Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

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I don’t see how Tower of god will survive after this spinoff, SIU destroyed family heads image with this work, fights were sh*t and the graphics are terrible
Is the only manhwa who doesn’t upgrade their graphics by season, FUG is irrelevant more than ever, here we have Edhan struggling with everything in his way.
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When someone strong appears siu fails to aura them up The display of power doesn’t make you feel like they are really strong.
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You guys will be shock when you realize tower of god probably is not coming back he was cooked by every TOG community in every front, closed his twitter page.
The reviews in the korea webtoon average 5.6 out of 10

he is done.
 

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Family heads are fine. They are a match for shining ones (strongest gods of their world sans axis) though potentially shining ones are stronger if they learn to use shinsu on higher level. The big difference was that urek was a made an axis and much above FHs or even admins. It simply means there are beings much stronger than FHs.

Imagine if beyond 134th floor godlike beings from other universes rule the tower and even some axis from other worlds. Enryu can show up to support baam against them and urek can use full light powers then.
 

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We all will be disappointed certainly and surely there is no doubt in that ...
 

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I don’t see how Tower of god will survive after this spinoff, SIU destroyed family heads image with this work, fights were sh*t and the graphics are terrible
Is the only manhwa who doesn’t upgrade their graphics by season, FUG is irrelevant more than ever, here we have Edhan struggling with everything in his way.
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When someone strong appears siu fails to aura them up The display of power doesn’t make you feel like they are really strong.
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You guys will be shock when you realize tower of god probably is not coming back he was cooked by every TOG community in every front, closed his twitter page.
The reviews in the korea webtoon average 5.6 out of 10

he is done.
His first mistake is this absurd exponential scale of power where 1 ranker = 100s of regulars, but 1 HR = 100s of rankers, then 1 top HR = 100s of HRs and finally 1 FH = 10000s of HRs.

His second mistake was claiming that only the irregulars could bypass FH's immortality.

His third mistake was creating arcs in which all ranks clash, resulting in a senseless and chaotic mess (cf 1st mistake).
How am I supposed to get hyped by regulars when they're facing the top HR of a Great Family ?
Then we're supposed to be hyped by regular princesses ? We've just seen Adori destroy a whole family. It wouldn't be a problem if the gap wasn't this big between Adori and Maria. Heck I'm sure Adori would fold Maschenny in three.
What kind of plot twist will SIU use to justify the exponential growth of Baam's friend ?
The importance given to power destroyed all the balance of the story.
We're too deep in the BS with Khun acting like FHs are his friends instead of instantly getting fried by shinsoo concentration.

Which brings us to the 4th mistake: too many retcons.
SIU's decision to change or ignore certain rules he had established in the story (I'm not talking about blog posts), without justification, sets a precedent.
He can do it again.

With that being said, I reread the spinoff that I dropped because I was bored to death.
The first arc is still one of the worst piece of fiction I've ever read in a manga/webtoon but the rest is ok.
Ari FH is lame af. Urek is always conveniently nerfed so that chapters can exceed 10 panels, which is annoying. Some cool characters like Baek.

If I ignore the first arc, I rate this spinoff 5.5/10. (Season 3 was a 4/10 at best)
 

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Family heads are fine. They are a match for shining ones (strongest gods of their world sans axis) though potentially shining ones are stronger if they learn to use shinsu on higher level. The big difference was that urek was a made an axis and much above FHs or even admins. It simply means there are beings much stronger than FHs.

Imagine if beyond 134th floor godlike beings from other universes rule the tower and even some axis from other worlds. Enryu can show up to support baam against them and urek can use full light powers then.
The fights were trash, graphics are as bad as a comic in 2013, stop your justification nobody even care about this. he forced this in ours throat now he is bankrupt.

He was forced to finish this shit
Spin off are 3 to 12 chapters Not 70!
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FCK OFF… I’m just telling it like it is. At this rate ToG is going to be the new HxH, Berserk with a niche cult following (median age 65). I honestly feel bad for those folks.
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The fights were trash, graphics are as bad as a comic in 2013, stop your justification nobody even care about this. he forced this in ours throat now he is bankrupt.

He was forced to finish this shit
Spin off are 3 to 12 chapters Not 70!
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I enjoyed eduan vs mago and urek vs aubrion. Urek vs latour and eduan were short fights but decent. I do think SIU should made power scaling less vague like telling us when urek is using only light or shinsu or when both. He also doesn't want to commit to clear power scaling by nerfing characters like not letting eduan having his main spear and not letting full power mago fight him.

The main issue was spacing and unnecessary focus on irrelevant regulars and tests. Whenever the focus was on regulars and tests , the spin off was boring and mid and unfortunately there is a lot of focus on them. But when the focus is on FHs , shining ones , urek fighting and interesting lore reveals like axis , baek ryun's powers , nameless princess's connection to arlen etc , it was good.

Though I hope there is more to this spin off. If this is end of the spin off then it is a massive failure as it barely focuses on urek's climb or his legend spreading in the tower.
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My idea would be below

- Make baek ryun a high ranker already. In this scenario phataminium has black evil bombs placed throughout the tower and with time they will consume the tower. Baek's moon ability lets him discover them. Corrupted shining ones are sent to stop baek ryun. Urek joins baek and starts destroying this black bombs. FHs like eduan and ari hon also join.

-Urek would be immediately be high ranker by passing ari hon's test and defeating him before hand so no need to focus on normal slow placed climbing. Baek , urek and some FHs vs shining ones and black beings defending this black bombs. They have to travel from one location to another. Finally all 6 shining ones fuse to become one super entity and axis level being and urek defeats and kills it.

-Everyone including FHs and zahard are shocked and urek's legend spreads. Also at same time when doing all these stuffs , more rankers and high rankers join urek and baek creating wolkhaisong. After taking care of all bombs their new objective is to get out of tower connecting the spin off to baam's timeline.
 

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My idea would be below

- Make baek ryun a high ranker already. In this scenario phataminium has black evil bombs placed throughout the tower and with time they will consume the tower. Baek's moon ability lets him discover them. Corrupted shining ones are sent to stop baek ryun. Urek joins baek and starts destroying this black bombs. FHs like eduan and ari hon also join.

-Urek would be immediately be high ranker by passing ari hon's test and defeating him before hand so no need to focus on normal slow placed climbing. Baek , urek and some FHs vs shining ones and black beings defending this black bombs. They have to travel from one location to another. Finally all 6 shining ones fuse to become one super entity and axis level being and urek defeats and kills it.

-Everyone including FHs and zahard are shocked and urek's legend spreads. Also at same time when doing all these stuffs , more rankers and high rankers join urek and baek creating wolkhaisong. After taking care of all bombs their new objective is to get out of tower connecting the spin off to baam's timeline.
Maybe SIU justifies the significance of "Flower of Zygaena" or things like this. Otherwise, Urek does things that looks rather tiny than his name/power suggests constantly. Though you are also leaving out Revs, FUG, CCs, Regends, Ancients and many other stuff aside to come up with this, which is the main problem for me and as seen by @Ignorant , too. Many things were hyped only for a towerborn eye imo, and now considering Shinies, you just forget the entire tower and only consider irregulars, and among them, Urek, Phantaminium, shinies, and the rest is toast.
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I don't know, there are already more than thousands of power phantasy things out there, genuises, born abnormals and stuff.

There was a cool grind in S1 and S2 and some cosmic horror. Probably I loved that more.
 
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Wait, what's this about justifying the flower of zygena thing? Did that need justification?
 

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Many things were hyped only for a towerborn eye imo, and now considering Shinies, you just forget the entire tower and only consider irregulars, and among them, Urek, Phantaminium, shinies, and the rest is toast.
What i understood your point to be is that tog has so much non tower born lore now that anything not related to irregular in tower is pretty much useless. If so I agree. SIU basically has portrayed his own mindset via the FHs. That those not born into, let's say "wealth" or "power", are insects. That's clearly what he personally thinks too
 

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The setting in the story has always been that the tower in inherently unfair in that talent for shinsoo is immutable from birth. However SIU has also introduced a number of other plot points. You have Bam who is "blessed" by shinsoo talent but on the other hand his talent and irregular status are things which have caused people to continually try and exploit him. And the whole plot point about his potential fate as a savior and liberator of the tower was flipped. Bam's not a fated savior, he is a monster created by his biological parents to bring upon a bloody revenge upon zahard and his companions at any cost. Rachel is not quite as blessed but she is miserable and kinda evil. The family heads aren't gods, they are humans whose ascension to godhood only made it so far and are now trapped in a tower that rejects them with subjects who bear no love for them while at the same time they have to continually erase their memories just to get by.
 

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What i understood your point to be is that tog has so much non tower born lore now that anything not related to irregular in tower is pretty much useless. If so I agree. SIU basically has portrayed his own mindset via the FHs. That those not born into, let's say "wealth" or "power", are insects. That's clearly what he personally thinks too
But that’s clearly not true.
 

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What i understood your point to be is that tog has so much non tower born lore now that anything not related to irregular in tower is pretty much useless. If so I agree. SIU basically has portrayed his own mindset via the FHs. That those not born into, let's say "wealth" or "power", are insects. That's clearly what he personally thinks too
Tog has so much tower born lore and anything not irregular is still useless. That was what I thought.
 

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now considering Shinies, you just forget the entire tower and only consider irregulars
Depending on how siu goes up with this - I think we don't need to worry about it.

Remember SO's (shining ones) are with the Red trash can people ; Next time we see them siu can release lore about ancients /trash can and outside world simultaneously in s4

of course it would require careful and extremely hyped execution - but siu had done that before.

Honestly I was so disappointed when I found out that SO's will continue as antagonists later - after calming down and thinking about it with a somewhat optimistic (but still realistic?) mind - I think siu can really make a blogbuster out of s4.
 

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I hope season 4 wraps up the story. This show has dragged for too long already.
 

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I did not expect some important lore drops and Mago-Eduan fight from the spinoff's start, so I want to think good of what SIU can come up with, but he sure takes time.
IIRC spinoff and S4 should have been in similar start, while spinoff got out months later than expected and S4...💀
 

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The moment he bottled Eduan's return as a proper FH, Tower of God stocks plummeted to bankruptcy status. It's bizarre to me that SIU doesn't surround himself with editors who critique his work from a position where he can improve it, rather than always having a yes-man around him. As I mentioned previously. TOG feels like it's finished. I have some hope for the series, but we'll see what happens.
 

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Wait, what's this about justifying the flower of zygena thing? Did that need justification?
I missed this one. What I meant as "justification" is, compared to the grandiose stuff of Exes and Shinies, and at the very least Zahard, Urek, Wing Tree etc. deals with rather trivial things. After this spinoff, Urek is not just some genius who has a beef with the top irregular, not the entire world building put him at the centre almost, while what he does is flower of zygaena, gifting red thryssa to Hell Joe, trying to prevent FH death...
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The moment he bottled Eduan's return as a proper FH, Tower of God stocks plummeted to bankruptcy status. It's bizarre to me that SIU doesn't surround himself with editors who critique his work from a position where he can improve it, rather than always having a yes-man around him. As I mentioned previously. TOG feels like it's finished. I have some hope for the series, but we'll see what happens.
Spinoff mysteriously introduced some V and Arlene-related stuff, too. I am clinging onto those that would still make GWs relevant at least.

But to tell you the truth, I want to discuss over chapters man, it has been long we are discussing over nothing almost. I missed waiting for spoilers.
 

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Spinoff mysteriously introduced some V and Arlene-related stuff, too. I am clinging onto those that would still make GWs relevant at least.

But to tell you the truth, I want to discuss over chapters man, it has been long we are discussing over nothing almost. I missed waiting for spoilers.
The only way out of this shit show is somehow he needs to make Zahard comparable to Urek if not stronger but i dont see it happenig especially seeing how much he has wanked Urek in his spinoff.


I think this time he will take a big hiatus and good for him. He needs to reflect on his work and return back with season 1 energy for season 4 (if that is to be the last season of TOG verse)
 
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