Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1197 Spoiler Discussion

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Folks, my prediction came true (sorta). Jinbei is likely the spear.

We are likely going to see Luffy summon his own set of Nika weapons and shield. This would conclude his final awakening imo.
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Original Nika had three main weapons: a sword, a shield and a spear. If those aren’t symbolic (like Zoro is the sword, Sanji is the shield etc) then we should see those weapons materialize soon enough.
 

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Yeah, I don't know why oda never put any emphasis on sanji using hardening. With pretty much everyone else it's overwhelmingly obvious. It feels like a diservice to sanji that we never saw him overtly use what seems like a mid level skill at best.

I don't take issue with sanji using haki to protect himself from his fire. We have seen haki being used to resist magma. What strikes me as odd is using emission for it. Mechanically it doesn't make sense to me.
We saw Sanji using hardening, especially in Egg Head where he was wearing a shorts. But hes usually wearing black pants so we have no visual indication. Just people mentioning that hes using haki. Damn Sanji finally stepped up to Zorro. What a chapter.
 

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*your not gonna hit me anymore"
and then proceeds to get launhced awy after destroying the spear? Only if that moment had not been there, then this would have been awesome display. Still unsure how the color of the flames work, but are they saying its like the purple-black flame of fiction?
So in the end he is the Shield not the Spear. Sanji finally has reached this stage. He wont accept his germa body, but it seems to tell he wont have to, he jsut needed to accept himself. maybe he is still growing. but if these mutation are no longer optional then what can he do about that? It still feels like he needs to make peace with something more.
 

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So now Sanji's can get his black coc even harder? jeeeesusssssfffkkk
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Worstgen explanation!?
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So now Sanji's can get his black coc even harder? jeeeesusssssfffkkk
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Worstgen explanation!?
Ok.. so he not only got conquerors.. he Got:

Advanced conquerors...

+ Enhanced Flames

+ Armor Haki upgraded by the earlier.

So killingham got hit with a mixture of everething.. Acoc to Hurt Regen.. + Insane Armor to break everething on his path + Flames.
 

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We saw Sanji using hardening, especially in Egg Head where he was wearing a shorts. But hes usually wearing black pants so we have no visual indication. Just people mentioning that hes using haki. Damn Sanji finally stepped up to Zorro. What a chapter.
We did? I feel like I'd remember that. I remember him kicking light but not an overt showing of armament.
 

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Guess both Killingham and Sommers will be done for by next chapter. Also yeah, I didn't expected Sanji to get power up for both his flames and haki too. I wonder what color they are now. Normaly they are red, in "ifrit" they are blue and now what, purple?, white?, both blue and white due to "purity"? Anyway, so Sanji destroyed one of Imu weapons? If so that would be really cool because it could make him little bit weaker. Mayby Zoro will end up destroying Gram too. If Imu will lose two of his weapons it will be kinda funny because HE was the one who decided to lend them to two overconfident bums. Mayby THAT will finally teach him that his end is approaching rapidly and he can't stop it anymore. He also shouldn't have ignored Roger because he started all of this at day of his execution. He came too early but he sended countless pirats to the seas so at some point someone had to be "the chosen one". It seems like Imu was too comfy on his "empty" throne to notice anything.
 

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It makes me wonder who tf will the revolutionary army fight, because it can’t be these holy knights
I mean, you still need CoC to beat them and the RA isn’t exactly stacked with people who can use it. They’ve got Dragon, probably Sabo, and possibly Iva.

The other commanders don’t seem weak, but they also don’t seem to be on the level of a Yonko Commander or Warlord.
 

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even if he can... Imu's too busy right now... but considering those are Legendary 900 years old weapons,,it is a pretty amazing feat...

So he got Conquerors, and his Armament Haki,, go out of the scale too.. a true shield, anything that crash against his legs , get broken now..
 

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We did? I feel like I'd remember that. I remember him kicking light but not an overt showing of armament.
Didn't he spell it out himself vs Queen. That he used hardening to coat himself from the heat?
 

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I mean, you still need CoC to beat them and the RA isn’t exactly stacked with people who can use it. They’ve got Dragon, probably Sabo, and possibly Iva.

The other commanders don’t seem weak, but they also don’t seem to be on the level of a Yonko Commander or Warlord.
I think they are a bit stronger than they seem. We saw how the scabbards or kaido's executives performed against aramaki. Outside of yamato most of them were owned. The revolutionary army executives faced issho and aramaki and survived... I won't go as far as saying they are conqueror haki users but they seem to be ahead of the curve when it comes to executive types. Among people with executive ranks we have seen so far only WB's seem to be good enough to hold back a yonko/admiral.
 

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The revolutionary army executives faced issho and aramaki and survived...
True, but the admirals were very limited, because not allowed to damage the holy land... So in every other place the fights would be very different.
 

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So Zoro and Sanji get to be right/left wing AND sword and shield.

What about the rest of the crew ?
Jinbei : spear
Brook : hat
Robin : vest
Nami : pants
Franky : thong
Chopper : left sandal
Usopp : right sandal
Last member to join will have the honor of being the sash I guess.

Sensational.

Chapter looks dope, though. I like Sanji fighting style.
 

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Sanji getting his leg broken has always annoyed me. Then again, Zoro had 2 swords break.

Would have been hilarious if someone introduced Sanji to pipe smoking party powder.
As an aside, I think we're supposed to ignore the hole chain smoking effect on his health. I'm sure he'll give it up now to respect his body.
 

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Among people with executive ranks we have seen so far only WB's seem to be good enough to hold back a yonko/admiral.
I think King ,and Katakuri deserve to be added to the “can at least fight an admiral and not die” list.

For the Strawhats, Sanji definitely gets a place on that list too since he already did it on Egghead, and that means Zoro has to be added as well since they are relatively equals. Not sure if Boa and Yamato count, but they would definitely be on the list for the Strawhats.

For Buggy, obviously Mihawk, and I might be misremembering, but I think Crocodile held off at least one Admiral during Marineford.

For Blackbeard, obviously Kuzan, and then maybe Shiryu. As one of the two candidates for end of series villain, his crew is kind of weak.

No real way to judge Shanks’s crew at this point since they haven’t actually had any fights, but Beckman did get the drop on Kizaru, so I assume at least he and at least a couple other crew members can hang with the heavy hitters.
 

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As an aside, I think we're supposed to ignore the hole chain smoking effect on his health. I'm sure he'll give it up now to respect his body.
And Luffy will stop overeating, and Zoro will stop drinking.

Oda is a chain smoker.

Blessed sake and cigs are probably the only things keeping him functional.
 
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