Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

 

[VON]

Best stories are usually the ones where you can relate to characters. Characters that are down to earth and have troubles relatable to human nature.

usually means the best written stories aren’t the ones where a character can bust planets with a finger.

SIUs quality of writing wasn’t the fault of lowering the verses scaling. The story could still have been shit even if he kept his reality warping axis the same, and the blog posts as well. He had drafts, but the execution is what matters.

he just sucks more now at writing. It happens. Sadly it’s something we have to come to terms with without blaming his earlier drafts.

not a golden rule across all stories.

The most attractive quality to ToG has been its immense scale of the verse that the author demonstrated in written blogs. The grandness of the multiverse he set up in his mind was its strongest point.

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I think the main big issue of this spin off was pacing and character focus. Rather than introducing irrelevant characters like most regulars , SIU should have focused more on urek , baek , shining ones , FHs etc.

I think the admin could have give urek a very special test passing which he will become a ranker. Doing this SIU wouldn't need focus on urek's climb and interactions with regulars and we could have directly skipped to his interactions with FHs and zahard.

I really wished the regulars cast from Urek's time was some high rankers we are already introduced to in the main story. It would have made the spin off more successful. Considering he changed the whole settings and timeline already...

 

[Epic_Rider]

The most attractive quality to ToG has been its immense scale of the verse that the author demonstrated in written blogs. The grandness of the multiverse he set up in his mind was its strongest point.

The immense scale of ToG is demonstrated through the more than 600 chapters it has, not some deleted blogposts.

I really wished the regulars cast from Urek's time was some high rankers we are already introduced to in the main story. It would have made the spin off more successful. Considering he changed the whole settings and timeline already...

We already got Maschenny, Asensio (even though they're not Regulars) and Garam. Barely anyone ever becomes Rankers. Just Garam alone is already a lot.

 

[white_light]

Man went from making 2 day slow cook pork broth to Top Ramen
jkk xdde let the man cook

Hey man, tuned up instant ramen was integral to me surviving uni, I won't stand for ramen slander : o

 

[VON]

The immense scale of ToG is demonstrated through the more than 600 chapters it has, not some deleted blogposts.



We already got Maschenny, Asensio (even though they're not Regulars) and Garam. Barely anyone ever becomes Rankers. Just Garam alone is already a lot.

the tower was big but there was genuinely more to the verse from the blogs. you missed out.

 

[Demonspeed]

the tower was big but there was genuinely more to the verse from the blogs. you missed out.

How so? If you are talking about all the stories from TUS I agree but the blogs are pretty much only related to ToG? Phanta is mentioned as Top 5 Axis, that's the only opening to a wider world.

 

[VON]

How so? If you are talking about all the stories from TUS I agree but the blogs are pretty much only related to ToG? Phanta is mentioned as Top 5 Axis, that's the only opening to a wider world.

I was talking about the TUS and the multitude of axises out in the universe.

 

[Demonspeed]

I was talking about the TUS and the multitude of axises out in the universe.

But nothing about the spin-off denies the existence of multiple Axes. In fact, Phanta is trying to stop the birth of a new one and the fact that his alias is King of Jewels is pretty telling. It clearly means that he is among the strongest Axes even now since he is a king. His title wasn't known before.

 

[The Knight of War]

Could someone please explain Baek Ryun's powers and abilities to me? I haven't finished the manhwa yet and currently don't have the time to catch up. Also, I don't mind spoilers—in fact, I enjoy them.

 

[Strange]

But nothing about the spin-off denies the existence of multiple Axes. In fact, Phanta is trying to stop the birth of a new one and the fact that his alias is King of Jewels is pretty telling. It clearly means that he is among the strongest Axes even now since he is a king. His title wasn't known before.

But it also doesn't prove that there are many and its the opposite what aubrion have said it means there aren't many axisers at all if there were what's there to have one more ? if there are ten trillion who cares if there is 1 trillion + 1 ? but penta cares unless he is braindead he shall not care about some stupid dumb tower at all which isn't the case surely

Axisers aren't all over the place surely like i have said Unless pentaminum is braindead

 

[Sky is blue]

But nothing about the spin-off denies the existence of multiple Axes. In fact, Phanta is trying to stop the birth of a new one and the fact that his alias is King of Jewels is pretty telling. It clearly means that he is among the strongest Axes even now since he is a king. His title wasn't known before.

Obrion's statement "Some immense bieng, just like you and Lord phantanium......You know that too right we can't let happen"

It highly implies that only 2 of them exists as an axis, it also wouldn't make sense for phanta to try to stop one from being born if multiple axis already exists. In tus axis were pretty common.

And even if we assume that this axis being born from the tower is strong enough to be a threat to him, it was stated that phanta is strong enough to destroy tower with a single thought but here he needs SO's help to deal with it.

Urek who should be an comparable existence to phantanium is bound by the power of tower so there's that.
In fact urek as an axis hasn't shown or implied to have reality warping powers something we know is an axis ability

We should completely ignore entirely of the TUS and BP or anything said out side of main story imo

 

[Strange]

But nothing about the spin-off denies the existence of multiple Axes. In fact, Phanta is trying to stop the birth of a new one and the fact that his alias is King of Jewels is pretty telling. It clearly means that he is among the strongest Axes even now since he is a king. His title wasn't known before.

Strongest amongst the ? or more likely he isn't amongst them he is THE STRONGEST ... there is big difference if there were someone stronger than him on the outside he'd not visit tower surely and since he visited he doesn't want new axiser to be born at all

Like i've been saying "Outside god is indeed pentaminum" ... its implied many times that he is that god , but we shall see

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Strongest amongst the ? or more likely he isn't amongst them he is THE STRONGEST ... there is big difference if there were someone stronger than him on the outside he'd not visit tower surely and since he visited he doesn't want new axiser to be born at all

Not because it'd be a threat to him and all that but simply he doesn't want and if he really wanted to kill that new so called axiser he'd be in the tower and whosoever enters in the tower he'd directly kill him easily but he never did such thing at all , he could kil guardians one by one and tower would stagnate and all that he could do all kinds of things but he never did at all . but who knows maybe he is waiting above 134th (but who knows)

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But here we are talking about spin off and waiting for the season 4 to start ... but eeh siu is just big disappointment and like ppl love to kiss his one place i'd not do such thing what it is it is ... is going almost two decades and we are here in the middle where we know nothing about a thing LoL still mystery

yet ppl still kissing his ### LoL

 

[Demonspeed]

But it also doesn't prove that there are many and its the opposite what aubrion have said it means there aren't many axisers at all if there were what's there to have one more ? if there are ten trillion who cares if there is 1 trillion + 1 ? but penta cares unless he is braindead he shall not care about some stupid dumb tower at all which isn't the case surely

Axisers aren't all over the place surely like i have said Unless pentaminum is braindead

Who cares about Axes who aren't Kings? Did anyone really expect all of them to be relevant? It would be something beyond ToG anyway. Conqueror King, Artificial Creation, National Salvation, Phanta, they are the one who really matters. I don't even see most people mention these guys. It's almost always the Conqueror King that's brought up.

Obrion's statement "Some immense bieng, just like you and Lord phantanium......You know that too right we can't let happen"

It highly implies that only 2 of them exists as an axis, it also wouldn't make sense for phanta to try to stop one from being born if multiple axis already exists. In tus axis were pretty common.

And even if we assume that this axis being born from the tower is strong enough to be a threat to him, it was stated that phanta is strong enough to destroy tower with a single thought but here he needs SO's help to deal with it.

Urek who should be an comparable existence to phantanium is bound by the power of tower so there's that.
In fact urek as an axis hasn't shown or implied to have reality warping powers something we know is an axis ability

We should completely ignore entirely of the TUS and BP or anything said out side of main story imo

I believe an Axis created the Tower(King of Artificial Creation) but disregarding that I don't see how that implies that only two exist. He mentioned Urek and Phanta to make him understand. Yes, what you said is possible but that's unlikely in this vast world. Phanta wants to stop the birth of another rival.

It's impossible to ignore the blog posts and SIU himself teased readers with these reveals. Whatever powers Axes have, they are clearly the top dogs and Urek is far from being at full power anyway.

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Strongest amongst the ? or more likely he isn't amongst them he is THE STRONGEST ... there is big difference if there were someone stronger than him on the outside he'd not visit tower surely and since he visited he doesn't want new axiser to be born at all

Like i've been saying "Outside god is indeed pentaminum" ... its implied many times that he is that god , but we shall see

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Not because it'd be a threat to him and all that but simply he doesn't want and if he really wanted to kill that new so called axiser he'd be in the tower and whosoever enters in the tower he'd directly kill him easily but he never did such thing at all , he could kil guardians one by one and tower would stagnate and all that he could do all kinds of things but he never did at all . but who knows maybe he is waiting above 134th (but who knows)

Well, in the blog posts he said he was Top 5, Top 5 means he could be Top 1. Phanta left his subordinates in the Tower and I doubt he is twiddling his thumbs outside. He is most likely challenging other Axis outside with the other Shinies he kept.

 

[RED TOWER]

Axises are not gods, and an Axis cannot create a Tower.

The Gods, on the other hand, are capable of creating Towers and even creating Axis users themselves, such as the Primordial Light, who created Mazino, and the Primordial Darkness, who created Phantaminum.

Headon has been referred to many times as a True God, yet he has never once been stated to be an Axis.

Even at his full power, Urek Mazino can only fight through brute force—punching and striking. He has never shown any abilities that would allow him to create a Tower or anything similar.

 

[VON]

But nothing about the spin-off denies the existence of multiple Axes. In fact, Phanta is trying to stop the birth of a new one and the fact that his alias is King of Jewels is pretty telling. It clearly means that he is among the strongest Axes even now since he is a king. His title wasn't known before.

You yourself believe in one universe.

 

[Demonspeed]

Axises are not gods, and an Axis cannot create a Tower.

Source for this?

The Gods, on the other hand, are capable of creating Towers and even creating Axis users themselves, such as the Primordial Light, who created Mazino, and the Primordial Darkness, who created Phantaminum.

These beings who aren't able to do anything other than creating? Phanta disobeyed Darkness and he is fine.

Headon has been referred to many times as a True God, yet he has never once been stated to be an Axis.

All Admins are called gods in the Tower and one of them got killed by Enryu, who is not an Axis.

Even at his full power, Urek Mazino can only fight through brute force—punching and striking. He has never shown any abilities that would allow him to create a Tower or anything similar.

And how can you know this when you have never seen his full power?

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You yourself believe in one universe.

I do, but many of them can exist in one and I never expected or wanted to see millions of Axes. At least not in Tower of God.

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Multiverses weren't mentioned in TUS AFAIR.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

Even at his full power, Urek Mazino can only fight through brute force—punching and striking.

"But I don't need to do all that".

We've got the guy himself confirming he's capable of the cute haxy stuff but fighting like a brute because nobody's strong enough to force him otherwise.

We've got the guy displaying blatant existence erasure verbatim not even long ago because an immortal cockroach wouldn't just die.

We've got the guy hacking into other people's abilities and using it against themselves.

Bruv, your premise literally falls apart from the get-go.

Are you serious?

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Axises are not gods, and an Axis cannot create a Tower.

The Gods, on the other hand, are capable of creating Towers and even creating Axis users themselves, such as the Primordial Light, who created Mazino, and the Primordial Darkness, who created Phantaminum.

Headon has been referred to many times as a True God, yet he has never once been stated to be an Axis.

Even at his full power, Urek Mazino can only fight through brute force—punching and striking. He has never shown any abilities that would allow him to create a Tower or anything similar.

Axis> Gods though. Darkness couldn't do anything against phanta once he revolt for example.

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Aubrion doesn't know existence of other worlds. There are most likely multiple axises if I had to make a guess. Won't be surprised if zahard's world itself had one.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

The Gods, on the other hand, are capable of creating Towers and even creating Axis users themselves, such as the Primordial Light, who created Mazino, and the Primordial Darkness, who created Phantaminum.

Literally implied heavy to be done by the Universe verbatim in this Spin-off, AKA the World is responsible for creating the Tower and trying to create a new Axis to solve a new problem.

There's a whole heaven full of gods and their angels and they don't mean shit to an Axis.

Primordials are not gods either, they're eternal constants and have always been there and they started creation too.

 

[RED TOWER]

By the same logic some people here use, Gustang rebelled against Zahard and is still doing fine. Does that mean Gustang is stronger than Zahard?

 

[Ray Barracuda]

By the same logic some people here use, Gustang rebelled against Zahard and is still doing fine. Does that mean Gustang is stronger than Zahard?

Did Zahard create Gustang and grant him all that power?

The Darkness very obviously went overboard when it was creating Phantaminum and now it can't just stop him, lord knows how long it took just to create Phantaminum in the first place in the beginning.

Same thing with Urek too taking so long just to be created by the Light even though everything else including concepts were birthed easily.

You even have the Tower which can't just nurture or make an Axis in one go, there's a lot of shenanigans and sacrifices and eating necessary just for another one to be born into the world.


The fact you think such immense beings are easy to come by is funny because once again, there's an entire heaven of gods and Angels.