Urek runs FH gauntlet

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The first half, I’m not even going to bother or deign answering. You skipped a good portion of the lore reveals.

What explosive talents or growth? The guy is so strong to the point he NEVER bothered to learn any advanced shinsoo technique or even shinwonryu. Urek was that powerful to begin with.

I feel like you’re taking offense at the fact that Urek came in super strong.
Explosive talent and growth, that's what clearing the tower in 50 years all by yourself is and not needing revolution also because of that.

Don't think it's hard.

Also no, I'm simply talking about how convenient it is that Urek is simply the only irregular in the tower to have stopped growing even though nothing points to that.

He cannot have come in stronger than FH's, that's simply impossible and Urek would have lost interest in climbing the tower long ago if so and wouldn't have bothered entering the hidden floor too at that.

He only wanted fo find Phanta, not climb the tower or get stuck in it.
 

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Explosive talent and growth, that's what clearing the tower in 50 years all by yourself is and not needing revolution also because of that.

Don't think it's hard.

Also no, I'm simply talking about how convenient it is that Urek is simply the only irregular in the tower to have stopped growing even though nothing points to that.

He cannot have come in stronger than FH's, that's simply impossible and Urek would have lost interest in climbing the tower long ago if so and wouldn't have bothered entering the hidden floor too at that.

He only wanted fo find Phanta, not climb the tower or get stuck in it.
Which literally screams to be overwhelmingly powerful from the start. Revolution happened as early as the 40th floors.

Nothing convenient. He is an exception. Dude is an outlier.

He climbed because he had to. He was super strong but not strong enough to break the tower’s laws to the extent Phan and Enryu could.
 

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Which literally screams to be overwhelmingly powerful from the start. Revolution happened as early as the 40th floors.

Nothing convenient. He is an exception. Dude is an outlier.

He climbed because he had to. He was super strong but not strong enough to break the tower’s laws to the extent Phan and Enryu could.
One reason I say he cannot have been as powerful as a FH at the start is because of the hidden floor.

Forget getting copied for a moment, simply getting scanned by it would have shattered the mirror to pieces if his shinsoo was that strong.

Heck, even while his real body would have been undertaking the hidden floor quest he couldn't possibly have been that strong, even Zahard could only send a small fraction of his power in there and nothing more.

Maybe, just maybe somehow if the real Urek at the hidden floor was a powerful as this adult Data Zahard fraction it'll make sense but I think not.

Sworn enemy Urek was super strong, strong enough to the point he could shatter a piece of adult Data Zahards attack while both young Z and Edhuan combined couldn't ruffle his clothes.

So even if the real Urek at the hidden floor was supposed to be much stronger its still a massive gap in power between him and that fraction.
 

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One reason I say he cannot have been as powerful as a FH at the start is because of the hidden floor.

Forget getting copied for a moment, simply getting scanned by it would have shattered the mirror to pieces if his shinsoo was that strong.

Heck, even while his real body would have been undertaking the hidden floor quest he couldn't possibly have been that strong, even Zahard could only send a small fraction of his power in there and nothing more.

Maybe, just maybe somehow if the real Urek at the hidden floor was a powerful as this adult Data Zahard fraction it'll make sense but I think not.

Sworn enemy Urek was super strong, strong enough to the point he could shatter a piece of adult Data Zahards attack while both young Z and Edhuan combined couldn't ruffle his clothes.

So even if the real Urek at the hidden floor was supposed to be much stronger its still a massive gap in power between him and that fraction.
Was there an upper limit to the hidden floor aside from having a ranker’s contract? I don’t remember that.

Remember Zahard didn’t physically appear at the HF, he could only send in data power since he’s restricted from entering personally. Even Gustang cannot enter. This obviously doesn’t apply to Urek who was still climbing.

While the mirror didn’t break, it malfunction in even copying anything from Urek. It failed outright. Even the sworn enemy had error. And considering how it correctly manifested a fraction of Adult Zahard’s power, think of how crazy it is that it failed to even copy a portion of the real Urek.
 

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Was there an upper limit to the hidden floor aside from having a ranker’s contract? I don’t remember that.

Remember Zahard didn’t physically appear at the HF, he could only send in data power since he’s restricted from entering personally. Even Gustang cannot enter. This obviously doesn’t apply to Urek who was still climbing.

While the mirror didn’t break, it malfunction in even copying anything from Urek. It failed outright. Even the sworn enemy had error. And considering how it correctly manifested a fraction of Adult Zahard’s power, think of how crazy it is that it failed to even copy a portion of the real Urek.
No, but the hidden floor is a fragile thing relatively speaking, repeatedly called not on par with the real thing so it stands to reason that there's a strong limit to the type of power it can bear.

Also wait, did Zahard use the mirror to create that small fraction?

I mean, I'm quite sure he didn't go about creating adult Data Zahard the normal way, he specifically only put a fraction of his power and there was already a Datatl Zahard in there too.

Can the mirror copy you twice?
 

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If after beating Blossom he somehow still has the strength to fight against Yurin, who I imagine fights like Yuri, I'd say he clears the lot.

I can't see that happening though. Blossom hurts him and Yurin kills him. 1 and 2 fight amongst themselves.
 

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It should reach Yirang, but it stops there.
 

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There should be no difference between regular Urek and current Urek. He’s entered the tower super strong. Clearing floor tests with regulars and the fact he doesn’t get contracts wouldn’t make him stronger.
:yodawg

I think I got it mostly right even without knowledge of his light powers.
 

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Honestly he may clear if he can stack shinsoo powers on top of his light powers making him 2x zahard even without heals.
 
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