Games Mafia Game 144 - Pan the Diver - Night 5 (180m)

[Copy Panda]

D6 VOTES

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DAY DURATION

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[Tatsumaki]

But if everyone piles on that we'll have to rethink this.

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 6:19 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 6:19 PM ---

Yes yes thank you arrow

 

[arrowofsky]

@Tatsumaki I did not see your response first there sorry. But it has been good for me to see some minor details there for a reread.

 

[Copy Panda]

~16h left. slow day. if a majority of players lock votes to the point the outcome of the day cant be changed, the day can end earlier

 

[arrowofsky]

!votelock Kakoha

@Marmalade @Copy Panda voted.^^

 

[Kakoha]

But if everyone piles on that we'll have to rethink this.

says that right after piling (voting) on me
welp anyways

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 8:27 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 8:23 PM ---

arrow locked so that leaves @SirSamuel016 @Lumii?! and @Tatsumaki with a chance to save the game
I don't have much hope honestly in the game, but maybe we can still save this somehow ?

the 2 that locked on me are mafia, who's the third ? idk,probably tatsu ? could also be lumiii as far as I'm concerned but tatsu gave me bigger red flags, we might need to dig deeper for those 2, but I say we lynch nash and arrow first and then hope we get better info the next days

 

[arrowofsky]

A reminder to everyone:
Klaus were to kill 2 townie, but thanks to the confirmed town person Vali I survived and we only had one lose. I am an obvious town person, and Kakoha directly admitted trying to block my action today. Even not considering whimsical votes on me yesterday, it should be obvious already. We need to deal him first and this will reduce mafia number to two, then, tomorrow we can comfortably think.

We already past the point of elaborate analysis for Kakoha.

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 8:33 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 8:32 PM ---

Yeah he even talks about lynching me now thanks for making this very easy for me Kakoha.

 

[Kakoha]

and Kakoha directly admitted trying to block my action today

ur making that sound like a scum move lol

we have already said there's also hider in the equation, stop hiding behind that vali thing
also, I still can't see you proving I'm mafia in that post, you're just trying your best (and failing) to prove you're town.

We already past the point of elaborate analysis for Kakoha.

right, no need for analysis arrow, you're winning already

hey since you're town, can you explain why mafia did not save stylether by voting you yesterday ? c'mon tell me. you're not even a bomb claimer, what made mafia so scared of just simply pulling the trigger on you ?
anyways, as long as townies switched on you or nash, we should be good, so don't celebrate early

 

[Tatsumaki]

So you're accusing us (Lumii and me) to be mafia yet telling us to vote with you, to save you today...so you can campaign to lynch us tomorrow ?

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 8:53 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 8:51 PM ---

We're still missing Dego's vote and pom's vote too

 

[Kakoha]

So you're accusing us (Lumii and me) to be mafia yet telling us to vote with you, to save you today...so you can campaign to lynch us tomorrow ?

this is mafia game, no hard feelings, I'm just trying my best to solve the game. don't tell me you're gonna vote me as a revenge for sussing you Xp

 

[Tatsumaki]

no worries I ain't petty like that

 

[Natasha]

I wonder if it's near guaranteed I'm insane at 150-200

--- Double Post Merged, Yesterday at 11:49 PM, Original Post Date: Yesterday at 11:44 PM ---

5x Kako - Sam #1377, Lumi #1394, Nash #1432 #1448, Tatsu #1479, Arrow #1378 #1484
1x Nash - Kakoha #1447

Also, this is lock-winnable for mafia if they somehow have noble.

We've not been at this depth before so you never know. Pomcha should join us on Kako.

 

[Lady pompom]

Votekill Kakoha

I really think we should be on dego’s cade tomorrow though. Will post my thoughts later. If Kakoha hadn’t openly distrusted arrow who was more green thanks to Vali helping confirm him in a sense, then I’d have given him pause.

 

[arrowofsky]

I am not entering any discussion that still trying to doubt my town status as it is against the 2nd law of thermodynamics at this point, beyond the doubt you would have at this game.
As a result, i am not entitled to give reasons on why i had 4 votes on me yesterday, why one of them so early locked on kakoha today etc. Voters themselves should explain.
I would have liked to discuss if kakoha was town or dego and stuff but sorry i am a bit bored if some people still expect me that i may be mafia. I am exhausted, in fact. I will just see what will happen day end or if early end trigger's.

All the best for you all.

 

[SirSamuel016]

From my perspective its myself, Arrow, Lumi, and after the PM result dilemma, Nash that probably have to be town?

Kako, Tatsu, dego, and Pom are the remaining mafia candidates. dego is a guarantee but we have to leave him to last. The rest is a bit hairier but a mafia blocker from the get-go makes more sense I think + Mazi's day 1 in retrospect had him shading Gry and myself which imo makes MazOha (Mazi X Kakoha) red.

Tatsu v Pom is the other headache that we need to figure out.

 

[Lady pompom]

From my perspective its myself, Arrow, Lumi, and after the PM result dilemma, Nash that probably have to be town?

Kako, Tatsu, dego, and Pom are the remaining mafia candidates. dego is a guarantee but we have to leave him to last. The rest is a bit hairier but a mafia blocker from the get-go makes more sense I think + Mazi's day 1 in retrospect had him shading Gry and myself which imo makes MazOha (Mazi X Kakoha) red.

Tatsu v Pom is the other headache that we need to figure out.

How am I in the same block as Tatsu? I literally avoided switching to arrow yesterday and a mafia got lynched. I have clearly said results, confirmed a townie Natasha. What else is this if not town behavior? Sam, stop trying to sus me, this just makes you look worse in suspect list.

--- Double Post Merged, Today at 5:30 AM, Original Post Date: Today at 5:24 AM ---

On the other hand, you Sam seem to be rushing to end the day, so we have less time to discuss mafia candidates. Why?

 

[Degojaru]

Votekill Tatsu
Do whatever you all find better, if somehow Kako is mafia, we'll lose tomorrow with my mislynch, right? Also I'm tired of trying to you changing seeing me as red.

--- Double Post Merged, Today at 5:32 AM, Original Post Date: Today at 5:31 AM ---

On the other hand, you Sam seem to be rushing to end the day, so we have less time to discuss mafia candidates. Why?

Because he's the mafia among bomb trio...

 

[SirSamuel016]

On the other hand, you Sam seem to be rushing to end the day, so we have less time to discuss mafia candidates. Why?

If I was rushing I would've already locked no? Weird and poorly thought out shading from uou

--- Double Post Merged, Today at 5:43 AM, Original Post Date: Today at 5:43 AM ---

*you

Fat fingering my new phone how u doin

--- Double Post Merged, Today at 5:45 AM ---

Because he's the mafia among bomb trio...

Again, why would I have lynched Styl at all if I was mafia? There is no logic to the accusations from you and Pom

 

[Degojaru]

If I was rushing I would've already locked no? Weird and poorly thought out shading from uou

Again, why would I have lynched Styl at all if I was mafia? There is no logic to the accusations from you and Pom

I think you know how to play to avoid people sussing on you
Also u had opinions without logic too so whatever.

--- Double Post Merged, Today at 5:58 AM, Original Post Date: Today at 5:53 AM ---

The only reason u keep being green and me red, it's because I'm too dumb to make strong claims, this is a result of my own low-skill

--- Double Post Merged, Today at 5:59 AM ---

So congrats, you will win today or tomorrow and people will still believing that you're townie

 

[SirSamuel016]

How am I in the same block as Tatsu? I literally avoided switching to arrow yesterday and a mafia got lynched. I have clearly said results, confirmed a townie Natasha. What else is this if not town behavior? Sam, stop trying to sus me, this just makes you look worse in suspect list.

Process of elimination.

1. As loathe as I am to use the Cocaine Cub's slip-up as evidence, that confirms Nash as town given she got a result that she shouldn't have had.

2. I trust Arrow here. Late to the me v dego square-off but his two defuser uses fall in-line with my defuser and bomb positions so to me that reads as legitimate.

3. Following that logic, that directly implicates dego as the mafia bomb. He never said his exact order until after I had in order to try and shake me after I had him correctly identified as mafia bomb Day 1. The nail in his coffin is his bomb position claim. Dego says his bomb is at 0-50m, so no one has a bomb at 51-100m metres yet there are two defusers for it??? Conclusion: Dego is lying.

4. Lumi has... an interesting role claim set. However I think banshee is largely believeable in this set-up where so much can go wrong. Given bombs in that range, banshee as an extra killing power to factor in seems legit.

5. MazOha the block claimer... Maf having the blocker mskes sense to stop the M!Bomb (Dego) from getting defused on top of dealing with other town roles that could be an issue. Mazi was shading Gry early as well as me, and then d4 Kako on top of that just looks off. Highly likely maf blocker.

That leaves me with you two, Pom and Tatsu to figure out. One must be red, but which?

--- Double Post Merged, Today at 6:17 AM, Original Post Date: Today at 6:01 AM ---

I think you know how to play to avoid people sussing on you
Also u had opinions without logic too so whatever.

I play how I play regardless of the suspicion it may attract

I went out on a limb very early thinking I identified you, and unfortunately for you, I was bang on the money that you are Mafia's Bomb & Bomb Defuser. You're a new player so don't take it too hard, but you're mafia's pygmy shark while I am town's motherfucking megalodon.

My advice for you going forward would be this:
1. Consider the information you share carefully. Your unique pattern is what let me as town defuser smell blood in the water.
2. If you're going to effectively fight off someone who is suspecting you, be clear and deliberate with why their perception is wrong in your eyes. The more concrete and reasonable it sounds, the more you can be believable to people. Your big flaw here was rushing into changing your bomb position claim because arrow's existence fully exposed your lie; that is how the cookie crumbles sometimes but life is all about learning.

 

[Degojaru]

I went out on a limb very early thinking I identified you, and unfortunately for you, I was bang on the money that you are Mafia's Bomb & Bomb Defuser. You're a new player so don't take it too hard, but you're mafia's pygmy shark while I am town's motherfucking megalodon.

megalodon clownfish

My advice for you going forward would be this:
1. Consider the information you share carefully. Your unique pattern is what let me as town defuser smell blood in the water.
2. If you're going to effectively fight off someone who is suspecting you, be clear and deliberate with why their perception is wrong in your eyes. The more concrete and reasonable it sounds, the more you can be believable to people. Your big flaw here was rushing into changing your bomb position claim because arrow's existence fully exposed your lie; that is how the cookie crumbles sometimes but life is all about learning.

Okay, ty for the tips