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[Yakkun]

Do yall want to see Chaos Lancelot vs Arthur w Excalibur or rather have Arthur sit this one out?

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Do yall want to see Chaos Lancelot vs Arthur w Excalibur or rather have Arthur sit this one out?

Arthur is too weak right now , he'd get one shot , he better stay behind while trying to hack Lancelot's Chaos to free him.

 

[Yakkun]

Arthur is too weak right now , he'd get one shot , he better stay behind while trying to hack Lancelot's Chaos to free him.

Is this your "This is most likely to happen" - opinion or is this your "This is what I WANT to see"-opinion?

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Is this your "This is most likely to happen" - opinion or is this your "This is what I WANT to see"-opinion?

Most likely of course , I don't see Lancelot getting free from Chaos without Arthur's help , I assume that's why Nakaba brought him .

 

[Yakkun]

Most likely of course , I don't see Lancelot getting free from Chaos without Arthur's help , I assume that's why Nakaba brought him .

Well, what would be your thoughts on the second type opinion then?

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Well, what would be your thoughts on the second type opinion then?

Same but with Jericho helping , except Jericho's death seems almost certain , I had hoped she would come and redeem herself.

I still can't believe she died like that without even seeing her corpse.

But hey , it's still possible that Merlin saved her and she's actually here in Liones and the lady of the lake is contacting her in secret.

 

[Yakkun]

Same but with Jericho helping , except Jericho's death seems almost certain , I had hoped she would come and redeem herself.

I still can't believe she died like that without even seeing her corpse.

But hey , it's still possible that Merlin saved her and she's actually here in Liones and the lady of the lake is contacting her in secret.

 

[kingRoXaS]

I guess nothing will stop us from being disappointed with how things are going right?

 

[Mighty Escanor]

Do yall want to see Chaos Lancelot vs Arthur w Excalibur or rather have Arthur sit this one out?

I actually hope he lands the final strike on Cath after he is separated from Lancelot. I mean the kota should have an important role in his defeat, but Arthur was sidelined too much all these times. He at least deserves one single plot relevant moment for his own, as the KoC and the future King of the KotA and others.

 

[Yakkun]

I guess nothing will stop us from being disappointed with how things are going right?

Even the most die-hard Lance glazers are starting to get bored with this development. Not necessarily here but even on Reddit some folks who were all ride or die about him until he made that stupid-ass trade with Cath are starting to lose interest.

It is a really bad look. Nakaba sadly fumbled making Lance's decision believable. It lacked any tension or desperation, it comes off as insanely hypocritical especially after he lectured Arthur for his shortcomings. Yes, Arthur made a gross miscalculation and should have gotten the help of the Sins when he started noticing that Cath was getting stronger inside of him. Like, a decade ago. But that was still an honest mistake even if it was desastrous and cost many lifes in the process and created needless misery.

But Lancelot? He knows all this and still decides to throw away the entire world (at least the one we know within the boundaries of the manga) for a girl he dated like three fucking times. Someone so bland she is more a plot device than an actual character with a personality. It is nothing short of AWFUL. How can anyone NOT BE disappointed with any of this. It makes Lancelot incredibly selfish, hypocritical and borderline insane. And yeah sure, one could say "the other 4KotA would've done the same with their significant others in his position". That may be so. But Lancelot is the guy who NEVER lost. He is Mr. Can-do-it-all. The other three are not on his level. There were other ways to go about this. Even if it meant risking Guinevere's life in the process. He didn't have it in his heart to risk it, maybe he would have failed despite all his skill but if anyone could have come up with a way to do it, it would have been Lancelot. No one else could've denied Cath his bargaining chip but he was like "cowabunga it is" and traded in the whole world for it. Because that decision was easier to him than risking the girl. Fine, have it your way. Any piece of misfortune, misery and bad shit that is ever going to come Lancelot's way henceforth - he deserves ALL of it and he should get zero pity. From anyone. If you risk the whole world that easily then living with the consequences of that decision is a forgone conclusion. Ain't no-one got the right to cry foul play for whatever shit he has coming. And I hope he will get it good at the end of it all. It will be cathartic.

 

[Lancelot]

Nakaba, my guy, what the fuck is this??? History revisionism in your own damned manga?!

The one who saved the demon realm two years ago was Percival and not Lancelot. Percival!

Are you telling me these guys who are members of the demon realms elite combat group which was basically only second to the Commandments cannot differentiate between magic signatures? And if the Lion Demon guy was referring to Percival why didn't he use his name and called him "that one" instead? Percival is a goddamned folk hero to these people. He saved the demon realm twice. Every man, woman, elder and child should be aware of who Percival is and what he did. He is your effin' king's surrogate son.


Reading this is like putting my head into a vice, how much more favorism can Lancelot get in this narrative, I'm gonna puke

So, if I understand correctly, you're so eager to criticize that you've forgotten that Lance, alongside Gawin, saved the elite squad that had been brainwashed by Carthur?
And this is shown by the one who says it (Ioladion), since she saw the state of her companions. Furthermore, why did Lance also unleash his aura in the demon world against Nanashi?

--- Double Post Merged, Friday at 10:15 PM, Original Post Date: Friday at 10:10 PM ---

You know, I still don't understand why they keep mentioning that Lancelot has more magic than the Demon King.

We already know Lancelot has more magic than anyone else because he literally possesses infinite magic, so it's not like they are saying anything new.

His issue, however, has always been his inability to utilize it because he lacks a Sacred Treasure.

It's a known fact that Lancelot surpassed the Demon King in magic the moment he absorbed the lake at age 10.

But does having more magic mean he can actually beat him in a fight?

Of course not. Without a way to properly utilize that power, his magic remains a completely non-factor in battle.

Here you're confusing magical power and magical reserve. What the demons sense is Lancelot's magical power, which, for them, is superior to the demon king, period. Regarding his infinite reserve, if it automatically granted him infinite magical power, then from the beginning of the story, we would have had the mention that his power is infinite. The story has already distinguished between magical reserve and magical power. If Lancelot simply needed to drink this infinite reserve of magic to reach his prime, then the Lady of the Lake would never have said that he needed several years to complete his glittering path. Furthermore, why would his spear from when he was 10 years old have broken after using magic on it (something that didn't happen)?

 

[Meliodaf]

Convinced Nakaba hates Meliodas and anyone related to him

 

[Demonspeed]

They're probably talking about output magic power.

Just because you have Infinite magic doesn't mean you can output it.

Now fused with Chaos and having a Chaos weapon that can likely allow him to utilize his full infinite magic he can output much higher.

Exactly. Lancelot himself got stronger and stronger. Thanks to the lake he never runs out of magic. With the Chaos buff he got even stronger.

Do yall want to see Chaos Lancelot vs Arthur w Excalibur or rather have Arthur sit this one out?

I want Arthur to do something... Anything.

 

[Capalot98]

Same but with Jericho helping , except Jericho's death seems almost certain , I had hoped she would come and redeem herself.

I still can't believe she died like that without even seeing her corpse.

But hey , it's still possible that Merlin saved her and she's actually here in Liones and the lady of the lake is contacting her in secret.

Thinking Jericho actually survived when it was clear that she died and was ok with accepting her death is one thing but thinking Merlin saved her is another. Sure we saw her save Ban from getting killed by Caths time magic so she isn’t heartless. But why y’all place so much faith in Merlin to save a character she’s had little to no interaction with is beyond me

 

[Demonspeed]

Temu Lancelot saving Jericho with his own Hazy Moon is more believable than Merlin saving her.

 

[kingRoXaS]

Even the most die-hard Lance glazers are starting to get bored with this development. Not necessarily here but even on Reddit some folks who were all ride or die about him until he made that stupid-ass trade with Cath are starting to lose interest.

It is a really bad look. Nakaba sadly fumbled making Lance's decision believable. It lacked any tension or desperation, it comes off as insanely hypocritical especially after he lectured Arthur for his shortcomings. Yes, Arthur made a gross miscalculation and should have gotten the help of the Sins when he started noticing that Cath was getting stronger inside of him. Like, a decade ago. But that was still an honest mistake even if it was desastrous and cost many lifes in the process and created needless misery.

But Lancelot? He knows all this and still decides to throw away the entire world (at least the one we know within the boundaries of the manga) for a girl he dated like three fucking times. Someone so bland she is more a plot device than an actual character with a personality. It is nothing short of AWFUL. How can anyone NOT BE disappointed with any of this. It makes Lancelot incredibly selfish, hypocritical and borderline insane. And yeah sure, one could say "the other 4KotA would've done the same with their significant others in his position". That may be so. But Lancelot is the guy who NEVER lost. He is Mr. Can-do-it-all. The other three are not on his level. There were other ways to go about this. Even if it meant risking Guinevere's life in the process. He didn't have it in his heart to risk it, maybe he would have failed despite all his skill but if anyone could have come up with a way to do it, it would have been Lancelot. No one else could've denied Cath his bargaining chip but he was like "cowabunga it is" and traded in the whole world for it. Because that decision was easier to him than risking the girl. Fine, have it your way. Any piece of misfortune, misery and bad shit that is ever going to come Lancelot's way henceforth - he deserves ALL of it and he should get zero pity. From anyone. If you risk the whole world that easily then living with the consequences of that decision is a forgone conclusion. Ain't no-one got the right to cry foul play for whatever shit he has coming. And I hope he will get it good at the end of it all. It will be cathartic.

Perfectly expressed, friend. I'm questioning if I continue to look up for any nakaba work after this. But I guess he will make up sequels for his golden goose

 

[Killerbee12]

Perfectly expressed, friend. I'm questioning if I continue to look up for any nakaba work after this. But I guess he will make up sequels for his golden goose

We already kno nakaba fumbles, then he throw us a fire arc. Then some bullshit. He been doin that since 2012 my guy. Think bout it after only 3 sins defeated all the Ten Commandments. He deliver with one of the best arcs in the series the king and Diane 3000 year old holy war. Let b real, let nakaba cook

 

[Yakkun]

Perfectly expressed, friend. I'm questioning if I continue to look up for any nakaba work after this. But I guess he will make up sequels for his golden goose

I hope he goes back to making something else after this. A smaller series again. Maybe I'll read that if I'm still interested. Right now I'm not even sure I still care about 4KotA for real or if its just my OCD keeping me going to finish it.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Wait a second, there's something very important that we might have missed.

The final battle against Chaos Lancelot most likely didn't happen in Britannia, because Galahad and the others have never heard of it.

In fact, neither they nor any of the citizens from Liones and Camelot currently staying in Liones know anything about "Chaos Lancelot." in the future.

If you remember, the Demon King's fight against the Seven Deadly Sins was incredibly famous because it took place in Britannia.

It was on a massive scale too , so everyone knew about it. In contrast, absolutely no one has heard of Lancelot going evil.

This suggests that the battle against Chaos Lancelot didn't take place in Britannia at all. If I had to guess, it happened in the Demon Realm.

I also just don't see Nakaba taking us to the Celestial or Fairy Realms before fully revealing them to us.

--- Double Post Merged, Saturday at 11:33 AM, Original Post Date: Saturday at 11:11 AM ---

Oh, and there's something else.

We thought the prophecy about the 4KOTA destroying the world was talking about Chaos Camelot, but Lancelot destroyed that realm all by himself.

This means the prophecy wasn't about Chaos Camelot, but rather the actual world; the 4KOTA will bring about its end one way or another.

And Galahad did say the world was different after this "Incident".

If I had to guess, it's referring to Cath's death, which will result in Chaos being revealed as the final villain.

This is because Chaos is the one who would actually end the previous world to create a new one—one where non-humans don't exist in Britannia and are completely separated.

Therefore, by defeating Cath, the 4KOTA will inadvertently free Chaos, causing the destruction of the world in the process.

 

[Yakkun]

Just give me the multiverse, Nakaba. Then at least we can blame everything on the Kongou, lol