Games Mafia Game 142 - McHelpers - Game End

[Natasha]

Admittely, I'm still stuck in Nash with how open they were Day 1 with there claim & there voting towards the end - as well as Teubier's strangely early vote & soft push in Gry.

What about the fact I didnt want to lynch Kako, and I didn't want to just give up and die made my vote suspect. Had I more than literally 3 minutes to check and vote at end of day maybe I would've done something that makes me less sus or smthing??? Like what? Who would I have voted there that would make me town in your eyes?

You ignored post #302 where I pointed out you are basing your sus on me from observations that are literally wrong. You're saying I'm doing things I haven't.

You've just decided I'm scum and are pushing it lol

 

[SirSamuel016]

Hello, I just got here today. A little low activity warning for this phase; the timing is a bit unlucky for me (I just got out of a long shift, have to work again super early in the morning till the end of the phase).
I'll catch up and try to be active rn, and during break/before work tomorrow - I'm quite honestly not feeling very well so I'm not sure how that goes. Tomorrow morning should be better I think (I hope?)

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I'm still reading, but Sam & Erin, can I just ask you to try not to tunnel on each other please If needed just ignore the other for a bit and take some time to cool off and think about other people

I hope you feel better soon btw McWetLeg

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Regarding Sam, I think he's just town-Sam last minute jumping on some of his favorite lynch targets. He tends to do that as town, I've been a victim of this too many times, but perhaps he's upgraded his mafia play.

Now with you I know it was a habit because you addressed it with me outside the games Has it unintentionally reached that point with Erin???

 

[GrySun]

Sam what do we do, we got some uncooperative townies

Guess I'll try to find some time and summarize player behavior so far

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I'm kinda surprised how many anti-Nash statements I saw D2. I thought if Nash is town mafia would jump at the chance to frame/lynch her D2, but its been more anti-Nashers than just 4.

 

[Natasha]

Sam what do we do, we got some uncooperative townies

Hope I'm not in the list of uncooperative

 

[GrySun]

And if Nash was mafia surely she'd be in a much more comfy/trusted position. Idk if flawed thinking but thats my current take on her

 

[SirSamuel016]

Really not liking Nash so far. There’s never really been any sort of consideration where someone isn’t killed for being new. A lynch maybe but even that isn’t really a think. Target choice and reason also don’t really follow through. There are bonus points for not lynching Kako tho…

I feel like I'm on the opposite side of the fence with Nash. Day 1 claim aside, I don't think her play is bad by any means. Seems like she's suspected by a few atm though

Regarding new players, I do think some people are prone to going easier on newbies at the start of the game for what its worth

 

[GrySun]

Hope I'm not in the list of uncooperative

No, but adding to confusion I suppose

Can you give me your thoughts on like everyone? No need to rush it, I will try and make a slightly bigger post summarizing stuff as well

Ideally we lynch a mafia today so I can finally eat an Oreo McFlurry but hard to see the forest(mafia) from the trees(confusing townies).

 

[Natasha]

And if Nash was mafia surely she'd be in a much more comfy/trusted position. Idk if flawed thinking but thats my current take on her

I think it's flawed but your gut feeling on mafia exploiting my weak opening is likely true. I would expect it too and am sorting through which ones of them are lost town. AP isn't answering me though.

 

[GrySun]

I feel like I'm on the opposite side of the fence with Nash. Day 1 claim aside, I don't think her play is bad by any means. Seems like she's suspected by a few atm though

Regarding new players, I do think some people are prone to going easier on newbies at the start of the game for what its worth

My biggest by far gripe with Nash is targeting Style N1. Style by all accounts should've been super dead N1 so that's a risk a townie Hider that could die by hiding behind mafia's kill target would not take. Newbie or not, Doc claim makes him extremely vulnerable with unlikely anything to protect him(other than another Doctor(not impossible if one is quack the other sane). Which may or may not have happened who knows).

But am otherwise unbothered by the attempt at more open handed gameplay. But not feeling that fear of dying to mafia, if yknow what I mean.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Sam what do we do, we got some uncooperative townies

Well firstly I'll get out of bed and grab some breakfast. Then I think we can collect our thoughts a bit and look at who has done what, what looks off/unnatural and then work it out from there.

I'm kinda surprised how many anti-Nash statements I saw D2. I thought if Nash is town mafia would jump at the chance to frame/lynch her D2, but its been more anti-Nashers than just 4.

Yeah it does feel like a bit of haterade has been sipped. I think the criticism of the targeting is fine but some arguments like Pige's look weaker/potentially bad faith at points (like where Nash said he was inventing stuff)

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Ideally we lynch a mafia today so I can finally eat an Oreo McFlurry but hard to see the forest(mafia) from the trees(confusing townies).

I used to be a whore for a caramel sundae; maybe I'll get one of those if we lynch a red.

 

[Natasha]

But am otherwise unbothered by the attempt at more open handed gameplay. But not feeling that fear of dying to mafia, if yknow what I mean.

I was pretty confident Sty wouldn't die. People don't seem to agree. I guess I shoulda hid behind tubbs, yeah.

Working on sharing my reads.

 

[SirSamuel016]

Also there's no way Dictator Mbappe got dicked down by Yamal and the @Lambu team wtf

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I was pretty confident Sty wouldn't die. People don't seem to agree. I guess I shoulda hid behind tubbs, yeah.

You think Teubs was a better choice in hindsight?

 

[Natasha]

@NashSilver what do you think of sam ?

what are the most suspicious for you and based on what ?

He chose not to kill me end of day 1, I'd think a mafia Sam would probably take me out there. He seems like usual town self in his general presence and was one of my early trusted Day 1.

Most suspicious for me atm are AP for misconstruing what I've said and not responding to me calling him out on it. He's either stubborn or mafia.

Next is James for just swining straight at me out the gate today it feels like mafia lynch queing me based on Day 1 sentiment.

Lawl is somewhat distant from the game other than occasionally commenting on me, but he's not really opportunising on much so if there's lost town hanging around it's probably him.

Ironically I targeted you last night too. Was there a reason you picked me? Also is there a reason you believe your quack? You’ve had the same stance more or less since the game started

If both I and Stylether croak tonight lynch Holt as the poisoner btw.

I’ll pull a Juvii and votekill Nash. Based on the claim and the reason for doing so, feels like a good bet

So you fundamentally don't believe anything I'm saying is in good faith huh. Alright.

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You think Teubs was a better choice in hindsight?

Yeah, tubbs always makes it to endgame and I'm decently sure he's town based on his social.

List people I was decently sure weren't mafia by end of Day 1:
Sty
Tubbs
Sam
Gry

And I wasn't gonna hide behind you or Gry, I'm not that bad at hider lol.

 

[GrySun]

Something with him doesn’t feel right to me, and I know feelings aren’t the strongest basis for votes. But it’s stronger than the vague thoughts I’m having regarding other players

What were the vague thoughts towards others? As the feeling didn't work out, maybe the thoughts do better.

 

[Brandish μ]

It also took until brand saying "stop hiding now you'll just screw town" to realise yeah I've missplayed and neutered my own role.

Yes bad hider

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If both I and Stylether croak tonight lynch Holt as the poisoner btw.

It'd be nice and easy if it happens this way but I'll probably be doing that lol

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I think SunGry had a comment about questioning Kako and then abandoning him, lmao, yes it is funny. He seemed cool about it and also in the way of 'you guys are dumb choosing me'.

 

[GrySun]

the big post is taking a while to make, and I wonder if I'll be the lynch today. May be unavailable(busy not sleeping) in last hours but will try.

Yes bad hider

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It'd be nice and easy if it happens this way but I'll probably be doing that lol

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I think SunGry had a comment about questioning Kako and then abandoning him, lmao, yes it is funny. He seemed cool about it and also in the way of 'you guys are dumb choosing me'.

Oh yes I wanted more your input on that. Iirc you asked him "who do we lynch instead", he gave you some options and.. that was that. Why ask the question if his answer won't change your mind?

 

[SirSamuel016]

2x Gry - Teub #228, DD #307

can you two explain this one again for me please? @Teubier @digitaldude

1x Sam - Eri #259

TAB odds tell me that I can expect a votelock later in the phase

Yeah, tubbs always makes it to endgame and I'm decently sure he's town based on his social.

List people I was decently sure weren't mafia by end of Day 1:
Sty
Tubbs
Sam
Gry

And I wasn't gonna hide behind you or Gry, I'm not that bad at hider lol.

I really don't think I'm in the same tier as Gry when it comes to mafia wanting players out early. More than likely I'd be at the bottom end of that spectrum in general, especiallly given my past feats

Going back to your action, it was purely off of believing Sty to be town yeah? How concerned were you with him potentially being a target for a nightkill?

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the big post is taking a while to make, and I wonder if I'll be the lynch today. May be unavailable(busy not sleeping) in last hours but will try.

I'd repeat the Erin push if that happens

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Please don't take that joke the wrong way Erin

 

[Holt]

So you fundamentally don't believe anything I'm saying is in good faith huh. Alright.

Yeah I don’t. Over the past couple games I’ve observed your gameplay a bit. Besides the claim point I mentioned already, the hider reveal + choice so far are poor. There’s no way you believed hiding behind style who hinted doc was a good decision because he’s a newbie who wouldn’t be killed. Even revealing hider D1 has no Strat benefit besides maybe getting ahead of a counter claim

 

[Natasha]

Stylether - Unless counterclaimed, he's town.

Tubbs - Dropping hints quickly, and then again on request. Tunnelling someone for a day or two. Basically perfectly in line with town Tubbs play.
Sam - Didn't murderise me Day 1 and is actually reading my posts so I might be biased. His vote movement day 1 makes little sense for mafia since he was safe from kako bomb and moving there only stirred shit in his face.
Gry - Turned bad hint into good hint on request Day 1 and is pushing to organise town now but without pushing them onto a specific target so inherently ruling out agenda.

Bran - I feel like I misbehaved and he told me off ngl. I don't see why an evil would point out I should stop hiding cause I might give maf a double kill. I feel pretty stupid but I was probably gonna hide tonight until he put it bluntly.

Marms - I like her presence, one of the slots that is suffering from my lack of time to backread. If Erin is town then trying to pre-emptively make peace with them seems town coded.

DD - I thinks I knows what he's claiming so he's staying out of the red zone even though his content is kinda lacking.

Lawl - Leaning more lost townie than evil because of lack of agenda but cutting that slack is risky and I hope he gets a grasp of the game I can judge him by.

Erin - Pushing one of my more trusted slots in the game and being pretty open to yeeting us both. I think the narrative of me or Sam being suspicious for our day 1 voting is likely only coming from mafia. It's not damning by itself though so I'll keep an open mind.

James - Opportunising on my weak position basically immediately after coming into the thread feels very icky.

AP - Is actively misrepresenting my takes and not responding to me pointing it out. Part of the wagon that pushed me up in the first place.

Holt - Call me crazy but visiting Stylether and then anglin towards me today could be a poisoner realising they fucked up, poisoned us both, and is now covering his tracks before we flip.

 

[GrySun]

AP - Is actively misrepresenting my takes and not responding to me pointing it out. Part of the wagon that pushed me up in the first place.

Holt - Call me crazy but visiting Stylether and then anglin towards me today could be a poisoner realising they fucked up, poisoned us both, and is now covering his tracks before we flip.

Nah these 2 should be green imo