3) Nico Olivia
4) That old man who live with Laboon
5) Dr. Kuhera
6) Another one of the Emperors
7) The 7th Shishibukai

But i just realised that n° 4 cant be, because he was there when Brooks crew came to GL and that was long before Gold´s time
 

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GL like you counted it isn't half of the world! you totally forgot to count the 4 blues and except of that, there are 7 diffrent magnetic lines on GL at the beginning which narrow down to 5 at redline and after that its again 5 further narrowing down to 1 which leads to raftel. and then you still haven't visited all islands because there are things like the skyislands (which is more than skypia, but afaik they don't belong to WG)

as for your listed possibilities, all just imo:
1)Franki´s father: unlikely because it doesn't fit the crews mentality
2)Dragon (unlikely): agree.
3)Nico Olivia:unlikely because she travelled with archeologists who were all anihilated afaik
4)That old man who live with Laboon: you excluded him yourself, but there's no doubt he knew Gol
5)Dr. Kuhera: might be but she is soooooooooooooooo old that its unlikely again
6)Another one of the Emperors: unlikely as there is already 1 with shanks
7)The 7th Shishibukai: as any of the shichis might be as we don't know their origins (jinbei, flamingo, kuma)
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What i meant is that it is half of hte world to travel by ship...
i mean take earth, if u compare the SH journey to something in the real world it wold be like traveling half way acroos the equador, in a sail ship (not even a motorized one) i might add. Unless the world has a really small radius, i dont think the SH could sail half way trough it in just 2-3 months..

1)Franki´s father: unlikely because it doesn't fit the crews mentality
2)Dragon (unlikely): agree.
3)Nico Olivia:unlikely because she travelled with archeologists who were all anihilated afaik
4)That old man who live with Laboon: you excluded him yourself, but there's no doubt he knew Gol
5)Dr. Kuhera: might be but she is soooooooooooooooo old that its unlikely again
6)Another of the emperors: unlikely as there is already 1 with shanks
7)The 7th Shishibukai: as any of the shichis might be as we don't know their origins (jinbei, flamingo, kuma)
1) Franki´s father: i think its a real possibility
3) Nico olivia agreed
5) Dr kuhera agreed
6) Anothe of the emperors: i dont think Shanks beeing one means there cant be another one... i mean Rogers crew was really powerfull (just look at reylegh)
7) The 7th Shishibukai as any of the shichis might be as we don't know their origins (jinbei, flamingo, kuma): agreed
 

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The grans line is huge, we symply dont see how much time the strawhats spend travelling from one island to another. For all we know there is a several month gap between each major arc.
 
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