Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1197 Spoiler Discussion

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This is why I thought the spoilers were fake at first.
Its just, that i reacted more over that once again Oda humilaited Sanji. After his previous boast of not being hit. He was sent flying? Oda treatment of Sanji in a nutshell.
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once again that addiotnal spoiler is not making sense to me.
Is the spoiler implying that his body is now HIS, but he no longer has the Germa enchancments? Or has he rejected the Germa modifications but they are still in his body only diffrence now its HIS power because it sleeps in his normal body? I should formulate that better but I am just confused.
Did Oda just introduce thoose Enchaments to once again give Sanji a crisis of faith and then discard it once he overcame it?
Or to give Sanji a temporairy boost and alter rpove to everyone that he never needed it and was stronger without them, he just needed to belive in himself?
Or keep it around but now truly belongs to him?
to many questions.
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i dreamed for a day like this ! Sanji was always my favourite character because i like how he fights with his foot etc and finally Oda after humiliating him so many times and times decided to power up him !
ah, glad it was just not me who could see how much Oda was humilaitng Sanji.
 

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Garp + Roger vs Rocks, WB vs Akainu, Usopp vs Perona, Garp vs BB crew, Zoro vs King, Franky vs Señor Pink (for the flashback reasons) and could probably add many many more
You and @Bandit99 can stay on that side

this fight is clearly The Best Non-Luffy Fight in The Series…….And it’s probably going tone Animated better than the fights you named considering One Piece is Seasonal Now.

 

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Yay, marathon of weird faces is continued. But let's put chapter in general to the side for a moment because there's one thing that I think nobody talk about. Omen is more versityle than I ever imagined. I didn't expected that omen could be used in a way Killingham did. Ever since omen was introduced I thought it's like some energy that makes user stronger but turned out this is wrong. I would never thought that omen can be used to make actual armor. Sommers deffinetly didn't gave us any clues about that use of omen. Probably because he's overconfident dumbass. Anyway, I still have no clue what omen is exactly but I feel like fact that Killingham could use it to make physical thing to protect himself better brings us bit closer to solution of that mystery.
 

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So we get a look at Sanji's enemies in the new world... and oda draws wadatsumi, judge and queen? In the very chapter where sanji learns cladding we also get a reminder that sanji has done basically nothing in the entire new world saga lol. What's wrong with oda? WADATSUMI!? FFS.
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Wait, so sanji can sort of activate his mutations at will and now won't be using them?
 

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"spiral of his eyebrow"

That's it. Oda, you have completely lost any sense of originality. This is so ridiculous, it's not even funny to laugh about it anymore. It's creepy, cringy and simply disgusting. If you run out of ideas, just say so and leave One Piece to someone else to continue the plot!
 

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Yay, marathon of weird faces is continued. But let's put chapter in general to the side for a moment because there's one thing that I think nobody talk about. Omen is more versityle than I ever imagined. I didn't expected that omen could be used in a way Killingham did. Ever since omen was introduced I thought it's like some energy that makes user stronger but turned out this is wrong. I would never thought that omen can be used to make actual armor. Sommers deffinetly didn't gave us any clues about that use of omen. Probably because he's overconfident dumbass. Anyway, I still have no clue what omen is exactly but I feel like fact that Killingham could use it to make physical thing to protect himself better brings us bit closer to solution of that mystery.
Sommers previously said its the answer to Haki, and he showed us an Omen conjuration of a skeletal snake I believe.
Omen making an armor would then therefore be the parallel to the invisible Armament armor, roughly. I don't think it has to be exact, but it's close enough to still be the loose answer.


So we get a look at Sanji's enemies in the new world... and oda draws wadatsumi, judge and queen? In the very chapter where sanji learns cladding we also get a reminder that sanji has done basically nothing in the entire new world saga lol. What's wrong with oda? WADATSUMI!? FFS.
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Wait, so sanji can sort of activate his mutations at will and now won't be using them?
Agreed. I personally feel that Vergo should have taken the panel, or at least had a split panel given that he fractured Sanji's leg. Just feel like he would have been more thematically relevant.

On the mutations, I think this is sort of indicating that the powersets are unified and we won't be getting anymore brow flips because Sanji has properly accepted the Germa body as the body his mother gave him and the body his sister loved, and the body Zeph trained.
For the record, Sanji was previously using Ifrit without the brow flip against Killingham, and the last time we sort of saw the brow flip was during the exchange with Imu.
Meta--I think the brow flip is just tedious to keep track of, drawing wise so its just better to not have to worry about it.
But on that question and clarification on wording, important to note that Sanji could use the exoskeleton at will, since the exoskeleton is required for Ifrit and Ifirt is at will.
 

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You and @Bandit99 can stay on that side

this fight is clearly The Best Non-Luffy Fight in The Series…….And it’s probably going tone Animated better than the fights you named considering One Piece is Seasonal Now.

Your opinion.
 

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So we get a look at Sanji's enemies in the new world... and oda draws wadatsumi, judge and queen? In the very chapter where sanji learns cladding we also get a reminder that sanji has done basically nothing in the entire new world saga lol. What's wrong with oda? WADATSUMI!? FFS.
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Wait, so sanji can sort of activate his mutations at will and now won't be using them?
Not much to defend on Sanji's lacking enemies post time skip. Frankly, I would have thought a good opponent for him would have been Kaku on Egghead, notably since both incorporate kicks.

Of course, it would also be needful to omit zoro easily handling Kaku, so that there could be "weight" between a sanji vs kaku fight. This could be done by Kaku not engaging Zoro at all.


On Cake Island arc, he could have a real fight with Oven.

In Dressrosa, sanji vs Gladius

There's no shortage of opponents all throughout, but Oda turned sanji more into a support character rather than a frontline fighter.
 
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Best non-Luffy fight in the series argue with your motha
Zoro vs Kaku
Zoro vs Mr 1
Sanji vs Jyabura
Chopper vs Kumadori
Ussop and Chopper vs the molerat lady and the bat doofus in alabasta
Ussop vs Perona
Sanji vs Gin
Zoro vs baroque works at whiskey peak
 

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So Zoro, Sanji, and Jinbe, would have to be Luffy's sword, shield, and armor then. Interesting.
 

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The fight was enjoyable but the plot and how Sanji comes into power ruins the tension nevertheless. I just hope Zoro fight would be over next chapter and we can move to Imu again
 

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This chapter was so much better with actual artwork. In some ways, Sanji’s detailed character arc and backstory feel completely worth it now. Easily a 10/10 and perhaps the best chapter of this year and that says a lot considering all we have seen this year. Next chapter, i guess we will see we will see the aftermath of Sanji’s fight, then Zoro’s and finally moving back to Luffy.
 

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He dragged Killingham sorry ass.. trough the whole town..

Only reedeem on killingham it was when Sanji's bounce...and when he farmed aura using the armor

after dat..Nothing.. weapon got broke.. armor got broke.
 

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Whoa. The artwork made this chapter so much better.

This was the best chapter we've had in a while.

So Sanji has CoC now, where do we even go from here?

I guess defeating Sommers and Killingham weakens Imu and Luffy counter attacks and drive Imu away.

This is the first time where Sanji beat an opponent much stronger than Zoro's, which I never thought I'd see. Was hoping for black flames but that is such a small nitpick it doesnt really matter.

The panel work was also impressive. I haven't been liking the panel placement recently but this just proves Oda still has it.

I wish we could get the reactions from King Moe and Nik. This forum would be a war zone right about now lol
 

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Whoa. The artwork made this chapter so much better.

This was the best chapter we've had in a while.

So Sanji has CoC now, where do we even go from here?

I guess defeating Sommers and Killingham weakens Imu and Luffy counter attacks and drive Imu away.

This is the first time where Sanji beat an opponent much stronger than Zoro's, which I never thought I'd see. Was hoping for black flames but that is such a small nitpick it doesnt really matter.

The panel work was also impressive. I haven't been liking the panel placement recently but this just proves Oda still has it.

I wish we could get the reactions from King Moe and Nik. This forum would be a war zone right about now lol
God knows what he got.... Royal Flush... and even Germa Genes kick in?

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Germa genes?..

a total switch on the way he was behaving earlier.. ( Sacrificial Lamb mentality) for becoming a real shield
 

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God knows what he got.... Royal Flush... and even Germa Genes kick in?

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Germa genes?..

a total switch on the way he was behaving earlier.. ( Sacrificial Lamb mentality) for becoming a real shield
This chapter seems to rather make the point that his germa genes are switched off. I am not sure if he will be using his mutations in the future though the vibe appears to be that he isn't. Which is a bit weird considering that the strawhats doing things they find unsavory to be of more use to luffy is not unusual. Like when zoro begged mihawk to train him. I suppose another way to look at this could be that his germa exoskeleton allowed sanji to take even more hits and now he isn't. Though it still feels a bit awkward that the very chapter where sanji goes "I am going to be luffy's shield" he also foregoes an insanely strong defense.
 

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This chapter seems to rather make the point that his germa genes are switched off. I am not sure if he will be using his mutations in the future though the vibe appears to be that he isn't. Which is a bit weird considering that the strawhats doing things they find unsavory to be of more use to luffy is not unusual. Like when zoro begged mihawk to train him. I suppose another way to look at this could be that his germa exoskeleton allowed sanji to take even more hits and now he isn't. Though it still feels a bit awkward that the very chapter where sanji goes "I am going to be luffy's shield" he also foregoes an insanely strong defense.
I just guessing.. due to the change on his eyebrows
 
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