Discussion BaVe theory

[Anne isn't a TT]

Welcome to my BaVe theory which name is inspired by the BaZa theory. Let's dive into some key evidence that suggests Bam is actually V, based on recent events in the story.

Evidence from the Question
In chapter 597, a significant question is posed:
"To awaken forgotten memories, to grow the sapling that didn't grow, to bloom a flower again, and to bring back the calamity that was buried... the one who opened the door... the one who was not originally 'you'... Just what are you?"

To this question, Endorsi responds that "Bam is Bam," but this answer was deemed incorrect. The correct answer, as hinted by the phrase "the one who originally opened the door," implies V, the user.

Gussy's Reluctance
In the Floor of Death (FoD) arc, Gussy avoids talking to Bam about V. Gussy knew that Enki didn't kill someone (Amizu), but Rei did. What he didn't know was who was killed. So, there was no reason for him to hate V or so it seems. It seems he was just avoiding to talk about V. Gussy's reluctance kinda suggests that discussing V could trigger Bam's memories, but it wasn’t yet the right time for Bam to awaken these memories as it is hinted V's power will awaken cause bam has awakened some memories in him based on recent chapter.

Rei's Flashback
During Rei's flashback, we see Amizu's death, for which V was framed. It could have been Arlene too. This framing must have a purpose. In the current war, there's a higher death flag for Rei than Gussy, and it’s possible only Bam can kill him. We don't yet know if FLs can kill each other, as the immortality contract hasn't been fully explored. It would fit perfectly for V (if Bam is V) to take down Rei as retribution.

This theory presents a compelling case that Bam may actually be V, with the narrative providing various hints and connections to support this idea.
This is just an outline of the theory and will improvise on it during the coming days. Thank U for reading it.

 

[zoradante1]

Welcome to my BaVe theory which name is inspired by the BaZa theory. Let's dive into some key evidence that suggests Bam is actually V, based on recent events in the story.

Evidence from the Question
In chapter 597, a significant question is posed:
"To awaken forgotten memories, to grow the sapling that didn't grow, to bloom a flower again, and to bring back the calamity that was buried... the one who opened the door... the one who was not originally 'you'... Just what are you?"

To this question, Endorsi responds that "Bam is Bam," but this answer was deemed incorrect. The correct answer, as hinted by the phrase "the one who originally opened the door," implies V, the user.

Gussy's Reluctance
In the Floor of Death (FoD) arc, Gussy avoids talking to Bam about V. Gussy knew that Enki didn't kill someone (Amizu), but Rei did. What he didn't know was who was killed. So, there was no reason for him to hate V or so it seems. It seems he was just avoiding to talk about V. Gussy's reluctance kinda suggests that discussing V could trigger Bam's memories, but it wasn’t yet the right time for Bam to awaken these memories as it is hinted V's power will awaken cause bam has awakened some memories in him based on recent chapter.

Rei's Flashback
During Rei's flashback, we see Amizu's death, for which V was framed. It could have been Arlene too. This framing must have a purpose. In the current war, there's a higher death flag for Rei than Gussy, and it’s possible only Bam can kill him. We don't yet know if FLs can kill each other, as the immortality contract hasn't been fully explored. It would fit perfectly for V (if Bam is V) to take down Rei as retribution.

This theory presents a compelling case that Bam may actually be V, with the narrative providing various hints and connections to support this idea.
This is just an outline of the theory and will improvise on it during the coming days. Thank U for reading it.

i dont think he is V its very likely he either absorbed V which made arlene call him monster or he is something more sinister like others said.

But i like this theory more than BaZa it makes more sense than that at least. But i dont get why would we need V to kill traumerei since gustang is kind of overpowering him now plus luslec is gonna come to fight rei probably too. Why would we need V to kill traumerei plus Gustang got the bracelet that could defeat even zahard so i dont see why we need V to kill rei.

 

[kkck]

I am not ready to jump on the Bam is V bandwagon but I do have a comment... We don't know why Gustang came to dislike V. Or if he even dislikes V tbh considering his agenda and forgotten memories. We also know that the family head's history is incredibly long so the events we have seen so far might be unrelated to gustangs apparent dislike of V.

 

[Mekhar]

Ch. 351 Hidden Floor
Given the latest chapters one might suspect that YHS calls Baam here per "V". But it's also a typical vague statement that SIU used with Hwa Ryun's dialogue.

 

[Anne isn't a TT]

Ch. 351 Hidden Floor
Given the latest chapters one might suspect that YHS calls Baam here per "V". But it's also a typical vague statement that SIU used with Hwa Ryun's dialogue.

Which Ch?

 

[maverickframe_19]

Bam has V's soul which was put into him by Arlene through necromancy. V and necromancy introduced in the same arc? Coincidence I don't think so.
Bam is a vessel containing two souls. The colossal soul that Red Thryssa called administrator power is the outside god's and V's souls that Arlene put in him.
I call Bam a vessel because technically he's dead. It's not beyond Arlene to do what Traumerei did because they both couldn't let go of their loved ones. I think the parallels are fascinating.

 

[VON]

Idk and idgaf

Bam is the r*ped child of Arlene and Zahard. Dying on this hill frfr

 

[Fortress of Solitude]

Bam has V's soul which was put into him by Arlene through necromancy. V and necromancy introduced in the same arc? Coincidence I don't think so.

I think Arlene used the spoon, Karaka has the spoon now and they will use it soon...
Traumerei said he has nightmare since Bam entered the tower but it can't be Bam or Rachel the cause, so the link is between Traumerei and V for the necromancy and probably Akryung.

 

[harold.sota]

Welcome to my BaVe theory, which name is inspired by the BaZa theory. Let's dive into some key evidence that suggests Bam is actually V, based on recent events in the story.

Evidence from the Question
In chapter 597, a significant question is posed:
"To awaken forgotten memories, to grow the sapling that didn't grow, to bloom a flower again, and to bring back the calamity that was buried... the one who opened the door... the one who was not originally 'you'... Just what are you?"

To this question, Endorsi responds that "Bam is Bam," but this answer was deemed incorrect. The correct answer, as hinted by the phrase "the one who originally opened the door," implies V, the user.

Gussy's Reluctance
In the Floor of Death (FoD) arc, Gussy avoids talking to Bam about V. Gussy knew that Enki didn't kill someone (Amizu), but Rei did. What he didn't know was who was killed. So, there was no reason for him to hate V or so, it seems. It seems he was just avoiding talking about V. Gussy's reluctance kinda suggests that discussing V could trigger Bam's memories, but it wasn’t yet the right time for Bam to awaken these memories as it is hinted V's power will awaken cause bam has awakened some memories in him based on recent chapter.

Rei's Flashback
During Rei's flashback, we see Amizu's death, for which V was framed. It could have been Arlene, too. This framing must have a purpose. In the current war, there's a higher death flag for Rei than Gussy, and it’s possible only Bam can kill him. We don't yet know if FLs can kill each other, as the immortality contract hasn't been fully explored. It would fit perfectly for V (if Bam is V) to take down Rei as retribution.

This theory presents a compelling case that Bam may actually be V, with the narrative providing various hints and connections to support this idea.
This is just an outline of the theory and will improvise on it during the coming days. Thank U for reading it.

Bam is not V. He has V power it was stated clearly not soul but power (I draw a separation here, the soul is the identity). To me Andorsi answer was correct, identity wise. If we are talking about the composition the host of the identity, he question is very puzzling. It was supposed Bam to have the power of the God of outside... from here, it can go in any direction.

1. He has both powers... (apart from those that he has absorbed)
2. The God is the soul the body is Viole and the power V ( this would be very strange)
3. The soul laid.
4. How V's power ended up in Violes body?
5. It's actually the original Viole body?
6. The power laid..
7. The story of the God of outside is just a fairytale.. meaning not real
8. ...

 

[s4js1]

Idk and idgaf

Bam is the r*ped child of Arlene and Zahard. Dying on this hill frfr

theory was that rachel is zahard+arlene unwonted kid,,,,,but again being kid of two irregular how is she so lame, an even worst not shinsu resistance from heedan floor one.....

 

[VON]

theory was that rachel is zahard+arlene unwonted kid,,,,,but again being kid of two irregular how is she so lame, an even worst not shinsu resistance from heedan floor one.....

yah there's no way she is born from two Godlike being with absolutely below average talent and body... she's definitely just a random girl from a village that knows Arlene due to fate.

 

[arrowofsky]

yah there's no way she is born from two Godlike being with absolutely below average talent and body... she's definitely just a random girl from a village that knows Arlene due to fate.

it is even more probable that Rachel - light, is somewhat related to the Shiny beings than being born out of Zahard + Arlene.

 

[VON]

it is even more probable that Rachel - light, is somewhat related to the Shiny beings than being born out of Zahard + Arlene.

Lol that’s even less likely

 

[V_TheHiddenAxis]

Doesn't V said him and this child "his child" will take revenge together?

V and Baam are separate imo.

Though Baam is lacking in personality and style comparatively where as V is based and more stylish. So if SIU is going to switch baam's personality (which is unlikely imo) I am fine with it.

 

[Demonspeed]

Baam is V's child. V is possessing his child's body.

Doesn't V said him and this child "his child" will take revenge together?

V and Baam are separate imo.

Though Baam is lacking in personality and style comparatively where as V is based and more stylish. So if SIU is going to switch baam's personality (which is unlikely imo) I am fine with it.

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Rachel is definitely not some special being like a Shiny. Would go against the theme of her character. She is an average joe or even less striving to become special.