Chapter One Piece Chapter 1125 Discussion

[AmyRose]

Oh, so Imu ended Saturn right before vice admirals eyes. Yes, this have sense because Devon copied Saturns appearance so if vice admirals saw Saturn dying then Devon won't be able to fool them. There's chance that York will delete Saturn from Seraphins authorization list and so that would mean Devons visit to Egghead was useless. Also that's rich coming from Garland to say "Let's create better world together my fellow Gorosei.". Actually I don't really think world without other people and places where food could be grown would be better world for Celestial Dragons. Sure, they would probably still have slaves and even could breed them to have cheap labor but where the hell they would get food? Because I don't think those bridges could be used as farms even if they are really big. Oh no, Gorosei (Imu actually) could agreed to let fishmans and merfolk to live on land because they want to use THEM as labor in near future due to fact that they are stronger than humans and won't die in water. Man, just now I realized how despicable and cruel WG or rather Imu and Celestial Dragons are. They knew from the very beggining world will sink in the future so they were getting ready for centuries while keeping regular people in iron grasp so they won't ever fight back against them until it will be too late. Only problem are pirats because they are rather free and don't have to bend to WGs rules as hard as civilians so WG painted them and every single person who could cause problems as evil doers. What way WG was able to make people believe that almost impossible "taxes" and well hidden approval for salvery is necessary to keep peace. Ok, I got distracted with my own theories for a bit sorry. Anyway, I find it rather interesting that conciousness of other Vegapunks go back to the brain and can build new body for themselfs BUT York didn't knew this and thought that killing other satelites off will be enough to make her sole Vegapunk. Or she DID know but thought she could easly stop them from "regenerating" as long as she will have control over Punk Records. Well I wonder if York really can access Punk Records from anywhere, if so if new Vegapunk can't cut her off of it it shouldn't really matter where Punk Records is. Unless they can cut her off and that's one of reasons why she's freaking out? Well, if Punk Records had all spares Vegapunks needed to stay alive and efficient then it seems like York was left with only one body so she better take care of it, heh. Fact that new Vegapunk was throwing out Yorks body parts must be looking quite gruesome from the side view. Well, it looks like in very last arc there will be a LOT happening. It will be literally war to steal or change the worlds fate and future.

 

[MonsterEnvy]

So it sounds like Saturn was killed because of Joyboy's haki being unleashed by Emeth, had that not happened he likely would not have been killed.

 

[electricmastro]

So who here wants to keep accusing Oda of being a softie? Because, YIPPEEKIYAY everyone. Saturn got BONED.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Interesting to know that Saturn has been alive for at least 200 years. Crazy that none of the Marines have seemed to question un-aging leaders as being odd. Also seems that Imu is known by more than the Gorosei so might be other CD know of his/her existence but only a few know that he/she is the actual ruler. Does make more sense that way since it would be pretty isolating to be locked away for 800 years.

Imu probably has powers like Sugar's despite looking like a child is actually 22 and the world forget about everyone she touches. That would at explain some of it. I bet that's where Doflamingo got the idea from.

They all struggle until Luffy starts winning, then they win easy and come help Luffy? hahaha

That depends on Imu recruiting practices lol. I mean he does have to recruit off some merit so they're all probably at least decently strong without him. And Garland did fight in the God Valley without Imu power so he's probably pretty strong. So the others are probably at at least somewhat strong without Imu's powers.

Plus Oda likes to keep Luffy's fight 1v1 so they'll probably be too tired from their fights to help.
That and I can also see Luffy wanting them to stay out of it cuz he stubborn and childish like that.

 

[Sefirosu]

Man, these guys are arrogant. Wiping out a VIP of the world right in front of the peons' eyes?
The amount of damage Imu does to his own force, man.

Making fun of stereotypical villain behaviors aside, something I wonder is if there's a limit to the regen Imu might afford the gorosei. For instance, if the regen is limited by a condition like: "You only get 100 regens per day," then it opens up a whole new conversation on their capabilities.
At the moment, I want to say that Imu does have a hard limit on how many bodies he can support at once with the age stopping.
Regardless, exciting info and I can't wait to see what Oda does with the specifics.

Something that's held true here so far is that old age gets everyone eventually. There's probably something significant in that Imu has control over the passing of the ground, whereas the luffy side of the plot is all about passing it up to the next generation.

Oh, with the exception of Brook. Brook beat old age through an exploit in devil fruit.

limit on regen like the Homunculus in FMA?

 

[Bradhimself]

Probably Imu probably has powers like Sugar's despite looking like a child and the world of forgot about everyone she touched. That would at explain some of it. I bet that's where Doflamingo got the idea from.



That depends on Imu recruiting practices lol. I mean he does have to recruit off some merit so they're all probably at least decently strong without him. And Garland did fight in the God Valley without Imu power so he's probably pretty strong. So the others are probably at at least somewhat strong without Imu's powers.

Plus Oda likes to keep Luffy's fight 1v1 so they'll probably be too tired from their fights to help.
That and I can also see Luffy wanting them to stay out of it cuz he stubborn and childish like that.

Yeah in a general sense it's Luffy vs the big bad, but there are exceptions. I think to accurately predict that fight, we would have to have knowledge about Joyboy vs Imu and what caused him to lose there, as that is the adjustment that needs to be made for Luffy to beat Imu.

Emeth saying "I'm sorry JoyBoy, sorry I couldn't make you king" makes us think as if his team let him down and that's what caused his death. If that is so, then would Luffys crew make that mistake? Perhaps that's the difference?

Too early to tell but great to ponder.

 

[KyuKyu555]

Those York parts!!!!!!

 

[Bradhimself]

So it sounds like Saturn was killed because of Joyboy's haki being unleashed by Emeth, had that not happened he likely would not have been killed.

Saturn was killed because he was responsible for Egghead and didn't stop that transmission. Imu may have thought the Haki he felt was coming from Luffy, he does refer to him as Joyboy after all.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Now that we know Imu doesn't differentiate Luffy from Joyboy, things are more set in stone, I just don't know how we have enough time for Luffy to beat both BB and Imu... Unless they fuse in some way

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Yeah in a general sense it's Luffy vs the big bad, but there are exceptions. I think to accurately predict that fight, we would have to have knowledge about Joyboy vs Imu and what caused him to lose there, as that is the adjustment that needs to be made for Luffy to beat Imu.

Emeth saying "I'm sorry JoyBoy, sorry I couldn't make you king" makes us think as if his team let him down and that's what caused his death. If that is so, then would Luffys crew make that mistake? Perhaps that's the difference?

Too early to tell but great to ponder.

True. And you could be right.
But if you're wrong, I will call you out on it in a decade from now when we learn about what happened

 

[Bradhimself]

True. And you could be right.
But if you're wrong, I will call you out on it in a decade from now when we learn about what happened

Man I don't even believe what I said is true, just a possibility. Sure tag me in a decade, I will call myself out too! haha

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

Garling just walking in and sitting with that tux just talking down to them look pretty dope.

 

[DeadlyBeast]

I meant title not mantle lol. Like the planet names are titles not their actual names. Lol.

Ah gotcha. At least from the spoiler scans it still says Figarland Garling without any Saturn so seems like that was just all their actual names. Probably something Oda did for the og 5 but won't maintain going forward if we see more of them getting replaced, though I expect the other 4 to all go down in the final battle.

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Imu probably has powers like Sugar's despite looking like a child is actually 22 and the world forget about everyone she touches. That would at explain some of it. I bet that's where Doflamingo got the idea from.

Could definitely be the case. Doffy sure seemed to know a lot about CD & Marigeose even though he left as a kid. OP is one of those stories where we see the larger structure/plot of the world being done in miniature way multiple times so we probably have seen a lot of the future in the past.

 

[WILDCARD 1 7]

No wonder Dragon doesn't do anything.
Between all the chaos his son starts and the WG practically offing themselves. He doesn't really need too .

 

[AmyRose]

I think the new Vegapunk should think of something else for his new body, he or should I said "they" since there is 4 or them in one body look weird. Well it seems like they actually may be able to rebuild body for each of them. They have a lot of parts after all. Also I'm curious if Lucci really finded and killed Stussy. There was nothing about her ever since Kaku told her to run so I'm worried. Btw, I actually had feeling that Edison will try to save Punk Records from WGs hand with his last breath before York would kill him. It's soo great that WG haven't got everything from Egghead and I'm glad that technically flying Punk Records away was some kind of contingency plan for when WG get their hands on it.

 

[Sefirosu]

Ah gotcha. At least from the spoiler scans it still says Figarland Garling without any Saturn so seems like that was just all their actual names. Probably something Oda did for the og 5 but won't maintain going forward if we see more of them getting replaced, though I expect the other 4 to all go down in the final battle.

yeah, just like the OG Shichibukai's names with animal theme.

 

[shadowlord]

So imu has "one piece" version shadow monarch power

 

[costicla]

Saturn's death looked prety painful, can't say he didn't have it coming. I wonder if all the Gorosei will be replaced in the end, in the God Valley flashback, we see other God Knights with Garling, though they would also be older now. Also, I am certain that Lucci really "killed" Stussy. She is totally dead.

 

[kkck]

Seeing the translation and raw... I don't like this development. I get that figarland is a big deal but the arc spent a decent amount of time building up saturn as the top tenryubito, scientist and ultimately a massive force that had been driving the plot for decades. He was introduced hundreds of chapters ago. And now he gets replaced by figarland? I want a refund on this development.

 

[Pirate Queen]

Seeing the translation and raw... I don't like this development. I get that figarland is a big deal but the arc spent a decent amount of time building up saturn as the top tenryubito, scientist and ultimately a massive force that had been driving the plot for decades. He was introduced hundreds of chapters ago. And now he gets replaced by figarland? I want a refund on this development.

I feel he had plenty honestly. He was there during Emth's first attack atop the Red Line, the whole backstory with Vegapunk/ Bonney, and even made an appearance during God Valley incident.

I'm glad he died because seriously, we were told Egghead had one last shocking turn to deliver and this certainly delivered. The Death of a Gorosei should be a bigger deal than the death of a Yonko or the loss of a shochibukai