Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump (2026) - News and Discussion!

[Shinuki no Reborn]

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[pennycryman]

I don't see how Roku is being favoured at all, the series is clearly very popular with readers and it's selling well, getting a early 2nd cover is about survey results, not volume sales, and tbh we're not even seeing the manga ranking in the top 3 or something, most of the time it ranks in 6th lol

Also, selling 7.5 in 3 days and 8.5 in 5, i'm failing to see where this is a "decent" drop, it feels more like flat.

Roku is dropping, just look at the the difference between it and Shinobi over 2 volumes.

Shinobi Undercover 9 - 8,047 (3 days)
Roku's House of Oddities 1 - 7,581 (3 days)

Shinobi Undercover 10 - 11,765 (5 days)
Roku's House of Oddities 2 - 8,577 (5 days)

Went from less than a 500 copy difference to a 3K difference. Unless somehow Shinobi is growing, Roku is dropping. 3 day week ones are low and week 2 will usually have a 75% hold. While 5-day week ones have like a 30% hold into week 2.

 

[Stivie]

Roku is dropping, just look at the the difference between it and Shinobi over 2 volumes.

Shinobi Undercover 9 - 8,047 (3 days)
Roku's House of Oddities 1 - 7,581 (3 days)

Shinobi Undercover 10 - 11,765 (5 days)
Roku's House of Oddities 2 - 8,577 (5 days)

Went from less than a 500 copy difference to a 3K difference. Unless somehow Shinobi is growing, Roku is dropping. 3 day week ones are low and week 2 will usually have a 75% hold. While 5-day week ones have like a 30% hold into week 2.

And don't forget that Shinobi Undercover has already held first place in TOC, but it took a while to get a cover, while Roku received one right away in chapter 17.

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Besides, Jump has been giving more prominence to comedies, while Kagurabachi remains at the bottom.

 

[RealityChecker]

The synopsis reads:

"An action-packed police story set in the Meiji era! Hizuki is captivated by the new civilization!"

Unless the editors lied, like what happened with Roku, this is going to be an action series.

And let's remember that even with the comedic elements, Elusive Samurai ended with the protagonist's death.

If you read The Elusive Samurai synopsis, you wouldn't even think that was a heavy on comedy series. Do you think editors lied about that and Elusive Samurai is a fraud?

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Besides, Jump has been giving more prominence to comedies, while Kagurabachi remains at the bottom.

The problem with Kagurabachi is that it had a harsh drop on sales and the arc is being heavily disliked.

 

[SharkBait]

The problem with Kagurabachi is that it had a harsh drop on sales and the arc is being heavily disliked.

This, most people aren't even praising it and indeed either speak of it in a lukewarm or chilly manner or associate their misgivings with the arc on external issues (needs a different editor, needs a break, bad work ethic).

 

[Stivie]

If you read The Elusive Samurai synopsis, you wouldn't even think that was a heavy on comedy series. Do you think editors lied about that and Elusive Samurai is a fraud?

Elusive Samurai at least didn't abandon the main plot, unlike Roku, which hasn't developed anything yet. So, for me, Roku is more of a fraud than Elusive Samurai.

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The problem with Kagurabachi is that it had a harsh drop on sales and the arc is being heavily disliked.

The problem with Kagurabachi is you and Sharkbait spreading fake news; a drop of 27 is nothing for a manga with over 100k readers.

 

[Thehoennhippo]

Elusive Samurai at least didn't abandon the main plot, unlike Roku, which hasn't developed anything yet. So, for me, Roku is more of a fraud than Elusive Samurai.

Genuinely do you read Roku? They did serious plot chapters like two weeks ago.

 

[Stivie]

Genuinely do you read Roku? They did serious plot chapters like two weeks ago.

These two chapters do not erase the previous chapters.

 

[Thehoennhippo]

These two chapters do not erase the previous chapters.

That's not what you're arguing though. You said that Roku had abandoned it's plot, which is demonstrably not true. Of course it had a bunch of one off comedy chapters in between, it's a fucking comedy series. Guess that will never be good enough for you though.

 

[RealityChecker]

I don't understand this plot-driver thinking. It is like everything has to be solved on under 30 chapters. It is a comedy series, it will have hundreds of comedy based chapters. It is nothing wrong.

 

[Newkerzy]

I don't understand this plot-driver thinking. It is like everything has to be solved on under 30 chapters. It is a comedy series, it will have hundreds of comedy based chapters. It is nothing wrong.

Certainly. However, the author/mangaka in this case has to know when to move the plot along, and when they can settle back into the ”gag of the week”. It’s all about balance.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Roku is dropping, just look at the the difference between it and Shinobi over 2 volumes.

Shinobi Undercover 9 - 8,047 (3 days)
Roku's House of Oddities 1 - 7,581 (3 days)

Shinobi Undercover 10 - 11,765 (5 days)
Roku's House of Oddities 2 - 8,577 (5 days)

Went from less than a 500 copy difference to a 3K difference. Unless somehow Shinobi is growing, Roku is dropping. 3 day week ones are low and week 2 will usually have a 75% hold. While 5-day week ones have like a 30% hold into week 2.

For me this feels more like Shinobi simply fluctuating in its performance vol by vol, which actually happens, than Roku dropping, maybe second week will be more apparent, but i feel saying "it dropped worse than Under Doctor" it's overreacting like a lot, specially when nothing else indicates the series performance getting worse at all.

Also, about the part about people complaining about Shinobi but not Roku, that happens because Shinobi was really getting a lot of preferential treatment by the editorial and being pushed as hell to the point of getting a double issue lead color pages and pushed in the group covers together with the flagship series, seems like after none of that moving up Shinobi sales, Saito gave up, but nothing like this has happened with Roku so far, only a magazine cover which is something that even series like Samon-kun once got too, the rest is just regular color pages.

 

[RealityChecker]

For me this feels more like Shinobi simply fluctuating in its performance vol by vol, which actually happens, than Roku dropping, maybe second week will be more apparent, but i feel saying "it dropped worse than Under Doctor" it's overreacting like a lot, specially when nothing else indicates the series performance getting worse at all.

Also, about the part about people complaining about Shinobi but not Roku, that happens because Shinobi was really getting a lot of preferential treatment by the editorial and being pushed as hell to the point of getting a double issue lead color pages and pushed in the group covers together with the flagship series, seems like after none of that moving up Shinobi sales, Saito gave up, but nothing like this has happened with Roku so far, only a magazine cover which is something that even series like Samon-kun once got too, the rest is just regular color pages.

Do you think Ura and Graykeith could get early covers too?

 

[FantasticFootno]

Eh for Roku getting the cover, I still think it was pretty obvious that 2b was meant to have an early cover, if it ended up being well recieved. But instead it wasn’t, and Roku had pretty good reception, so they swapped it. That whole batch was weird anyway with the late color pages (2 of which were like at the very back of the mag)

 

[Newkerzy]

Do you think Ura and Graykeith could get early covers too?

A little on the fence about that, but it could happen.

 

[Broseph]

With Sakamoto Days chapter 283 being 1st place in its final ranking, the series is now part of a very small group of only 6 series that got its final ranking before ending in the 1st place, the other 5 are:

-Naruto (Chapter 698)
-Demon Slayer (Chapter 203)
-The Promised Neverland (Chapter 180)
-Assassination Classroom (Chapter 179)
-Slam Dunk (Chapter 275)

I checked and these are really the only series that got their final ranking before ending with a color page in the ToC at the top 1

Pretty cool Sakadays is included in a group like this. It was one of the biggest WSJ series of its era so well deserved

 

[RealityChecker]

A little on the fence about that, but it could happen.

I think Ura could have. Especially after being on Top5 and having a color page on chapter 8.

 

[Shinuki no Reborn]

Ura i think it has a real chance.

 

[pennycryman]

For me this feels more like Shinobi simply fluctuating in its performance vol by vol, which actually happens, than Roku dropping, maybe second week will be more apparent, but i feel saying "it dropped worse than Under Doctor" it's overreacting like a lot, specially when nothing else indicates the series performance getting worse at all.

I don't mean UD's volume 1-2 drop, I mean it's volume 2-3 drop. Under Doctor had an over 50% drop because of scalping, that's obviously not comparable to Roku.

Also, Shinobi isn't fluctuating, volume 8 did 11.1K in 4 days, it's first week performance is the same as it always is.

 

[RealityChecker]

Ura i think it has a real chance.

It could be like Someone Hertz, then.

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I don't mean UD's volume 1-2 drop, I mean it's volume 2-3 drop. Under Doctor had an over 50% drop because of scalping, that's obviously not comparable to Roku.

Also, Shinobi isn't fluctuating, volume 8 did 11.1K in 4 days, it's first week performance is the same as it always is.

I think we will have to wait until the monthly sales. Maybe it will have better 3rd and 4th weeks. We can't compare sales from 3 and 5 days. It is not like when we have a real drop in sales like with the Kagurabachi situation.

 

[Shonenfan]

Ura i think it has a real chance.

Helps that it’s a duo too.