Chapter Tower of God Spin-Off: Urek Mazino Chapter 70 Spoilers & Discussion

[Shiinhye1]

It's been a pleasure to join you all through the end of the spin-off; I hope we'll see each other again when TOG returns.

 

[Ray Barracuda]

FUG is not delusional either. Maschenny said that they just recently became bolder, acted "weird". Simply because they not only have an irregular now, but it has V in it.

You guys just look at Yama and White and assume FUG is bag of shit xD

To be honest Maschenny's statements and everything else including Hwa Ryun constantly beating us in the head over with hints was the obvious build up that V was close which we already knew.

V and now potentially Arlene even though that plan has gone sideways by the sheer existence of Mago.

But outside of this particular individual of V and Baam with the complete Thorn, they're really an entirely delusional organization.

Revos really have actual credibility as of now and the firepower to actually engage in combat with the FH's, kill them even actually because the Shinies are extra immortal even to Irregulars.

 

[Strange]

All I would say is match up matters a lot. Blossoms flame no not even flame but a spark destroyed thousands of Ruptures instantly but when it clashed with Traumerei's animals, it wasn't able to destroy it like it did with Rupture. Doesn't mean Traumerei's animals are far stronger than Rupture?

Traumereis animals are regenerating always 24/7/365 and there is no limit for that until traumerei is alive , and traumereis disconnection is just a ball that gets destroyed and then never regenerates cuz it is just a shinsoo not a flesh unlike traumereis monsters and it was said in that fight also .

eurasias flame has the same power spark of no spark doesn't matter power is power .

and i have showed you urek destryoing that same spell when he was going against V .

You shall follow story my friend otherwise it makes less sense to consider your opinions time to time , and i will say you make some good points time to time but not always cuz you miss things time to time


Rupture without regnerating is more powerful than trauemreis monsters surely but problem is rupture cannot regenerate cuz it is powe rnot a flesh that has a regeneration .

For example if a guardian gets hit by disconnection and he will not swallow that he (Guardian) will die also cuz guardians aren't immune to shinsoo as ppl think , they are immune cuz they control shinsoo/take that thing away otherwise i.e enryu killed a guardian using shinsoo (if that guy isn't a shining one) and there is no such rule that regular cannot kill a guardian with a thorn for example or with a shinsoo you just need to go against them and their ability that controls shinsoo so they are apex of the shinsoo world way beyond than any fh can ever achieve with a technology or with a jewel .

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eurasias flame has the same power spark of no spark doesn't matter power is power .

And will give you an analogy "When mago vs eduan " happened eduan have said that "Light" is dangerous which means if mago could shine at floor level eduan would die as an ant not cuz light is powerful but only because Shinsoo wouldn't save his ass cuz light would overshadow shinsoo at that time and eduan wouldn't be able to hide anywhere so that automatically means that power is power but in that case eduan wouldn't be able do any shit to it .


So if eduan got hit by it he'd be fried chicken right now but since it didn't hit him he is completely fine but if he got with floor level shiny light then he'd be fried as a chicken cuz simply shinsoo cannot save his ass , it couldn't save his ass despite being in shinsoo world itself light could still kill him there but his ass saved cuz mago cannot shine there at floor level but when she regains her power you can see here



and take that as an example how big mago could shine then and what would happen to eduan and every being on that floor if mago could use that level light LOL

that is star level at least planet level if not galaxy LOL but lets sink that , so if that light hit to one floor hihi that'd be fun LOL

so eurasias flame is small and it canot do much not cuz its not powerful but it cannot do everything only because its small and traumereis animals always getting regenerated

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seems i cannot post imgur for some reason

 

[maverickframe_19]

FUG is not delusional either. Maschenny said that they just recently became bolder, acted "weird". Simply because they not only have an irregular now, but it has V in it.

You guys just look at Yama and White and assume FUG is bag of shit xD

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Almost all he did was spells, except his flower (forget the spell name) punch and direct punch against Urek.

And transformation my ass xD he just had his cloth teared a bit .

Luslec is so cool man, Urek will not have his aura

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His powers are based on shinsu, not darkness. The thing he talked about darkness was a figure of speech. Like how FUG operates in shadows. And him being the head is that darkness which let FUG roam.

I don't necessarily agree; his dark change didn't look to me like a shinshoo change. In fact, it was a spell to me that imbued him with the power of darkness. Which, to be honest, makes much more sense since he's Arlene's disciple. Arlene's son is called Night, and allegedly, in my perfect theory, Arlene prayed to an outside god, which is darkness itself, who created this tower (which is a dark place, in Urek's own words).
You may choose to ignore these subtle hints from SIU, but I won't. So all in all we can all go in circles here. But your point to me is that 3D disconnection won't work on shiny ones; I just don't see it.

 

[white_light]

I love Urek but Luslec absolutely aura mogged him

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

I don't necessarily agree; his dark change didn't look to me like a shinshoo change. In fact, it was a spell to me that imbued him with the power of darkness. Which, to be honest, makes much more sense since he's Arlene's disciple. Arlene's son is called Night, and allegedly, in my perfect theory, Arlene prayed to an outside god, which is darkness itself, who created this tower (which is a dark place, in Urek's own words).
You may choose to ignore these subtle hints from SIU, but I won't. So all in all we can all go in circles here. But your point to me is that 3D disconnection won't work on shiny ones; I just don't see it.

If OG were darkness, his messenger, Enryu would be using darkness power not shinsu. Besides UM said Spells originates from incomplete side of the world, tower isn't a complete world. It's like a secret realm in a cultivation sense.

So, spells are based on shinsu, otherwise UM would have definitely identified the darkness. Like that thistle attack it feed on shinsu. We have seen both L and D is independent of shinsu.

We haven't seen GWs much less towerborn use any power outside of shinsu. If it were a foreign power, GWs would have been wary of him like Edahn and Shin were of Baek. But Gussy treated him kike a bug.

Besides that Mirchea would have been able to kill Jahad and FLs because the power of darkness is not something guardians regulate. The reason why towerborns are restricted is because they can only use shinsu.

 

[maverickframe_19]

If OG were darkness, his messenger, Enryu would be using darkness power not shinsu.

If my dad is a mechanic, it doesn't mean I'll also use tools for the rest of my life. But it also doesn't mean I am not good at it. If the tower was created by darkness, it would also make sense for his messenger, Enryu, to use 9000 bangs from the get-go.

Besides UM said Spells originates from incomplete side of the world, tower isn't a complete world. It's like a secret realm in a cultivation sense. So, spells are based on shinsu, otherwise UM would have definitely identified the darkness.

This again is a hypothesis. The realm that is uncharted is always dark and without light, just like our space. Tower is a world in itself. We can also say it exists in a dimension that belongs to that incomplete side of the world, no? How would Urek know? He followed Phanta and ended up here. It's not like Tower's exact locations were marked in his GPS or something.
You're giving Urek an awful lot of grace here. In all his fights, he may be smart-ass, but why does he always end up with an outcome that isn't favorable to him or his original intention?
Urek is like me. He makes shit up as he goes along. It doesn't mean he doesn't know about Phanta or spells, but it sure as shit doesn't mean he knows all about Darkness as an entity, how his power works, what his intention was, or about the first being to ever exist in this whole world SIU has made up for us.

Spell is something I definitely think don't needs shin-shoo as it's fuel. Otherwise Luslec wouldn't be able to stall Urek for the time he did stall him.
People forget, he got Urek 3 times with the same spell. LOL. But whatever, man, like I said, I don't necessarily agree with your take here.

 

[arrowofsky]

This seems to be a time where we need to elaborate on "shinsoo attacks" and stuff. Something impacting shinsoo does not mean that it solely works thanks to it, even shinsoo around Urek reacted to his light while he was first encountering Danjon. Floral butterfly is definitely shinsoo related, but I can't say the same for spells, like keeping the corpse of Baam somehow not decaying, Hoaqin and siblings to a single White etc.
At the end of the day, you can move water with a ladle, ladle itself does not need water to work though, it just 'guides' it.
Maybe SIU himself will clarify about spells in a separate arc.

 

[Strange]

spells

Spells ? to cast a spell you need a power so where do you get a power ? can you tell me ? dont tell me that spells do exist outside of shinsoo, that'd be too dumb even for TOG

Spells is a product of the tower , outside we have light and darkness and neither darkness nor light give us a spells as you imagine .

to cast a spell you need a fuel to cast it.

so from where luslec will get a fuel without shinsoo ? dont tell me that luslec has another kind of power that'd be dumbest thing, and luslec himself is a puny towerborn so explain us where luslec will get a fuel to cast a spell without a shinsoo if spell is something different ?

you seem like to think about spells that is something great yet spell is a still shinsoo based/derived , Immortality is a spell and it has nothing to do with darkness or anything like that . spells do exists in this tower cuz we have shinsoo . On the 43th floor every FH are mortals cause there is no one who holds immortality spell there, cuz it is managed by guardians .


Mecseth was using spell even before any enryu was even mentioned or even arlene prayed to so called god on the outside that is freaking pentaminum and it was said that OUTSIDE GOD is pentaminum that ruled entire universe / reality or whatever crap is on the outside .

So he(Mecseth) casted spells ten trillion times maybe in the past, and i dont get where you are getting such ideas that spell is something special when it doesn't exist without a fuel i.e Shinsoo .

For example i can say that mago casted a spell when she gave To Leo power and to kill him urek needed his like to evaporate darkness that is a spell far beyond than what Even Fhs have and i can give you an analogy when gustang lost his arm to traumereis disconnection LOL and couldn't even regenerate it . so mago can cast a spell and give blessings to others cuz mago does have such power and luslec doesn't have any power outside of shinsoo .

spell itself doesn't exist as you imagine it, cause you need fuel and fuel in this tower is shinsooo .



as for baby baams body you are exaggerating and overthinking too much , baam is a freaking byproduct of shinsoo and someone may give arlene to that spell or teach to her for example mecseth that can even make a weapon that is capable to ressurect gustang and the guy lost his entire head yet he could regenerate it using that weapon yet without that gustang lost to the same power his arm and it never recovered as if he never had it LOL


and arlene was inside of this tower with baam and in this tower she could cast some spell to save body surely i have no problem with it with shinsoo you can make many things and not a problem here . but saying like spell is something special idk it makes no sense .


so for me to make a spell that can regenerate your entire head is more special than saving some dead body from a decay LOL even hell gustang is proficient in spells yet even he cannot regenerate his hand that was destroyed by the same spell yet mecseth had make a thing that regenerated his entire head but (immortality spell couldn't save or help gustang to regenerate his hand nor gustang hismelf could do anything) so mecseth is proficient in spells surely and mecseth is far older than arlene or any gw and the moment gws were climbing mecseth was freaking old maybe zilliard years old

so following the logic it makes zero sense to even say that "oh stopping body from a decay is something special and only arlene could do it LOL" yet mecseth helped gustang to regenerate his entire head "that literally killed him there ", cuz after that he lost the arm to that same ability yet he cannot regenerate it at all . and without his head gustang is considered a dead even if he wasn't really dead yet he was


Spell thing and that concept existed in TUS cuz axisers on the outside could give blessings to people that is a spell also cuz those guys have had fuels in them (i.e power) . so spell thing isn't something related to anything but to shinsoo (i mean spells casted by Towerborns or by GWs cuz neither of them do have any ounce of power outside of shinsoo)

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Spells yeah



I hope you guys dont think that towerborns can live on the outside without shinsoo supporting them LOL

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Nice joke

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A Fish cannot leave the water without dying LOL

 

[arrowofsky]

Spells ? to cast a spell you need a power so where do you get a power ? can you tell me ? dont tell me that spells do exist outside of shinsoo, that'd be too dumb even for TOG

Spells is a product of the tower , outside we have light and darkness and neither darkness nor light give us a spells as you imagine .

to cast a spell you need a fuel to cast it.

so from where luslec will get a fuel without shinsoo ? dont tell me that luslec has another kind of power that'd be dumbest thing, and luslec himself is a puny towerborn so explain us where luslec will get a fuel to cast a spell without a shinsoo if spell is something different ?

you seem like to think about spells that is something great yet spell is a still shinsoo based/derived , Immortality is a spell and it has nothing to do with darkness or anything like that . spells do exists in this tower cuz we have shinsoo . On the 43th floor every FH are mortals cause there is no one who holds immortality spell there, cuz it is managed by guardians .


Mecseth was using spell even before any enryu was even mentioned or even arlene prayed to so called god on the outside that is freaking pentaminum and it was said that OUTSIDE GOD is pentaminum that ruled entire universe / reality or whatever crap is on the outside .

So he(Mecseth) casted spells ten trillion times maybe in the past, and i dont get where you are getting such ideas that spell is something special when it doesn't exist without a fuel i.e Shinsoo .

For example i can say that mago casted a spell when she gave To Leo power and to kill him urek needed his like to evaporate darkness that is a spell far beyond than what Even Fhs have and i can give you an analogy when gustang lost his arm to traumereis disconnection LOL and couldn't even regenerate it . so mago can cast a spell and give blessings to others cuz mago does have such power and luslec doesn't have any power outside of shinsoo .

spell itself doesn't exist as you imagine it, cause you need fuel and fuel in this tower is shinsooo .



as for baby baams body you are exaggerating and overthinking too much , baam is a freaking byproduct of shinsoo and someone may give arlene to that spell or teach to her for example mecseth that can even make a weapon that is capable to ressurect gustang and the guy lost his entire head yet he could regenerate it using that weapon yet without that gustang lost to the same power his arm and it never recovered as if he never had it LOL


and arlene was inside of this tower with baam and in this tower she could cast some spell to save body surely i have no problem with it with shinsoo you can make many things and not a problem here . but saying like spell is something special idk it makes no sense .


so for me to make a spell that can regenerate your entire head is more special than saving some dead body from a decay LOL even hell gustang is proficient in spells yet even he cannot regenerate his hand that was destroyed by the same spell yet mecseth had make a thing that regenerated his entire head but (immortality spell couldn't save or help gustang to regenerate his hand nor gustang hismelf could do anything) so mecseth is proficient in spells surely and mecseth is far older than arlene or any gw and the moment gws were climbing mecseth was freaking old maybe zilliard years old

so following the logic it makes zero sense to even say that "oh stopping body from a decay is something special and only arlene could do it LOL" yet mecseth helped gustang to regenerate his entire head "that literally killed him there ", cuz after that he lost the arm to that same ability yet he cannot regenerate it at all . and without his head gustang is considered a dead even if he wasn't really dead yet he was


Spell thing and that concept existed in TUS cuz axisers on the outside could give blessings to people that is a spell also cuz those guys have had fuels in them (i.e power) . so spell thing isn't something related to anything but to shinsoo (i mean spells casted by Towerborns or by GWs cuz neither of them do have any ounce of power outside of shinsoo)

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Spells yeah



I hope you guys dont think that towerborns can live on the outside without shinsoo supporting them LOL

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Nice joke

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A Fish cannot leave the water without dying LOL

Just imagine yourself randomly waking up at 4:30, for fun check the MH forum, and see this...
Dude we talked about this before a lot, just make a tl dr post. It is impossible for me to read this for days.

 

[Strange]

Just imagine yourself randomly waking up at 4:30, for fun check the MH forum, and see this...
Dude we talked about this before a lot, just make a tl dr post. It is impossible for me to read this for days.

Hello there, hope you doing well friend

just sayin' Spells do not work as you think of them

Would love to see anyone posting for me things like i do, yet no one does cuz either they are lazy or they dont have enogh knowledge to give me some counter-arguments and i haven't seen a guy to give any contradiction whatever i am posting here LOL

 

[arrowofsky]

Hello there, hope you doing well friend

just sayin' Spells do not work as you think of them

Would love to see anyone posting for me things like i do, yet no one does cuz either they are lazy or they dont have enogh knowledge to give me some counter-arguments and i haven't seen a guy to give any contradiction whatever i am posting here LOL

Doin' good thanks how do you do?

Ok for instance, how do explain hoaqin siblings becoming White with shinsoo, like consuming people and using their essence in attacks etc? So let's just talk about the obvious case.