Chapter Hunter x Hunter Chapter 420 Spoilers & Discussion

Demonspeed

The Bull
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Global Moderator
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
47,625
Reaction score
61,318
Gender
Male
Country
France
I don't think his training was really bad although Theta wanted to slow him down. But he is in a peculiar situation and he awakened an ability that's Zetsu dependent by instinct. Theta taught him the Main Principles and he is trying to experiment with Laplace's Demon after practice. He can defeat low level Nen Users and surprise people the first time but he has a long way to go.
 

Epic_Rider

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Oct 15, 2009
Messages
1,698
Reaction score
1,832
Gender
Male
Country
Jamaica
Gon learned Zetsu by himself but for the advanced ones he was taught by Wing and Biscuit. Hisoka is the one who showed him In.
Yeah, that's what I meant, if he would learn In by himself the way Gon learned Zetsu by himself.
 

kkck

Waifu Slayer
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Joined
Sep 3, 2007
Messages
46,245
Reaction score
24,897
Gender
Hidden
Country
Fire Nation
I don't think his training was really bad although Theta wanted to slow him down. But he is in a peculiar situation and he awakened an ability that's Zetsu dependent by instinct. Theta taught him the Main Principles and he is trying to experiment with Laplace's Demon after practice. He can defeat low level Nen Users and surprise people the first time but he has a long way to go.
Eh, maybe? I think his nen beast would do most of the heavy lifting here. Otherwise I am not sure of how he fares against your average ten user.
 

heron bpv

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Feb 2, 2012
Messages
391
Reaction score
254
Gender
Male
Country
Brazil
Amazing chapter, too bad for the hiatus notice, though :feelsbadman
Anyway, time has finally moved forward in the series, as in we're past the time announced in chapter 410 (40 minutes into special martial law)!
 

YipYip

Registered User
中級員 / Chuukyuuin / Member
Joined
Jul 23, 2013
Messages
231
Reaction score
154
Age
35
Gender
Male
Country
Germany
Amazing chapter, too bad for the hiatus notice, though :feelsbadman
Anyway, time has finally moved forward in the series, as in we're past the time announced in chapter 410 (40 minutes into special martial law)!
But what did the Feitan, Phinks and Nobunaga do in the meantime after SML was announced xD
 

heron bpv

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Feb 2, 2012
Messages
391
Reaction score
254
Gender
Male
Country
Brazil
But what did the Feitan, Phinks and Nobunaga do in the meantime after SML was announced xD
May we find that out in the next batch 🙏
Oh God, we're going back and forth in this particular time frame for the next few years, aren't we? :XD
 

Ebrietas-

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Aug 5, 2019
Messages
399
Reaction score
705
Country
Turkey
May we find that out in the next batch 🙏
Oh God, we're going back and forth in this particular time frame for the next few years, aren't we? :XD
I imagine timeline will get a lot linear when upper and lower tier storylines merge which is happening now.
 

ShadowHeart

Registered User
MH中毒 / MH Chuudoku / MH Addicted
Joined
Apr 11, 2010
Messages
6,212
Reaction score
3,037
Age
34
Country
England
We'll see what Machi up to in the next batch.
 

Rak

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Aug 1, 2007
Messages
483
Reaction score
450
Age
40
Gender
Male
Country
France
I don't think Hisoka saw the Nen Beast. But he may have sensed his hidden presence since he is so sensitive. Benjamin could not see him, and the only time we saw it was while Tserri was not in Zetsu.
 

SanaNeOlm

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Jul 15, 2022
Messages
357
Reaction score
364
Country
Germany
Hisoka is just a beast and a Nen-Master, it doesn't surprise me but it did remind me of this



Tserri has a long way to go but he also is extremely talented at learning Nen and analyzing it.
 

XXGenesis

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Oct 8, 2011
Messages
3,131
Reaction score
1,884
Age
35
Gender
Male
Country
Turkmenistan
My prediction/hypothesis was what happens when Tserri with his ability goes up against Physically Super Human characters likes Hisoka?

I was too lazy to think out a whole scenario, tapped out n kinda settled that Tserri would have enough time in 10secs to get away.
As knowing his range? Could such characters remove themselves from his radius in time. In 2.96/2.92 secs yes they can..But if Tserri lowers his Zetsu application. He’ll be Ephimeral for whenever he so sees fit. Making him Godly at that point.
 

uberfayt

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Aug 17, 2013
Messages
1,277
Reaction score
6,080
Age
34
Gender
Male
Country
Imperium of Mankind
Making him Godly at that point.
How would that make him godly? Currently his ability is purely defensive, and doesn't even offer him absolute protection at that; Tserri is still vulnerable to attacks and is practically toast if hit by an AOE attack in a confined space. So even if he reduces activation time even further, I don't see it being a threat to any "super human".

However, I believe it has a huge potential for becoming something broken as it levels up.
 

Ebrietas-

Registered User
上級員 / Jyoukuuin / Sr. Member
Joined
Aug 5, 2019
Messages
399
Reaction score
705
Country
Turkey
My prediction/hypothesis was what happens when Tserri with his ability goes up against Physically Super Human characters likes Hisoka?

I was too lazy to think out a whole scenario, tapped out n kinda settled that Tserri would have enough time in 10secs to get away.
As knowing his range? Could such characters remove themselves from his radius in time. In 2.96/2.92 secs yes they can..But if Tserri lowers his Zetsu application. He’ll be Ephimeral for whenever he so sees fit. Making him Godly at that point.
They don't need to remove themselves from the radius because Tserriednich can't hurt them inside either. Also he can keep the illusion for a lot more than 10 seconds though it needs to be charged up(time he spends using nen before zetsu/23)
 

XXGenesis

Registered User
有名人 / Yuumeijin / Celebrity
Joined
Oct 8, 2011
Messages
3,131
Reaction score
1,884
Age
35
Gender
Male
Country
Turkmenistan
How would that make him godly? Currently his ability is purely defensive, and doesn't even offer him absolute protection at that; Tserri is still vulnerable to attacks and is practically toast if hit by an AOE attack in a confined space. So even if he reduces activation time even further, I don't see it being a threat to any "super human".

However, I believe it has a huge potential for becoming something broken as it levels up.
Because it will allow Tserri’s Evasion & Counter to be almost guaranteed….Its about imagination 🤷🏿‍♂️

AOE attack would depend on its size & speed. & Who has an attack like that?? Why would they nuke or designate the whole area as a n target?

You can argue a counter because of your knowledge about his ability; The characters don’t have that basis, to go off.

Also the 10seconds is what he see’s. & the Illusion ends if he ends Zetsu. With less than a second switching he’s not very touchable. Unless knowledge about how the ability works, & you delay an AOE attack that covers the Radius of 36M.

Unless Gyo allows you to see through the illusion. Tserri will be able to activate & deactivate, w/o pauses.. His own physical speed would be his biggest drawback.
 

Demonspeed

The Bull
神のごとし / Kami no Gotoshi / Godlike
Global Moderator
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
47,625
Reaction score
61,318
Gender
Male
Country
France
It's good but not that big of a deal. Laplace's Demon is very unconventional. Hiding your abilities is normal in a Nen battle but there is usually a time where both fighters reveal it in front of each other. Tserriednich needing to use Zetsu to trigger E10S already makes him suspicious, Benjamin was expecting a Counter Type when he saw him. The way it works, his ability becomes much less threatening once you get an idea of what it does too. Whether it's an illusion or precognition. He has been using his ability, using the element of surprise so far. Spamming Zetsu will always be noticed at the top level at the very least.

Compared to many abilities that we know, it becomes a lot less effective long term in a fight. He needs to win quickly. And that's disregarding other things like Nen mastery in general.
 
Last edited:

uberfayt

Registered User
英雄メンバー / Eiyuu Menbaa / Hero Member
Joined
Aug 17, 2013
Messages
1,277
Reaction score
6,080
Age
34
Gender
Male
Country
Imperium of Mankind
Because it will allow Tserri’s Evasion & Counter to be almost guaranteed….Its about imagination 🤷🏿‍♂️

AOE attack would depend on its size & speed. & Who has an attack like that?? Why would they nuke or designate the whole area as a n target?

You can argue a counter because of your knowledge about his ability; The characters don’t have that basis, to go off.

Also the 10seconds is what he see’s. & the Illusion ends if he ends Zetsu. With less than a second switching he’s not very touchable. Unless knowledge about how the ability works, & you delay an AOE attack that covers the Radius of 36M.

Unless Gyo allows you to see through the illusion. Tserri will be able to activate & deactivate, w/o pauses.. His own physical speed would be his biggest drawback.
Evading - sure, but countering? not really - unless we are talking about nen users with non special (or super) physical strength, in such case he could attack with his gun right after dropping his Zetsu.
But my point still stands though; none of what you have described makes him "godly", and definitely not a threat to decent nen user fighters (such as Kurapika, Gon, Killua, Knuckles...).

As for nen users that we know have AOE attacks or abilities: Melody, Morel, Feitan, Nobunaga (this one is a stretch, but it was stated that his range with the sword is like 4 meters, and that if he draws his sword anything within that radius will get hit), Killua with his Yo-yos, and last but not least,Youpi. This is a non-exhaustive list.
 
Last edited:
Top