Spoiler One Piece Spoiler Hints Discussion

[Bandit99]

Finally back to the more interesting characters. This endless imu/luffy/loki loop has been so boring

 

[ShadowHeart]

For any of you guys who think Imu will be defeated in this arc, then how do you explain the Elbaf mural

Blackbeard will kill him and take his devil fruit. It's actually funny people think a post timeskip creation that never existed in Oda 5 year plan is FV. Oda already debunked Imu as the FV even before he introduced him with the Lurking Legend statement.

 

[SanaNeOlm]

Ok if Zoro and Sanji are going to defeat Omen buffed Sommers and Killingham at this point in the story, I fear the SHs will never see Imu again personally. That may also be the reason why Oda is showing so much of Imu engaging with Luffy while we're seeing many, if not all, of his fighting abilities. It is BBs destiny to kill him. At least that's what I get from the story so far.

Dragon and the RA are already bringing the CD to their breaking point and even though Shamrock being there seems to helped them a bit, I can see BB, being the opportunist he is, attacking Mary Geoise too and killing Imu when he is weakened. Perhaps the story will move past Imu, knowing there were other god-like figures beside Nika, there is still much to tell.

Maybe the final war is not between WG, Marines and Pirates but just pure anarchy.

 

[Asmobot]

Yeah, indeed B.B is a shitty opportunistic bastard BUT - Imu isnt some type of Old man dying with cancer - Imu is actually a IMMORTAL creature, surrounded by 17 of the STRONGEST army in the World (all Immortals btw) - all who can use WORDL FUCKING WEAPONS - all have OP fruits - and he is living inside a fucking fortress in the most high place of the world- thatnis being guarded by the FUXKING MARINES!!!!!!

I'll use Shanks own words- IF BlackBeard by some sort of miracle, can GET there, where his father got - even then - what the fuck he will do against this guy where he don't have any weaknesses (in M.G) has at least 4 forms - 19 weapons + Maki + strongest CoC in the series ?

If you count how many adversity is in the way to B.B accomplish this "goal" of him.. you'll know its IMPOSSIBLE !

And - i dont think even if B.B could defeat Imu in 1x1 (what is absolutely impossible, specially that B.B weakness are body harm, and Imu only do impaled moves ) I don't think B.B could master and awaken the O.G fruit, or even if he could use all this power - if every frut has a demon inside, the OG fruit for sure has the most powerful and big devil of them all !!

We don't know in what state will Imu be after comming back from current fight. Also don' forget that Laffite is there, and they have warp warp fruit.

 

[Imfamux]

Blackbeard will kill him and take his devil fruit. It's actually funny people think a post timeskip creation that never existed in Oda 5 year plan is FV. Oda already debunked Imu as the FV even before he introduced him with the Lurking Legend statement.

WTF DUDE - this was in 2019 ! - and Imu isn't a post timeskip creation - in 2014 one of his ex-editors just spolier evertyhign ! in 2014 It's said that the final saga will be a FIGHT against a DEMON who rules over the world and has all DF powers -
Blackbear CAN'T even go where Imu is mate - he can't even GO THERE !

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We don't know in what state will Imu be after comming back from current fight. Also don' forget that Laffite is there, and they have warp warp fruit.

And ? Even if Imu goes back almost dying he will have 5 gorousei there + a bunch of H.K - AND - in M.G he don't have any limitations buddy ! ANY !

 

[Mr. Crocodile]

Finally back to the more interesting characters. This endless imu/luffy/loki loop has been so boring

This is why authors should not listen to "fans" and just do their thing

 

[Bandit99]

This is why authors should not listen to "fans" and just do their thing

What does this have to do with my comment? Don't authors always "just do their thing"?

 

[Sr.Enissay]

WTF DUDE - this was in 2019 ! - and Imu isn't a post timeskip creation - in 2014 one of his ex-editors just spolier evertyhign ! in 2014 It's said that the final saga will be a FIGHT against a DEMON who rules over the world and has all DF powers -
Blackbear CAN'T even go where Imu is mate - he can't even GO THERE !

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And ? Even if Imu goes back almost dying he will have 5 gorousei there + a bunch of H.K - AND - in M.G he don't have any limitations buddy ! ANY !

guess what will happen to Imu/in what state he'll be in, if one of his Knights dies in Elbaph?! we have seen a glimpse of it when Loki killed Harald.

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Ok if Zoro and Sanji are going to defeat Omen buffed Sommers and Killingham at this point in the story, I fear the SHs will never see Imu again personally. That may also be the reason why Oda is showing so much of Imu engaging with Luffy while we're seeing many, if not all, of his fighting abilities. It is BBs destiny to kill him. At least that's what I get from the story so far.

Dragon and the RA are already bringing the CD to their breaking point and even though Shamrock being there seems to helped them a bit, I can see BB, being the opportunist he is, attacking Mary Geoise too and killing Imu when he is weakened. Perhaps the story will move past Imu, knowing there were other god-like figures beside Nika, there is still much to tell.

Maybe the final war is not between WG, Marines and Pirates but just pure anarchy.

since Luffy and Teach have opposite preferences. I don't think Teach will be any worse than Imu as a ruler (if he somehow managed to dethrone Imu and get his power) and the final battle will be mainly between 2 of the D's: Joyboy vs Davy D. Jones.

 

[SanaNeOlm]

since Luffy and Teach have opposite preferences. I don't think Teach will be any worse than Imu as a ruler (if he somehow managed to dethrone Imu and get his power) and the final battle will be mainly between 2 of the D's: Joyboy vs Davy D. Jones.

If the govt really collapses including the marines, I imagine the world will become lawless. It will be like the pirate island just on a global scale. It would also give weight to Kobys character wanting to fight for civilians and may even secure his stance as the next head of a new power dynamic.

And Nika/Luffy being the liberator. Despite him saying he is not a hero, everything he does even if through selfish reasons, helps people.

 

[Imfamux]

guess what will happen to Imu/in what state he'll be in, if one of his Knights dies in Elbaph?! we have seen a glimpse of it when Loki killed Harald.

Yeah - we saw it - but even if he lose 2 knights - he still has all his army up there - remember - we have Shamrocks , Garling, and all the gorousei right now in M.G - and B.B is waaaay to far from there

 

[Sr.Enissay]

Yeah - we saw it - but even if he lose 2 knights - he still has all his army up there - remember - we have Shamrocks , Garling, and all the gorousei right now in M.G - and B.B is waaaay to far from there

can his army fight freely? risking to destroy the holy land and injure/ kill CDs and show their true nature to the world?
Teach's devil fruit can do wonders but the Elders have strong haki, Teach and his men (with their DF powers) will struggle against the Elders
Anyways, Teach is way too far from M.G, so it's futile to keep arguing about "what ifs"

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If the govt really collapses including the marines, I imagine the world will become lawless. It will be like the pirate island just on a global scale. It would also give weight to Kobys character wanting to fight for civilians and may even secure his stance as the next head of a new power dynamic.

And Nika/Luffy being the liberator. Despite him saying he is not a hero, everything he does even if through selfish reasons, helps people.

Well, a lawless world is not something bad or even new. The one piece world is already in "disorder": There are countries that are not affiliated with the WG and countries who revolted against the WG. Not to mention the struggling countries who have to pay for the heavenly tribute. The current system isn't worthy to be kept or defended. The world won't completely be in a lawless state. Islands will be affiliated and protected by pirates (including the Yonkou).

 

[Imfamux]

can his army fight freely? risking to destroy the holy land and injure/ kill CDs and show their true nature to the world?
Teach's devil fruit can do wonders but the Elders have strong haki, Teach and his men (with their DF powers) will struggle against the Elders
Anyways, Teach is way too far from M.G, so it's futile to keep arguing about "what ifs"

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Well, a lawless world is not something bad or even new. The one piece world is already in "disorder": There are countries that are not affiliated with the WG and countries who revolted against the WG. Not to mention the struggling countries who have to pay for the heavenly tribute. The current system isn't worthy to be kept or defended. The world won't completely be in a lawless state. Islands will be affiliated and protected by pirates (including the Yonkou).

About your point - its almost valid, except you forgot smtg - the most important- what purpose could have the "Holy Land" without its God? So in this what if situation, if Imu himself is in danger, im sure that all G.K and gorousei will go all out, destroying anything- bc this is THEY WORLD, without Imu they don't have anything anymore - he is the source of immortality, the source O.P fruits, the source of the World Nobles, the source of Maki and Abyss, so - i don't think any commander of B.B could stand a chance against Omen G.K + World Weapons IN marygeoise !

 

[Sr.Enissay]

About your point - its almost valid, except you forgot smtg - the most important- what purpose could have the "Holy Land" without its God? So in this what if situation, if Imu himself is in danger, im sure that all G.K and gorousei will go all out, destroying anything- bc this is THEY WORLD, without Imu they don't have anything anymore - he is the source of immortality, the source O.P fruits, the source of the World Nobles, the source of Maki and Abyss, so - i don't think any commander of B.B could stand a chance against Omen G.K + World Weapons IN marygeoise !

what they can do when Imu (their main target) isn't there? get their hand on an ancient weapon , weakening Imu by taking away the ones he has contracts with these are the 2 plausible and logical reasons that i could think of

 

[Imfamux]

what they can do when Imu (their main target) isn't there? get their hand on an ancient weapon , weakening Imu by taking away the ones he has contracts with these are the 2 plausible and logical reasons that i could think of

Yeah, could be - but again we got stuck in the powerscaling, I don't think we have any crew alone that have the strength to fight with the "crew" of the King of the World, just that..only 1 Shamrock is enought to make B.B crew to tremble now imagine everyone ?

 

[electricmastro]

Blackbeard will kill him and take his devil fruit. It's actually funny people think a post timeskip creation that never existed in Oda 5 year plan is FV. Oda already debunked Imu as the FV even before he introduced him with the Lurking Legend statement.

I mean, technically Blackbeard didn’t show up until later either.

 

[costicla]

I doubt the 5 year plan (whatever that even was) has any bearing on One Piece now. Some of the most important characters in One Piece probably didn't even exist back then. We also know Oda changes stuff on the fly, like Ace being Roger's son, so yeah, mentioned that plan from almost 30 years ago when Oda didn;t even know how big the series would become is irrelevent.

 

[electricmastro]

I doubt the 5 year plan (whatever that even was) has any bearing on One Piece now. Some of the most important characters in One Piece probably didn't even exist back then. We also know Oda changes stuff on the fly, like Ace being Roger's son, so yeah, mentioned that plan from almost 30 years ago when Oda didn;t even know how big the series would become is irrelevent.

I mean, Law and Bonney apparently didn't exist until Sabaody, and look what happened

 

[baditz]

I mean, Law and Bonney apparently didn't exist until Sabaody, and look what happened

I m sure Oda already plan something with Kuma since TB, he already set up some 1 who respect Dragon become WG dog, n the we see Bonney did act childish n how she react when watching the war,,

Sure Oda did a lot recotnect thing, but we cannot denied he already have some plan for some chars, n he just improve to adabpt to current plot, like he plan Ace will died since begining but, make he is Roger son in procces.

 

[Federicoxxx]

UNCONFIRMED
( the gunko, Sanji, and something weird happening to Luffy's Parts.. at least )

Something interesting happening with Luffy and his feat was insane.

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UNCONFIRMED
( the gunko, Sanji, and something weird happening to Luffy's Parts.. at least )

Something interesting happening with Luffy and his feat was insane.

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Sanji Part confirmed

 

[marco1701]

UNCONFIRMED
( the gunko, Sanji, and something weird happening to Luffy's Parts.. at least )

Sanji Part confirmed

Gunko waking up is in the yesterday's summary