Chapter Mokushiroku no Yonkishi Chapter 259 Spoilers & Discussion

[Covers]

What if Jericho, Zeldris deads are all fake out except for maybe Ban.

 

[Demonspeed]

I think Jericho is alive but with that dream sequence Zel is definitely dead.

Maybe he can be brought back thanks to LS shenanigans or something however.

 

[Capalot98]

What if Jericho, Zeldris deads are all fake out except for maybe Ban.

I’m fine with Nakaba brining back Ban and Zeldris but please for the love of God keep Jericho dead. She adds nothing to the story and we gotta have Lancelot regret something once this is over

 

[kkck]

No? For one he is the antagonist, so he will be defeated.

More like, eventually "some bullshit" will save his sorry ass from his idiocy.

 

[tdtd1234]

More like, eventually "some bullshit" will save his sorry ass from his idiocy.

It's not going to be "some bullshit", it's going to be the grail weapons, that were meant to remove chaos from a person from the start.

Edit: Or another theory that I like is that Ban will use snatch to take Cath and chaos from Lancelot.

 

[kingRoXaS]

It's only downhill from here, right?

 

[kkck]

It's not going to be "some bullshit", it's going to be the grail weapons, that were meant to remove chaos from a person from the start.

Edit: Or another theory that I like is that Ban will use snatch to take Cath and chaos from Lancelot.

When was it said the weapons could remove chaos? The framing around them was that they would have the capacity to kill cath, a being whose nature never included the capacity to die.

 

[tdtd1234]

When was it said the weapons could remove chaos? The framing around them was that they would have the capacity to kill cath, a being whose nature never included the capacity to die.

It's most clear in chapter 252, where they say the weapons can dispel Chaos.

 

[kkck]

It's most clear in chapter 252, where they say the weapons can dispel Chaos.

And the next chapter dubs says all the blood can do is restrain chaos and that in the end they'd have to fight pantscelot themselves. The manga is in no way consistent in what the blood actually does or how it helps.

 

[Capalot98]

It's most clear in chapter 252, where they say the weapons can dispel Chaos.

Dubs said it best himself, he said the weapons made from the holy grail would help counter chaos but the knights would still have to do their part and fight Lancelot too. So it’s clear the weapons alone aren’t gonna save or beat him and the 3 knights themselves will also have to be strong enough to fight Lancelot. Now how Nakaba is gonna write this training their getting as being enough to suddenly fight chaos Lancelot when they wouldn’t even have been able to fight regular Lancelot is gonna be interesting to see

 

[tdtd1234]

And the next chapter dubs says all the blood can do is restrain chaos and that in the end they'd have to fight pantscelot themselves. The manga is in no way consistent in what the blood actually does or how it helps.

The implication is that they can't just hit Catcelot and expect it to be enough and will have to beat him to remove chaos properly.

 

[Yakkun]

What if Jericho, Zeldris deads are all fake out except for maybe Ban.

Then its shit. The only thing worse than a writer who kills his characters in a shitty way is the one who can't commit to his own shit writing.

 

[Covers]

Wonder why Eli still has that SD outfit? What if she is now perm a goddess and can handle her SD form now?

 

[OtakuFreak]

Wonder why Eli still has that SD outfit? What if she is now perm a goddess and can handle her SD form now?

It's the same outfit she had on before she went into her SD form?

 

[Covers]

It's the same outfit she had on before she went into her SD form?

You're right lol.

 

[kkck]

The implication is that they can't just hit Catcelot and expect it to be enough and will have to beat him to remove chaos properly.

I don't think that's the right read there. Remove chaos? Pantscelot is under a contract with chaos, a primordial omnipotent force. He isn't merely cursed like meliodas and elizabeth were. There's no destroying or erasing chaos. In the original setting it took two divine beings with the capacity to rule over life and death to merely bind it. Even if chaos was bound again I don't see the contract going anywhere. I doubt even killing cath would do a damn thing to the contract. The way I see it there are two scenarios that kinda somewhat make some shred of sense. Not much and they are not even good scenarios but it's the best I've come up with:

1.- The contract is fulfilled but the 4 knights of the APOCALYPSE and the seven deadly sins navigate the contract's fine print to "destroy the world" so there's something left of it. Which allows the knights of the grail to exist.

2.- We get another "cHaOs Is cOnTrAdIcToRy" nonsense and a bunch of incoherent, unpredictable unearned nonsense happens which leads to the world being saved.

 

[tdtd1234]

I don't think that's the right read there. Remove chaos? Pantscelot is under a contract with chaos, a primordial omnipotent force. He isn't merely cursed like meliodas and elizabeth were. There's no destroying or erasing chaos. In the original setting it took two divine beings with the capacity to rule over life and death to merely bind it. Even if chaos was bound again I don't see the contract going anywhere. I doubt even killing cath would do a damn thing to the contract. The way I see it there are two scenarios that kinda somewhat make some shred of sense. Not much and they are not even good scenarios but it's the best I've come up with:

1.- The contract is fulfilled but the 4 knights of the APOCALYPSE and the seven deadly sins navigate the contract's fine print to "destroy the world" so there's something left of it. Which allows the knights of the grail to exist.

2.- We get another "cHaOs Is cOnTrAdIcToRy" nonsense and a bunch of incoherent, unpredictable unearned nonsense happens which leads to the world being saved.

I mean remove it from Lancelot, not destroy it.

 

[Mountain-Photo-165]

Hmmm, I think I have an Idea on how Ban will get possessed to save Lancelot.

Lancelot will manage to hold himself back, giving the 3KOTA a clean hit with their Chaos-suppressing weapons.

This will allow them to kill Cath, but it will kill Lancelot's as well.

To save his son, Ban makes a deal with Cath to leave Lancelot's body and take over his instead.

I picture the scene with Ban holding Lancelot in his arms, whispering to Cath to possess him instead of his son or he will die by the 3KOTA weapons.

 

[kkck]

I mean remove it from Lancelot, not destroy it.

Not really a significant difference. The most likely scenario remains that the contract cannot ever be voided.

 

[Yakkun]

I don't think that's the right read there. Remove chaos? Pantscelot is under a contract with chaos, a primordial omnipotent force. He isn't merely cursed like meliodas and elizabeth were. There's no destroying or erasing chaos. In the original setting it took two divine beings with the capacity to rule over life and death to merely bind it. Even if chaos was bound again I don't see the contract going anywhere. I doubt even killing cath would do a damn thing to the contract. The way I see it there are two scenarios that kinda somewhat make some shred of sense. Not much and they are not even good scenarios but it's the best I've come up with:

1.- The contract is fulfilled but the 4 knights of the APOCALYPSE and the seven deadly sins navigate the contract's fine print to "destroy the world" so there's something left of it. Which allows the knights of the grail to exist.

2.- We get another "cHaOs Is cOnTrAdIcToRy" nonsense and a bunch of incoherent, unpredictable unearned nonsense happens which leads to the world being saved.

It's 2. Definitely 2.