Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1194 Spoiler Discussion

[Pirate Queen]

Well at least this time it seems like said "bum" will be defeated FOREVER. Good riddance.

I thought he was a better match up for Sanji anyways. I lost any interest once he was Zoro's opponent.

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so Zoro is at least making it the bandana mode. so now things are truly serious.
Would have been perfect now if they right after this went to Sanji side and saw his trails until he got it, then showed the two wings both defeat teh Hly Knights
but thats rarely how Oda does a fight. And as Sanji must always be the chewtoy, I have a feeling his chapters will be longer.

Sanji skipping any CoC competency and jumping to ACoC would be the most ridiculous powerscaling nonsense we have ever seen lol. But seeing as how ACoC is necessary idk how Oda pulls it off in any believable way

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I wonder if after this battle, Zorro will have surpassed Rayleigh, at leat old Rayleigh.

Zoro probably does as well as Kizaru did. Ends in a stale mate

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Mihawk hype it's finally happening after all these years

The slander will never end

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Will be interesting to see how Jinbe and Sanji fare after this, since Jinbe is #3 and Sanji is #4 after all.

I know you are panicking. Take a deep breath. Sanji supremacy is already here

 

[AmyRose]

I thought he was a better match up for Sanji anyways. I lost any interest once he was Zoro's opponent.

Because of his sadism and making fun of love? Well, kinda? But then where would be any challenge for Sanji if he was fighting Sommers instead of Killingham? I mean don't get me wrong, Sanji is doing great against Killingham despit fact that Zaza is around too. The thing is: if Killingham instead of wasting Zaza on kidnapping children would send her after Sanji things would be way harder for our "love cook". Guess Imu wasted his omen on Sommers and Killingham. Because you know, none of them seem to be able to ACTUALLY make well use of it.

Btw, it seems like this chapter (and probably next one too) will make "super Sommers" into full blown joke and I'm here for it.

 

[costicla]

Zoro with his king of hell attacks is basically throwing out attacks with sufficient force to give a yonko pause. Zoro was strong enough that lucci actually said stalling a yonko's top executive is good enough for him. If zoro wasn't THAT much of a monster nowadays there's no way lucci's pride would have let him say anything like that. Zoro is most likely walking out of elbaf almost ready to take on mihawk (He will still need more practice with cladding and at least some level of foresight). Since wano zoro just isn't an enemy meant for people who aren't yonko or admirals. That said, I fully agree with you that oda has in no way handled this well. The haki boosts luffy, zoro and now sanji are getting are largely nonsense and unearned.

Yes they are earned, what are you talking about? They are earned like we knew from the start with Haki, through battle. And with Conqueror's you can't really have someone teach you how to use it, you have it or don't, then you battle and probably have to understand your own strength and how to use it to dominate others. Luffy, Zorro and Sanji have been doing just that and have reached the top of the world now. What other method did you want exactly? The Room of Spirit and Time, One Piece version?

 

[The Trinity]

Yes they are earned, what are you talking about? They are earned like we knew from the start with Haki, through battle. And with Conqueror's you can't really have someone teach you how to use it, you have it or don't, then you battle and probably have to understand your own strength and how to use it to dominate others. Luffy, Zorro and Sanji have been doing just that and have reached the top of the world now. What other method did you want exactly? The Room of Spirit and Time, One Piece version?

I think you're spot on here. Seeing as to how HK is selective AND the wielder has to understand their own purpose to actually manifest it's fullness, I can only see mortal combat being HK advancement for these guys. HK manifestation, at least it's actual advancement, is a lonely road the wielder has to make sense of

 

[kg21tmac11]

I thought he was a better match up for Sanji anyways. I lost any interest once he was Zoro's opponent.

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Sanji skipping any CoC competency and jumping to ACoC would be the most ridiculous powerscaling nonsense we have ever seen lol. But seeing as how ACoC is necessary idk how Oda pulls it off in any believable way

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Zoro probably does as well as Kizaru did. Ends in a stale mate

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The slander will never end

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I know you are panicking. Take a deep breath. Sanji supremacy is already here

LOL. Welcome back empress you thirsty?

 

[yokoso9999]

Shit ass writing. No depth, no self reflection. How tf do you want me to believe Zoro knows about CoC, Kaido and King telling him be has it, he even fucking knocked fodders down in Wano using it, and now this and yet Zoro never sought to learn how to do it/trained for it post Wano

Does Oda takes us for kids ? Just give Gear 5 and write your goddamn Looney Tunes manga at this stage

Oda has always been one of the worst and overhyped Mangaka. He is no where close to the level of Kentaro Miura or Akira Toriyama. Oda's only good at trolling people with super inconsistent storywriting. Nothing makes sense.