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Okay, I know we are pretty late on posting this news here. But everyone knows that Obama has recently won the Nobel Peace Prize. A surprise win indeed! Perhaps a prize that is given to him too early?

Quoted from The Economist on 09 October 2009:

Even greater expectations

Is it premature to give Barack Obama the Nobel peace prize, less than a year into his presidency?

BARACK OBAMA, who has been America's president for just nine months, has won the 2009 Nobel peace prize. Perhaps the Nordic judges felt it was a suitable consolation after Chicago lost out to Rio de Janeiro in its bid to host the 2016 Olympic games. Or the prizegivers might have felt moved by Mr Obama’s personal story: that a mixed-race man is president says much about the peaceful progress on race relations in America. Instead they emphasised Mr Obama’s aspirations and his commitment to diplomacy, even if, so far, he has achieved little that is concrete.

Most broadly, he has sought to engage with opponents, saying that America would “extend a hand, if you unclench your fist”, for example to those who were earlier dismissed as an “axis of evil”. Somewhat to the discomfort of Iran’s president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, who had bolstered his domestic support by vilifying America as an aggressor, Mr Obama has proposed holding talks about nuclear affairs, removing a precondition that Iran first abandon enrichment of uranium. Mr Obama made withdrawal of American forces from Iraq one of the main pledges of his election campaign and has since overseen a slightly quicker run down of troops than was envisaged by Mr Bush. Towards North Korea, too, Mr Obama has dangled the prospect of bilateral talks and closer engagement.

Regarding Russia Mr Obama has developed a policy of notably warmer ties, dubbed “hitting the reset button”. Relations had become especially frosty towards the end of Mr Bush’s presidency when war broke out between Georgia, an ally of America, and Russia. Since coming to office Mr Obama has also overseen talks aimed at reducing the nuclear arsenals of Russia and America, while speaking of his ultimate wish to “get to zero”—somehow ridding the world of all nuclear weapons. Most substantially (and to the dismay of the Polish and Czech governments), he has scrapped an earlier plan to deploy a missile-defence shield on land in eastern Europe, which had been seen as a provocation by Russia.

Yet Mr Obama’s main achievement is a change of tone in foreign policy. A speech given in Egypt in June was an eloquent call for a new understanding between America and Islam. It was designed both to assure Muslims, now thought to number 1.6 billion around the world, that America is not set on a crusade. Similarly it was intended to convey to any Americans (and others) who believe in the notion of a “clash of civilisations” that friendly ties between religions is eminently possible.

Similarly, American policy towards small and repressive regimes, ranging from Myanmar to Cuba, has shifted in mood, if not yet substance, by offering the prospect of engagement if governments demonstrate progress towards democracy. Some may also see Mr Obama’s push for more action to tackle climate change as a factor—he is urging Congress to pass a cap-and-trade bill and has said that his administration would decree new environmental rules if Congress fails to do so. (Al Gore, another Democratic figure, also won the Nobel prize, for his campaigns against climate change.)

Yet critics will have plenty to complain about. The prize-giving committee was at pains to emphasise Mr Obama’s “extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and co-operation between peoples”. In the citation, the committee argued that his “diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population.” But is the award premature? Although the prize may be given in the spirit of encouraging Mr Obama’s government, it might have been better to wait for more solid achievements. With so many good intentions, and so many initiatives scattered around the world (and an immensely busy domestic agenda, including health-care reform and averting economic collapse), Mr Obama appears to be racing around trying everything without yet achieving much.

One might point to Mr Obama’s lauded decision to close the military prison for terrorist suspects in Guantánamo Bay, and his explicit rejection of the use of torture by American spies and interrogators. Both are welcome, but for now Guantánamo Bay remains open. Carrying through on promises is proving far harder than making them. Similarly Mr Obama made progress in encouraging Israeli and Palestinian leaders to hold talks about peace earlier this year, but as he is distracted by other concerns both parties have since drifted away from negotiations. And so far North Korea, Iran, Cuba and Russia—among others—have offered nothing of substance to demonstrate that a policy of engagement will bring more results than Mr Bush’s tough line.

More troubling is Afghanistan. Although the Nobel committee has now rewarded Mr Obama with a title of peacemaker (plus $1.4m or so), he remains a war president. He must shortly decide whether to deploy an additional 40,000 soldiers to fight against Taliban and other insurgents in a conflict that has lasted for eight years. With no obvious means of ending that war, there is a serious possibility that Mr Obama's presidency will become dominated by worsening conditions there.

Mr Obama’s aspirations may be laudable, but he has several tough years ahead. The Nobel committee evidently wants to encourage him but it might have been wiser to hold judgment until he has achieved more. In America itself, the decision has already infuriated conservative commentators, ensuring there will be no peace on the home front, at least.

IMO, he deserves nothing just yet. Because none of his policies that has been initiated as been touted as a success yet.

Although one could take off their hat for his following policies,

1) War against terrorism (I don't whether if it should be here since he added another 130 000 more troops to Afghanistan).
2) Diplomatic relations with Iran, Myanmar and North Korea (Nuclear issues with Iran and North Korea and Democratic Reforms with Myanmar)
3) Pledge of global nuclear warhead reduction
4) Pledge of Green Energy

But unless these policies really work, he shouldn't be given the award at all. Ah but well, there are the other camp that say that Obama gotten the prize just by simply not becoming Bush Junior.

Well whatever it is, now that he has gotten the award. It is the time for him to act now!

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Maybe not so much the question "Did Obama deserve it?" but rather was there anyone better? The Nobel Peace Prize has always been controversial, I've never had 100% faith in the credibility of those chosen, because I think you could say someone else deserved it, or another person did the exact same thing without getting recognition.
 

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Oh come on, with all respect to him for what he put towards the world and making it a better and safier place to live, I would never give him a Nobel Prize. Not for the way he fights terrorism. Some people did it by the peaceful way i.e. Pope or Lech Walesa. While Obama's way of doing it is based on sheer violence.
 

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I saw quite a few of the nominations. And a few of them deserves the award more than Obama. =\

Take for example, Sen. Piedad Cordoba.

Note the CNN report below,

Quoted from CNN on 09 October 2009

Nobel contenders await peace prize decision

(CNN) -- A controversial Colombian senator who has obtained the release of 16 hostages held by Marxist guerrillas is the leading candidate to receive this year's Nobel Peace Prize, which will be announced Friday, said an independent research institute in Norway.

en. Piedad Cordoba is the most likely recipient among three leading contenders, said the Oslo-based International Peace Research Institute. The others the institute named are Jordanian Prince Ghazi bin Muhammad, a philosophy professor in Islamic faith at Jordan University, and Afghan physician and human rights activist Sima Samar.

Though the institute considers Cordoba the front-runner, no single candidate has emerged as the clear-cut favorite, as sometimes happens, said Kristian Berg Harpviken, director of the peace institute.

"It really is quite open this year," Harpviken said.

This year's peace prize nominees include 172 people and 33 organizations. The committee does not release the names of the nominees.

The 50-year-old peace institute, which is often called PRIO, has no connection with the Nobel committee that awards the peace prize.

Harpviken said he believes the prize will go to an individual or organization engaged in the resolution of a protracted armed conflict.

"This is a [Nobel] committee that will perhaps be more proactive and will award somebody involved in a standing process rather than rewarding someone for past accomplishments," he said.

Cordoba, 54, heads Colombians for Peace, a group trying to end to the 45-year-old war between the government and the guerrilla Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, known as the FARC.

Since 2007, she has obtained the release of 16 hostages held by the FARC and has gotten commitments from the rebels for the release of several more. Colombian officials have said the guerrillas are holding about 700 captives.

A government critic and longtime peace activist, Cordoba was kidnapped by a right-wing paramilitary group in 1999. She was released after several weeks and then fled to Canada with her family, where she stayed for 14 months before returning home. There have been at least two assassinations attempts against her.

"While it is the hostage releases that have brought Cordoba and her organization the most attention, her role as a principal proponent of peace negotiations and of long-term reconciliation is probably more important to her candidacy for the Nobel Peace Prize," PRIO said in a release.

Harpviken said he had received many complaints because of his prediction about Cordoba, whom critics accuse of being too close to the rebels. "I do realize that this created some debate in Colombia," he said. "That's not terribly surprising."

Cordoba was nominated by Argentinean human rights activist Adolfo Perez Esquivel, winner of the 1980 Nobel Peace Prize.

Harpviken said Muhammad, an Islamic scholar known for trying to bridge gaps with other faiths, also is a leading candidate. "Certainly, the purpose ... he stands for makes him very strong," Harpviken said.

A member of the Jordanian royal family and educated at Princeton and Cambridge universities, where he received a doctorate, Muhammad, 42, "is playing an increasingly central role as an advocate of interfaith dialogue," PRIO said.

In 2005, the prince brought together 170 Islamic scholars from 40 countries for the Amman Initiative to work out what they called a "theological counter-attack against terrorism."

Two years later, Muhammad and other prominent Islamic scholars wrote a letter called "A Common Word Between Us and You" that urged mutual understanding and peace with Christians.

The letter, PRIO said, was partly a response to Pope Benedict XVI's 2006 lecture that many saw as an attack on Islam. Backing his words with his deeds, Muhammad gave what was considered a broadly accommodating welcoming speech when the pope visited Jordan this year.

"The importance of Prince Ghazi's initiatives to date lies first and foremost in the way he engages Islamic theology, institutions and leaders in a debate on the relationship between Islam and other faiths, thereby contributing a wider platform for interreligious dialogue for Muslims in general," PRIO said. "A prize to Prince Ghazi would also be recognition of the long-standing efforts of the Jordanian royal family, including King Abdullah, who have been long-standing proponents of peace and reconciliation in the Middle East."

If Muhammad does not win, Harpviken said, it could be because his work is not done.

"He still has a way to go so that his ideas have an impact," Harpviken said.

The third PRIO front-runner is Samar, head of the Afghanistan Independent Human Rights Commission and the U.N. special envoy to Darfur in Africa.

A medical doctor, Samar also established the Shuhada Organization, which focuses on health care, particularly for Afghan women.

After obtaining her medical degree in 1982, Samar and her son fled to Pakistan in 1984 when the communist regime then ruling Afghanistan arrested her husband.

Samar, 52, remained in exile until 2002 when she was appointed as a women's affairs minister in Afghan President Hamid Karzai's transitional administration.

"She has been under frequent attacks both from conservative religious leaders and from Islamist radicals, and she is a prominent voice for the rights of women," PRIO said, adding that she "does invite respect by being a principled and outspoken proponent of human rights and the need for a true reconciliatory process."

According to other published reports, another possible pick is monk Thich Quang Do, head of the outlawed United Buddhist Church of Vietnam. He has been under house arrest since 2001 and has been in and out of jail since his first detention by communist authorities in 1977.

Quang Do, 80, was awarded the annual human rights prize by the Rafto Foundation of Norway in 2006.

Four recent Rafto winners have gone on to garner the Nobel Peace Prize: Aung San Suu Kyi of Myanmar (also known as Burma), Jose Ramos-Horta of East Timor, Kim Dae-jung of South Korea and Shirin Ebadi of Iran.

Azerbaijani journalist and human rights activist Malahat Nasibova was awarded the Rafto this year and also is considered a possible Nobel prize winner.

Chinese dissidents Hu Jia, Gao Zhisheng and Wei Jingsheng also are contenders, other observers said.

After months of house arrest, Hu, 36, was detained in December 2007 during a crackdown on dissidents and sentenced to 3 1/2 years in April 2008 for "inciting subversion of state power."

Hu started his activism focusing on HIV/AIDS in 2001 and co-founded a grassroots organization dedicated to helping children from AIDS families. The international human rights group Amnesty International said Hu's focus broadened and he began reporting on a wider human rights violations in China, even giving interviews to international journalists.

Amnesty said Hu has been repeatedly beaten and harassed by police for his outspokenness. Before being arrested, he had publicly expressed concerns over human rights abuses by police in Beijing.

Gao, who was born in 1966, is a self-taught lawyer and People's Liberation Army veteran who was a Nobel Peace Prize candidate last year. He disappeared in February after being taken away by Chinese police. Fellow activists say he is believed to still be alive.

In 2007, he wrote a letter to the U.S. Congress urging the United States to boycott the Olympic Games held in Beijing the following year. In it, he described a wide array of human rights violations by the Chinese government -- from lack of property and religious rights to environmental disasters to Tibet.

"I ask to you to seriously consider the true value of morality, justice, and humanity, as well as to what extent such values are undermined in China," he said.

Wei, 59, was first arrested in 1979 and sentenced to 15 years. He was released in 1993 but arrested again within six months and sentenced to 14 years. In 1997, Chinese authorities put him on a plane to the United States, where he has lived since.

Perhaps the best known of the Chinese dissidents, Wei has been awarded the Robert F. Kennedy Memorial Human Rights Award, the European Parliament's Sakharov Prize for Freedom of Thought, the National Endowment for Democracy Award and the Olof Palme Memorial Prize. He has been nominated seven times for the peace prize.

Harpviken said he doubts the Nobel committee will choose any Chinese or Russian dissidents this year because they "don't want to anger powerful governments."

"Although the committee takes pride in being independent," he said, "there are certain limitations on their being independent."

That does not mean he doesn't expect the committee to "take daring decisions."

Harpviken said he believes that "the most likely expression of the committee's courage this year will be to award the prize either to an unconventional kind of candidate or to somebody whose work is likely to be directly helped by a prize award."

The peace prize is one of five awarded annually since 1901 by the Nobel Foundation in Stockholm, Sweden. The other four prizes are for physiology or medicine, physics, chemistry and literature. Starting in 1969, the Sveriges Riksbank Prize in Economic Sciences in Memory of Alfred Nobel also has been awarded.

While the other prizes are awarded by committees based in Sweden, the peace prize is determined by a five-member panel appointed by the Norwegian parliament.

The Nobel recipient receives a prize of 10 million Swedish crowns, or about $1.4 million.

At least she did something and got results! o.0; I think you all know who Mahatma Gandhi is. He is the founder of modern India. He starved in a bid of peaceful demonstration against the English colonial power and won independence for his nation. It is only after ten over years that he managed to get that award.

Now compared that feat against Obama's. 0.o;
 

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I think Bill Maher said it best:

"The Nobel committee said he won for creating a new climate for international politics. which sounds so much nicer than 'In your face George Bush you cowboy a**hole.'"

But in all seriousness, I think the prize was also awarded as a sort of message to America: "Hey, I think you guys elected the right guy, now help him earn that Peace Prize". There is no denying that Obama has potentially the greatest power to promote Peace in the world (by virtue of being the President of the U.S. of A). Not wanting to start comparing human life but, sixteen people VS all those that could possibly be killed by America, there really is no comparison (let's not forget that other than Iraq and Afghanistan, there is also the developing conflict in Pakistan, the ongoing Palestine/Israel conflict, and now Iran's Enrichment Plant in Qom). Perhaps the Nobel people wanted to try and pressure him with the prize.

As Professor Cornel West said: “It does put pressure on my dear brother [because] it's going to be hard to have a peace prize and be a war president,”

Regardless of how you feel about it, Americans should be proud that not only an American, but their president has been awarded a Nobel Peace prize, I know I would.
 

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They mostly gave it to him for what it represents, not for what he did.

In the end, is the choice that benefits the world the most. It just shows you that indeed the committee is a special, wise group of people. They figured the prize would make more peace itself than what the winner has done up until now.
 

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I was waiting for this topic.

No he doesnt deserve it. Normally, people who earn these have some profound change they bring. Obama hasnt done a thing yet.

Its a political move and only because America, under Obama, is singing to Europe/Norway's tune.

The award is worthless now.
 

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While I am an Obama supporter I felt he was prematurely awarded. He has good intentions: comprehensive environmental laws are being enacted for the first time with more coming, reversing U.S. unilateralism, partial withdrawal from Iraq, warming relations with Iran and North Korea. But as many of you have said, none of his initiatives have had time to work. This seemed a political move. Maybe with time it will look deserved but right now we're considering sending 40,000 more troops to Afghanistan. I'm not sure it's time to put peace and America in the same sentence yet. Even if is his predecessors war.
 

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I agree that the award was given for what it represents and the impact it'll have more so than for the actions of Obama himself.
I mean, he has a plan to do things and he'll potentially do good things for peace in the future, but for now, he hasn't actually done anything noteworthy yet. It's all still in the process of happening.

So I suppose I'll say no, he doesn't deserve the award/ Will he live up to it in the future? Perhaps, but as it stands, they gave him an award with little to nothing backing him up in terms of actual actions.
 

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No, Obama is not worthy of the prize. Being the first colored president of America does not make one worthy of such honor. Obama has not done good yet, made any changes to improve lives yet, had success yet. When he does, then he deserves being nominated. This whole thing will blow up in their face if Obama's reign ends up being one of the worst in the history of America.
Earn it before you get it.
 

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I'll keep it short: Hell no!

Now with a bit more words. Obama hasn't done shit yet to win that prize. He only moved his lip most of the times taking almost no action and wait.. isn't America still involved in a meaningless war.. Hmm.. Guess they didn't thought of that while handing the cheap thing out. At the moment he doesn't deserve it, hell, he shouldn't even glaze at the damn thing.

I could yap all day n night about bringing peace to our world.. would they give me the prize? Hell no, I don't see why a president should be different then. Take some actions before you accept the damn thing. And with actions I don't mean moving your lips
 

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It makes difference for him because he's the current President of the US. Does he deserve it? No. Will the prize benefit the world? Hell yes.

It demonstrates that the newest President of the major potence of the world is not a dick who starts a meaningless war.

As I said before, the committee thought about the good consequences of giving him the prize. And don't come and say he hasn't done a thing, do some research. It's not 100% worth of a Nobel Prize but he's getting closer, little by little.

Don't give it to him twice though.
 

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It demonstrates that the newest President of the major potence of the world is not a dick who starts a meaningless war.
He isn't doing much to end it either...

But he is shifting his attention to Afghanistan where the real threat lies, at least. But even then, war is horrible.
 

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There's a very good chance Congress won't approve more troops. He hasn't asked yet. The Democrats are opposed to the war. And the progressives are pissed at Obama right now.
 

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There's a very good chance Congress won't approve more troops. He hasn't asked yet. The Democrats are opposed to the war. And the progressives are pissed at Obama right now.
Well I guess theyll rightfully get the blame by allowing this to turn into another Vietnam.
 

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IMO, no, he does not deserve it. What has he done? Nothing.
Last time I checked, you had to earn the Novel Peace prize. His "efforts" have yet to bear fruit.
 

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I have to agree with you here. Even though I have strong hopes that Obama will do something very good, maybe even worthy of this prize, he still hasn't done it yet and doesn't deserve to get it. What if his plans fail? then he got it for failing to do something great.

Maybe if he could finally just push this stupid bill through instead of changing it every 5 days, we could see some progress in this department. Just sitting around and not passing this bill because not everyone agrees on it is stupid. There has never been anything that everyone agreed on. It will piss people off for a while, but down the road people will understand it was for the best, then Obama can say he earned that Peace Prize.
 

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Eh, about the bill, even getting the bill this far is quite the feat; many presidents before have tried, and failed. It seems as though Obama's light touch as it pertains to the bill is letting it stay alive, whereas if he tried to force it through...

But with that said, I completely agree.

Obama hasn't earned the Nobel Peace Prize, because he hasn't got any accomplishments behind him. By awarding him with this honor, the Norwegian committee cheapens the value of the Prize. "Dalai Lama, Nelson Mandela, etc. etc. etc.... yeah, your accomplishments are now put on par with those of a man who's only had high hopes placed on him."
 

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Dont bring the bill into this. Thats domestic, Washington D.C. political power play, not Nobel Prize worthy/related action/activities.
 

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Like many other people, I feel that Obama does not deserve the prize. Add insult to injury is that there were over 200 other nominations for this category. Even if I have no idea who they are, I still feel that they must have contributed a lot more than Obama did.
 
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