Discussion Opinions about the Nest Arc

[Shadowlord123]

So, in the latest chapter, it is said that the Nest Arc has finally reached its end. I figured it would be a nice time to ask the general opinions about it since the memories are still fresh.

What did you think of it? Do you think the different plot lines were developed and concluded in a satisfactory way? What would be the pros and cons of the arc for you? What score would you give it overall (see the poll above)?

The thread that needed to be done was finally done. Let all hell break loose here. Maybe we'll even make a bigger war than the one we got in the manhwa, who knows

 

[AdityaG]

My opinion is it was "Good".
Can't recall all of it, but mainly due to a FH and his past actions, plus the power dynamics has surely changed a lot with this one arc itself. I think now only Princess/High Ranker or Blue Hole (IIRC) can seem interesting. And with them comes a whole vast amount of knowledge/lore as they also likely know things the usual ranker doesn't know. There's also some progress on tower creatures and ancients, ie. Akrinak.
As for conclusions in the arc... most were somewhat dissatisfying/sudden.

 

[big094]

It had great moments, but it has ‘ended’ really anticlimactically.

when bam first pulled up alone it looked like it was going to be epic
Then we had some amazing moments
Bam unlocking the seal
The combination to kill dokoko
White gettting back his true power.

i think it all went a little left field at the second wall.
I initially was disgusted at the prospect of a game during a war. But aye, it is tower of God
The initial fights were all pretty good
but then white decided its now or never to absorb/kill bam and i dont think the plot has recovered since

lots of nice highlights

actually really liked yas’ flashback
It just feels like siu had too much going on and didnt execute it all well.

It will be a pretty good re-read when all is said and done.

 

[Demonspeed]

Between 6 or 7/10 for me? It has some great moments but overall it was average and/or I wasn't interested in it. Traumerei's arrival was nice but his behavior was a turnoff, with his strange threats.

I like that SIU dealt with White-Baam's situation (White has been pretty good in this arc in general), Yasratcha turned out to be rather likeable. People talk about lack of deaths and stuff but does it matter much if I am not invested in the characters? I wasn't invested in most of the battles because I didn't care much about the fighters. Just killing people doesn't make a story good but Jinsung's survival is definitely annoying(he can still die later but still). Not sure how I feel about Baam's ridiculous power ups in this arc, I hope SIU will clarify things about his abilities soon.

Much more excited for the current arc and the way it has been set up is nice.

 

[requiem46]

It was fine for me. Look, I get it, this arc was supposed to be a war so we were going to have many characters fighting. And yet... Most of those fights I couldn't quite give a damn about, because they ended up being filler character 1 vs filler character 2 in the big scheme of the story. And even if it's a war, there really haven't been many named casualties to speak of...

But for the bigger characters, there were some nice moments: Baam vs White was cool (even if I think White should have just died, not switched to another sibling), the new monster in Baam's belly has some personality in addition to being a powerup, Yasracha's background was actually pretty good (and we all can probably agree with him that Wang Wang was just dumb), Kallavan temporally joined the crew and then left them as soon as he had a valid reason, Maschenny got to meet Baam in person, the family heads are starting to move around instead of being cameos, and Evankhell survived, which to me is great because I love her antics

I think it would have benefitted from not expanding itself so much to provide us some scenes with absolutely everyone in the cast, but in general it was alright

 

[Jubei_Kibagami]

What can be said that hasn't already been said?

It was... an arc. Yup.

Let all hell break loose here. Maybe we'll even make a bigger war than the one we got in the manhwa, who knows

The threat of death IRL here is certainly more of a possibility than in S3 ToG.

 

[Ignorant]

5/10 Average

The webtoon was on his way to be the greatest out there..
Was different than everything we have seen but the first 2 season… then SIU joined team “LECFF” authors that stand for love, empathy, courage, friendship and forgiveness. and it will be another
Nanatsu no taizai and OP, Naruto etc

so before the next arc or next season
We probably already know what will happens cause we already saw it in others mangas.. its really sad.
something happen that “year off” illuminati kidnapped him, cloned him and gave us another cringeworthy author.
my first bad comment about this serie started with Baam vs White in S3
So i was happy before that..
#FreeTheRealSIU #ActualSIUisJustDataSIU

 

[DanielGacitua]

In my opinion it was a totally disappointing arc for what was promised

The first wall was pretty decent if it felt like a war and the various fronts were handled well sure I have my issues with Lyborick's plan which seems pretty stupid to me Canhong and Evankhell surviving a bullet to the head but he had big moments like Karaka and Baam VS Kallavan, Evankhell annihilating a squad and White absorbing the souls of the battlefield


The whole arc decays enormously with the start of the Cat Tower, which in my opinion was a big mistake.

This part was too long and didn't end on the right time (before Traumerei arrival), there was a lot of false tension and irrelevant fights

It had good moments, like some flashbacks of minor villains, but they were too many and interrupted the main story.

White and Baam's battle was pretty good, sure, I didn't like Aria's resurrection or Khun and Rak's interference, but the atmosphere managed to create tension when Baam was being cornered with no escape.

I liked Yama's battle but not having had a victory before that defeat felt a bit humiliating, if he had fought a Beastkin (Robby?) or a BH before and used his FT to stop postponing it my opinion would highly improve

Everything Evankhell did was irrelevant and a waste of time.

Same with Kallavan, in my opinion he should have faced Baam and closed his character arc in a good way before becoming irrelevant as an enemy


On the matter of Traumerei, I hope that SIU doesn't use (again) the excuse that the other FHs also see the Regulars as insignificant to justify their inefficiency and this is an isolated case.

His performance against Yama and Yasratcha left a lot to be desired, of course, he did not move for most of the time and he killed Yasratcha as soon as he got serious, but allowing everyone to do what they want in his presence took away the impact and seriousness of it, Kallavan imposed more respect than an FH in his moment

The fact that his Shinwonryuu didn't kill anyone important, after saying that it was a "calamity" and only killed his own soldiers and destroyed his own base is an unnecessary humiliation for him.

About Baam, his response to Traumerei was completely stupid and hurt the arc's closing a lot.


I think this arc could have worked much better with minor changes, the concept was pretty good, but it left a lot of unresolved plots to finish it in a hurry which felt very disappointing

 

[Sanity Check]

10/10

 

[Fiodor Pavlovich K]

Strong 6 for me. It had great ideas but poor execution IMO.

The highlights were (1) Yas development as a character and his backstory, (2) we got more information about the higher politics involved FHs and how they see Baam.

The letdowns were the same as in other arcs, mainly: (1) bizarre decision making by Baam; (2) more random power ups to Rak and Khun; (3) reliance on same tricks (Evankhell fake KOs, games with low stakes); (4) Rei.

 

[Consul N]

The first wall was great. It felt like an actual battle. Everything involved with Cat Tower, and the shitfest that was Baam vs White is when the arc took turn for the worse IMO.

 

[thedude]

My least favorite arc. Like, i had to re-read before the arc to even remember what came before it. Does anyone remember Cha? Are he and Dowon still around? Did anything that happened last arc matter to this arc? Why are they chasing mice again still right to the very end?

I think my main problem was, of all the arcs, this is the one that turning it into a game/contest made the least sense. It was a war until they got in the nest, and then suddenly "hey, let's play a game"...i get that this is how the story works, but in this case, it felt off, and went on way too long.

 

[kkck]

The arc had a lot of cool moments but the pacing dragged it down. A few highpoints:

1.- Bam vs kallavan
2.- Kallavan vs white
3.- Beastkin backstory
4.- Battle against dokoko
5.- Traumerei's shinwonryu
6.- Evankhel getting owned.


I feel like the beastkin backstory was really well done. SIU did spent a lot of time framing the relationship between yaratcha and the siblings as complex and at some point it didn't seem like the thing could even make sense. But the backstory did a good job in explaining character motivations and mentality in a way which it all added up to a pretty coherent story. The transition from the war to the cat tower battles imo killed the story momentum a bit. I feel like this needed better execution. The hiatus at the time didn't help either.

 

[Jammin]

I voted 5 out of 10.

To be honest, I'm a little torn on this arc as in some ways I liked things about it. Especially toward the end when Traum got involved. That was fun. And it got the story to a place, ultimately, that is pretty fun with some bright spots along the way. And I'd like to give it credit for that. Yet in an overall sense I also really disliked both the story it was telling and how it went about telling it. So "average" is really as high as I can go.

The sort of battle manga with too many characters and too little meaningful character development approach is tough for me. Especially when everything is about strength with little room for humor or adventure or anything else. Introducing character after character with so little substance. Feel like you can get away that a bit if your battle's are intricate enough or if your art is as great as Tite Kubo's. SIU's, in my opinion, is just not.

So, while there was good and bad, even with the strong ending it can't quite get to a net positive for me. Better than the Fang arc. Better than the Wall arc. Worse than pretty much everything else for me.

 

[DeadCosmos]

4/10

Hatz,shibisu, Aria, retcons, furry focus, art quality, pacing. Some individual moments really mess up my feelings on the whole arc like yama/yasratcha,I think I felt too bad to give this a 3/10.

 

[HakunaMatata]

4/10 but I rated it 2/10 at first

Basically : all hype, no delivery + totally feels like a filler arc.
Everything SIU built ends up dropped sooner or later.

SIU built :

• Baam vs Kallavan since end of s2
  • unfinished rematch, Kallavan totally useless after that
• Kallavan joining FUG against ZA
  • straight to the drain with yet another unfinished match + another complete switcharoo
• Yama getting revenge for the deaths of his pack members
  • unfinished rematch preceded with more humiliation that I can't count
• Hype about Cha and Dowon
  • Cha delivers but against fodders
• Cha, Dowon vs that big-ass Snake
  • lol
• Zahard's treasure
  • 
• Hybrider, Tan guy, law breaking experiment
  • loool
• LPB HR
  • lmao
• Baam vs White
  • Disappointing
• Baam who was supposed to get out of the Nest as a beast
  • only real feat is the teleportation of that bomb
• Traumerei
  • So weird

And so on

Everything he built was either dropped, forgotten or half-assedly resolved.
Fights were barely comprehensible. Zoom, zoom, zoom.
No tension.
Regulars getting more relevant than HR.

We didn't even have a proper end for the arc ! Kallavan ? Lyb ? Spider-chick ? Tan-dude ?
Repercussions ?
This was bad, really bad.