That's wonderful! I actually hope Nakaba does what I expected to, and talked about before. To end yet another era, the Chaos one, and let the MnYK step out of the shadow of NnT.
Humans were supposed to be the closest to Chaos in terms of internal contradictions, but a foolish decision robbed them of any significance in the era of Chaos, and Cath become the main player instead of Arthur. Humans became either tools (Chaos Knights) or fools (Cathmelot citizen). And in the fight against Cath, all the races got involved at the end.
I hope the end of Canceloth is the end of Chaos in fact. A more balanced world with more sentient beings on both sides is a fresh start for his story. After 598+ chapters of I wanna spread despair [DK] and I wanna destroy [Cath] enemies, isn't it the time to have an enemy who thinks and have an actual idea of why they want some change to the current order? This is Nakaba's one final chance to save his manga from being a repetitive trash. Let's see if he notices it and use it in the best way possible.
Why the separation? In final arc of NnT, when the sins were disappointed of Merlin's methods, Gowther said they can't understand each other because they are from different clans, but he is a doll so he can relate with each one of them. It's about the philosophical worldview of the author. Does he thinks the ultimate ideal of a peaceful coexistence between different clans, can actually happen or not. Should they each follow thier own path, or continue to fight until that utopia is someday created after so many sacrifices. And Nakaba's answer up until now is NO, that form of coexistence isn't a practical possibility. We are yet to see if the foreshadowed future is gonna change though.
Why the secrecy? The kids didn't know about what happened before they birth. Anybody who knew about it has seemingly kept their mouth shut. It isn't new to the story either. The real Chaos was a great secret only a very few in Bel knew about it. If people of the future know about other clans and/or Chaos, some of them will try to undo the separation or revive Chaos if she isn't fully annihilated. And another dark era will begin. Ironically, the GKs are now fully aware of it, so even if the secret is kept by the people of this era, we know for sure that the knowledge has already been spread to the people of that time! Watch out Llywarch, too much curiosity can be dangerous my kid!
In the second Vaizel festival, in a volume specific panel, Zaratras praised Escanor for his judgement. And now Lancelot decided to trust Gawain as the to keep others on track. It seems Wisdom is a greater family inheritance than Sunshine.
It was postponed but the time to craft the STs has finally come. I also agree that Rhitta is not a suitable weapon for Gawain. The design is also lackluster. I hope she also gets to have a special ST that's not Rhitta nor another magic sphere!! A Battle Wand to support both of her powers is a good choice imo.
Sorry to ask bro, but what's the goddess realm you talked about? lol. At best let Mael show up in the gathering Nakaba sensei. We know you totally don't care about the GC, but this is going overboard lol.
In the first chapter when Varghese mentioned various places to venture, there is no reference to the GC. He only talked about a great shadow in the sky that was the country of sky people. All of those places are explored so far. Perhaps Mael lives among the sky people, and Nakaba doesn't have a plans to introduce a GR at all. The best I can hope for now is Mael visiting Liones and talk to Tristan and Gawain.
That's an impossible scenario you are full aware of. The problem of Canceloth is solved before the birth of GKs. Perhaps the one who decides to separate the realms is Arthur after he reclaims his power. Canceloth is obsessed with destruction, and that decision needs a working brain!
As you said two posts after, "by trying to change the future, something even worse happens, that's what we are told." That's the answer to your question bro. That worse thing can be the plot of part 3.
What do you mean bro? We perfectly know why we are here. Cath called them from future. And they perfectly served their purpose by postponing the return of 4KotA so that Cath could face them in Cathmelot. As simple as that. We know why they are here, but this scenario can't feed some people's headcanon to the point they poisoned everyone's mind to neglect the official information!!
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Percival isn't officially the Earth though. And Nakaba himself chose the Heart symbol for him, perhaps as a reference to his life spirit nature. Don't spread false claims please.
What do you mean bro? We perfectly know why we are here. Cath called them from future. And they perfectly served their purpose by postponing the return of 4KotA so that Cath could face them in Cathmelot. As simple as that. We know why they are here, but this scenario can't feed some people's headcanon to the point they poisoned everyone's mind to neglect the official information!!
What official information ? We have no confirmation from Cath that he did this. You’re obviously not gonna agree but I don’t think Cath was the one that brought them here and nothing about their meeting with him indicates he did. From what we saw it seems like he was just as lost as they were and just took advantage of the situation. He also never said anything about using them to postpone the 4 knights getting to Liones and clearly said he was hoping they actually killed them not delayed them.
But for the sake of argument let’s just say I did agree with you and said Cath was the one behind this. Then logically speaking he should’ve sent them back to the future once he saw they completed their mission. But since their still here Nakaba obviously has more in store for them and their role in the present is more then what you claim they were called back for
Guys, just to remind me, nothing is confirmed about what happened to the non-humans, right? The division of the worlds is something we're thinking about, right?
Percival isn't officially the Earth though. And Nakaba himself chose the Heart symbol for him, perhaps as a reference to his life spirit nature. Don't spread false claims please.
I actually never noticed this in the cover before but I chose earth for Percy because Earth is where life flourishes ,Earth represents life so heart makes sense as well.
Guys, just to remind me, nothing is confirmed about what happened to the non-humans, right? The division of the worlds is something we're thinking about, right?
What official information ? We have no confirmation from Cath that he did this. You’re obviously not gonna agree but I don’t think Cath was the one that brought them here and nothing about their meeting with him indicates he did. From what we saw it seems like he was just as lost as they were and just took advantage of the situation. He also never said anything about using them to postpone the 4 knights getting to Liones and clearly said he was hoping they actually killed them not delayed them.
But for the sake of argument let’s just say I did agree with you and said Cath was the one behind this. Then logically speaking he should’ve sent them back to the future once he saw they completed their mission. But since their still here Nakaba obviously has more in store for them and their role in the present is more then what you claim they were called back for
Hmmmm, chapter 246, the first page after cover. In the middle of their original mission, "at some point or other...", they became lost in a weird land. "Then the next thing" they knew, they "were in King Arthur's presence again."
Arthur with the calmest face possible: "Ah, it's you."
Some people are using this "Ah it's you" and the next phrase, "He was probing us to see what we are." to prove he was shocked to see them. They ignore the fact that regardless of who summoned them, it was the first time he met them in the current time, and it was perfectly normal for him to assay them. His dead eyes didn't show any sign of surprise, and he'd never said Ah it's you, if they were randomly just popped up in front of him. He clearly was waiting for them. The fact that they were in his presence to begin with, and he had a clear idea who they were only followed by a rapid scan, and the immediate plan that came to Arthur's as if he already had that in mind are against the assumption that Cath was not involved in it.
You see he never said anything about using them to postpone the KotA right? Page 16, just 15 pages after the cover, during the transformation to the bestial form, he says:
"Yes, I'll admit that strategy wasn't too successful.
But ...
... They were only meant to buy me time.
Time I could then devote to my next move!!"
Do you think it has a different meaning?
And then to answer your third point, why should Cath of all people send them back. Does it care about them being stuck in a wrong timeline at all? No.
should he be afraid of their presence? Not when they could not kill any of the KotA. The KotA are the threat, not some weaklings.
could he sent them back even if he wanted? No. We were shown that Cath has not dominated Lance to control him like a puppet. Lance clearly told him to shut the fuck up!
So he summoned them, observed them, confirmed their identity, gave them a fake mission to buy time, and then left them alone in an incorrect time and space with no care. Every single step is very much like Cath, and aside from the phrase that he probed them, which isn't that surprising for such an important mission, everything is in favor of the simpler and more understandable scenario. Even the facial expressions and the art backs this assumption.
Abusing one single phrase to pave way for useless headcanons is just a sign of arrogance.
I hope we can at least agree that the goal of the fake mission was to buy time based on official data.
I actually never noticed this in the cover before but I chose earth for Percy because Earth is where life flourishes ,Earth represents life so heart makes sense as well.
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I think they're just minding their own business in their own realms.
Whatever it is, there's a reason why other races disappeared from Britannia and were never able to return as they once did.
Call it the Great Divide or the Separation, but it is a major event.
Naturally, the only one capable of achieving something like this is someone wielding the power of Chaos, the force that created everything in the first place.
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While demons and goddesses have their own realms, the Fairy Realm might be the only one that allows refugees from other races, especially the Giants, since they have no realm of their own.
It would also welcome races like the Dragonkin or Beastkin, given that the Great Divide was always about separating humans from non-humans.
I can't imagine whoever separated them would create a realm for each race , the other races have to go somewhere.
Lancelot should be grateful that this is a medieval fantasy combat shounen and not a bishojo fashion drama setting because Kardeiz and Lohengrin would've MURDERED EVERYONE WITH THEIR FIT
Separate? be more extreme; if this is a future that will change, and it's something dark, exaggerate the dark side of it,
That being said: the races were not separated, they were EXTERMINATED.
lancelot kill the 4 clans.
non-human separation is something that will occur 100% in the end, Since we're not at the end, and the future will be altered, then it's probably not the separation of the worlds that happened; it was the extermination of the clans.
It's better this to make the separation between the clans more impactful.
Separate? Don't be more extreme; if this is a future that will change, and it's something dark, exaggerate the dark side of it,
That being said: the races were not separated, they were EXTERMINATED.
lancelot kill the 4 clans.
non-human separation is something that will occur 100% in the end, Since we're not at the end, and the future will be altered, then it's probably not the separation of the worlds that was worse; it was the extermination of the clans.
It's better this to make the separation between the clans more impactful.
I am very curious about the method of separation. I assume it's going to be done via the powers of Chaos, and the realms will be just like Chaos Camelot. The only way to travel to these realms is via the powers of Chaos or a special portal that was somehow found on top of Behemoth, for some reason.
Having said that, banishing the other races from Britannia is a whole different story. Would whoever separates the realms be able to scan the human realm for non-humans and just snap their fingers to banish them? Alternatively, they might wage a war of extermination instead, hoping to drive them out of Britannia completely.
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The Demon, Goddess, and Fairy realms are still on the same plane of existence as the human realm (Britannia).
They aren't in a separate dimension like Chaos Camelot, but I think they will be after the separation.
I am very curious about the method of separation. I assume it's going to be done via the powers of Chaos, and the realms will be just like Chaos Camelot. The only way to travel to these realms is via the powers of Chaos or a special portal that was somehow found on top of Behemoth, for some reason.
Having said that, banishing the other races from Britannia is a whole different story. Would whoever separates the realms be able to scan the human realm for non-humans and just snap their fingers to banish them? Alternatively, they might wage a war of extermination instead, hoping to drive them out of Britannia completely.
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The Demon, Goddess, and Fairy realms are still on the same plane of existence as the human realm (Britannia).
They aren't in a separate dimension like Chaos Camelot, but I think they will be after the separation.
Hmmm, I wonder if the remaining knights of the apocalypse will make contracts with chaos(not cath) to give themselves a boost. Lancelot is absurdly broken of course but a chaos contract could end up breaching some of the gap and perhaps add juice they need for a reordering of the world as a whole. The 4 knights of the apocalypse for the most part have a series of abilities that scaled enough could potentially reorder the world. Lancelot has his hazy moon and infinite mana. Percival is a non human entity that can govern life and death. Tristan has access to ark, darkness and a unique but still unknown magic. We saw from mael back in NNT that the combination of darkness and ark can do extraordinary BS. let alone that this probably is close enough to chaos itself. Gawain has a power that either is or has some relation to sunshine, the sun itself. Add in some chaos juice and the four of them destroying and remaking the world isn't that much of a stretch.
That said, the separation of races could simply be achieved by most races simply walking out of the human world and closing the door behind. Most races have their own native realms to begin with (goddess realm, demon realm, fairy realm). Which leaves giants and other lesser races. With the union between king and diane odds are that giants would be welcome into the fairy realm. And the fairy king's forest seems to already be home to magical creatures other than fairies so it wouldn't be weird that they accept others as well.
It doesn't look like lancelot had a goal or a plan when he accepted the contract with cath so it wouldn't be too weird if the separation of the races happens by accident. Planning for this would be insane. As in, someone coming up with a way to save lancelot at the cost of removing non human races from the world would be unearned nonsense. Obviously this is the end result but ffs, just killing lancelot is preferable.
Okay, In all the translations I've done and seen, the characters say the same thing: that non-humans no longer exist, separation is bullshit, they were exterminated.
Okay, In all the translations I've done and seen, the characters say the same thing: that non-humans no longer exist, separation is bullshit, they were exterminated.
Or maybe you're right that they were exterminated but in the changed future to save them , someone will separate their realms from the human realm to save them from the one trying to exterminate them ?
Or maybe you're right that they were exterminated but in the changed future to save them , someone will separate their realms from the human realm to save them from the one trying to exterminate them ?
-And I'll go further, that's why Nakaba created and highlighted the "Remnants of Destruction" technique, because it was with this technique that Lancelot annihilated every non-human clan.
-I believe they'll just prevent that from happening with Chaos Lancelot, but as we know, altering destiny leads to something worse, and what could be worse than the end of the clans?
