Man, every game everyone wanna lynch me. Thing never change. Might as well reveal:
My two traits are Naturally Obedient and Don't Starve. My plan was to act as if I got two active traits, one "strong/good" one "meh/whatever" to make Mafia either try to kill me or waste a trait destroying action on me N1.
I still believe Gry or one of the other more than 2 traits holders is Mafia/TP. It makes sense to give the ones who are outnumbered more traits to start with, especially if tarot cards have strong effects since town will likely get a lot of tarot card effects early game due the number advantage. Mafia/TP simply cannot cover that many cards. Tbf I don't know how many cards there gonna be but it surely will be more than 4 or 5.
Anyway, that's all from me to this so called "Grames" situation.
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So from where I stand I don't believe James' claim at all and I will probably lock him. Only other I could consider instead is maybe DD among the 2-votes.
I don't think I'll get very far with my deductions if I'm only worrying about what people have trait-wise so I'm not going to lean too heavily on that in making calls on my vote today, but there are a few things I'd like to just write here as I work through my thoughts so here we go:
Firstly, just on the trait comp, while a couple of the outlier comps worry me (Jinx with 4 passives, AP with 5 passives, and Nash with 3), it wouldn't surprise me if there are scum amongst the 2-trait people (who are myself, wojak, James, AAAAAAman, arrow, Marm, semendemon, shinose, and josh). Traits alone won't tell us much but I think its worth noting that Wojak's hint is a bit subjective in comparison to others while Juviii arriving late to claim 1a1p has the potential to be her mirroring what she might have observed to be a trend.
Now, to follow up, general things of note from this dayphase so far are:
1. Grames (Gry v James).
Kicked off with Gry giving James a 2nd vote (1st was a nothingburger first post vote from dd), James got on the defensive immediately. Or should I say offensive? He certainly kicked off with Gry and made a post that started off reading okay only to get sloppier as it went on. This did make me think a bit poorer of James because of how poorly it was written, but defending himself solely through criticism of Gry rather than asking for specifics on Gry's qualms with him, or offering further explanation tells me that he got flustered because he was top voted at that stage. Is James potentially non-town? Yes. Is this enough to lynch him for? No, even if it is day 1.
Conclusion: Gry reads better than James in his initial post and then follow-up to James' post. I think this is probably a case of one townie voting for another townie who then proceeded to shit himself out of shock.
2. Nani the fork (Jinx)
Next up on my list of talking points is the returning Jinx. If there was a mafia game dictionary then she'd be in the definition for things like "chaos agent", "unpredictable", and a variety of other things. In a way, this is the same Jinx of old that is back amongst us. In a way that's reassuring, but in a way it also spikes my anxiety because she's capable of anything so I am naturally concerned especially when she's super chirpy because that can usually spell trouble. She's discussed things a bit which has been all well and good, but some of her interactions are where I feel like she's insincere. Case in point, the newbie glaze. A lot of that was unwarranted imo and just looked like her trying to butter people up, or curry favour if you will. New players are going to be more impressionable so it might be deliberate. The other thing to note is her not voting yet. This isn't a red flag in of itself, but when she ties it to waiting on others which she has done, it reads to me like she'd rather follow and then pin the blame if a lynch goes wrong. Also concerning is her talking about why considering other people (or spreading the vote as she put it) when there are multiple top-voted; to me, it feels like a narrow way of thinking when we should be discussing our options to determine the best choice.
3. The newbies (Arrow and dego)
I'm a bit mixed on these two so far. Arrow can't count to 2 but their engagement has been good in discussing things and talking earnestly, while dego seems to be trying to not step on any toes and not do too much so they don't stick out. I think Arrow is fine right now, but dego not so much, and new or not I wouldn't be against voting for them if it came down to it because there's not a lot there that reads as strong or as convincing as I'd like. Could be first time jitters but they might be scum and thus extra jittery. So I'll be watching them.
4. Other points of interest
- Semondemon is claiming they are support oriented which I don't mind at all. It's clear that they've got direction and of the trait talk I think its one of the better bits of detail that has been shared as it isn't as subjective as others.
- Marm reads well so far which is a change. Might mean she's red because I usually misread Marm, but I'll let that one ride for now because there's other things that are more concerning. Erin isn't playing this game so I lack a push target if I ever want to push someone for shits and giggles, but I'd rather not revert to Marm because shelving a whole chocolate orange when she's as tall as that Mexican micro wrestler KeMonito is impressive work. "That's an incredible feat" - @Brandish μ, probably.
- Shino feels a bit of a non-factor even though she's been here and talking which is a bit odd. I'd think she might make a bit more of a colourful impression either way but she's very... beige.
- AP hasn't done much. The trait claim is way different than anything else which sets him apart- maybe a good thing? What I don't like is how easily he trusted James, or dickrode Nash's vote on Wojak which in itself felt like it was based on very little at all.
- Wojak is okay to me; I'd like him to be a bit clearer about his traits because the way he's valuing them in his talk is rather subjective so something a bit more substantial would be good.
- Nash is Nash. I read Nash as town atm but they certainly can go either way. It might be a coincidence but her avi is the only one to have others in the back which makes me wonder if that's connected to her traits at all. If I'm seeing things then I need an eye test.
- Not much to say about Josh (Juviii). Some of the talk is okay but she's also just treading water imo. She didn't answer the chocolate question either so that's -10000 social credit.
- dd is here but not doing much. All I can say is that's dd regardless of alignment.
With all of that said, before I go to a vote, let's do a trust totem...
Leaning town: Marm the chocolate orange shelver Gry the kitkat chunky shelver Arrow the man who can't count to 2 demon of the semen, probably plays support in overwatch but lets his teammates die
Mid (idk): Nash dd
Wojak
AP
Josh
Shinose James
Leaning scum: dego
Jinx
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Fuck that took a while with interruptions
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Because I'm thinking things through instead of just going WAHAHEY THIS CUNT IS TOP A THA VOTES, LETS GIV 'IM ANOTHA ONE THEN
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You talk too much And you could say the info again for clarity's sake
About Cres, I think her claiming that 1 of her passive trait disappears in N2 and Juvii claimed something similar
This makes me a bit less sus of her.
And Woj has said enough for D1. He already said 1 active and 1 passive and stated what the active is like the obedient boi he is. What more do you expect?
She was third on my to vote for list I’m still okay with either James or Shino dying, James is just giving me a headache and I didnt really see any Shino takers so there is that
She was third on my to vote for list I’m still okay with either James or Shino dying, James is just giving me a headache and I didnt really see any Shino takers so there is that
I answered Marma earlier. It felt baiting coz I can't think of him stating that he has a strong role if it was true. so I thought of the BP trait. It's why I said stating it would take away the benefit of the role. He later said that his idea of strong passive role might be different that other's idea of strong role or something like that. I said that I could be wrong tho since there wasn't much to back it up.
Comes across as disconnected, comments sound more go with the flow than anything imo, personally still dislike the “i knew you were BP” comment after James’ reveal - somehow could be a greenwash attempt maybe?
Chill, i said repeatedly I could be wrong when I talked about my impression on James posts earlier. The logic is that it felt he's baiting! No one with actual strong role would jump and state that in the thread first thing in d1
I answered Marma earlier. It felt baiting coz I can't think of him stating that he has a strong role if it was true. so I thought of the BP trait. It's why I said stating it would take away the benefit of the role. He later said that his idea of strong passive role might be different that other's idea of strong role or something like that. I said that I could be wrong tho since there wasn't much to back it up.
It's true. Whenever I got strong roles I make very vague hints to be able to use them.
Doesn't always work and people still wanna lynch me day 1, so I reveal the good role.
This time it's pretty lackluster, ngl.
Comes across as disconnected, comments sound more go with the flow than anything imo, personally still dislike the “i knew you were BP” comment after James’ reveal - somehow could be a greenwash attempt maybe?
She explained why but I still kinda dont get how one goes to BP from there, bit many leaps. Though doesn't sound like she would be red if James flips red because this would be too weird of a "defense" if it can even be called that
She explained why but I still kinda dont get how one goes to BP from there, bit many leaps. Though doesn't sound like she would be red if James flips red because this would be too weird of a "defense" if it can even be called that
What do you think about a James lynch?
If I remember correctly he did claim strong role to save himself from being lynched in the past as scum. He hasn’t done so this time