kakashi 423 last page + extra

[§madara§]

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[Kazi]

looks not bad at all, but in this situation i would have drawn a line (or a few speed lines) through kakashis head ^^

 

[RyuSensei]

I don't get the point of this.

 

[thewar]

omg is simple

 

[VASSiLi]

I don't get the point of this.

I agree with RyuSensei :\

 

[lee-nus]

this is what the art forum is all about these days - being the first to color something from the latest chapter. no one gives a damn about putting any effort whatsoever into what they do, its just mass production and beating the others to it that counts. what i think of the image? terrible.

oh, and mods, sorry for flaming up like this, but we all know it to be true, i hope. its quantity over quality at the art forum, as has been the case for the last six months at least. sorry to say, though.

 

[§madara§]

ok this was my first real.

 

[Jaime F.]

Hey guys, easy on the kid, he's only 13, he's innocent. I agree with most of you, and especially Lee-nus, but Madara young he should be able to make some mistakes and learn from them without getting scolded to much for them. Madara, what Lee-nus says is very true in a sense, and it's better to concenrate on the quality of your colorings in the long term, rather than trying to be the first person to color something out of the new Naruto chapter. Quality is always better than quantity, and over quickness, so please remember that Madara. Those word are true, especially with this kind of art. In other genre's of art it's ok to be quick, and spontaneous sometimes, especially when spontaneous is the feeling you're going for. Also if you're skills are good enough, and you are talented enough to do something with great speed, and it doesn't lessen the quality of your art, then by all means it ok for you to do that. Of course you know, and I know that, that kind of talent is rare. Unfortunatley none of here are that talented yet, especially you, so take your time, and make sure you color things until you're satisfied, as well as confident that you've totally done the best you could. If people still don't like it, it just means that you got more practice to do, still have a lot to learn.

 

[lee-nus]

very well, i will re-phrase my words to a somewhat milder tone then. of course, my first post was not directed at one individual, but at the art forum as a whole. the quality is way too often neglected, for the sake of being first to post a cover, panel, etc, or for the sake of doing the most colored ones.

however, as i have already remarked, i believe that by posting art or even comments here, one accepts being subject to criticism. this is something all artists of this forum should keep in mind, regardless of age.

i will not make a fuss over this, nor would i knowingly flame up at someone just for the heck of it. as a final remark, i hadnt realized the threadmakers young age, barely half my own. still, as i have said before i believe the above applies to all members of this forum, but i'll try and mind my tone when addressing kiddos...

 

[§madara§]

I did not know there was a race on the new chapter. try to do more practical excuse the trouble

 

[nanocigt]

lol lee-nus I agree with you in the second comment: "one accepts being subject to criticism. this is something all artists of this forum should keep in mind, regardless of age."
the criticism made here in a great deal to help strengthen the efforts of each one being better.
§madara§ don´t feel bad about this, well take to motivate to do good colors pages, I said: Kids learn faster.

this panel is so sad, I hope kisimoto don´t kill kakashi
sorry for my English :P I hope you can understan me

 

[Y-on]

very well, i will re-phrase my words to a somewhat milder tone then. of course, my first post was not directed at one individual, but at the art forum as a whole. the quality is way too often neglected, for the sake of being first to post a cover, panel, etc, or for the sake of doing the most colored ones.

however, as i have already remarked, i believe that by posting art or even comments here, one accepts being subject to criticism. this is something all artists of this forum should keep in mind, regardless of age.

i will not make a fuss over this, nor would i knowingly flame up at someone just for the heck of it. as a final remark, i hadnt realized the threadmakers young age, barely half my own. still, as i have said before i believe the above applies to all members of this forum, but i'll try and mind my tone when addressing kiddos...

Well, but what you addressed in your previous post was in a way saying that "if it sucks, don't post it". I've never thought of coloring as a race, I'm sure very few people do in fact. I agree that you should give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to everyone and disregard their age, but saying things like it's terrible then just going on a random rant doesn't apply to the criteria of constructive. If it's terrible, fine, but tell him how he can improve. If he doesn't post it just because it isn't up some standards then how could he hope to improve without criticism from those who are more experienced. Of course that's just my input, I guess that some users just expect shading, depth, and probably some other things that escape my mind at the moment in the colorations of others' all of the time. I've posted horrible colorings (still do :P) and I get good criticism (well from Ryusensei mostly ).

Anyways, as for the coloring Madara, I don't think that this is up to par with your previous work, I agree that you should have taken more time with it. When you said this was your first "real", I hope you didn't mean coloring, because as I said before, you posted other colorings before. I somewhat blame it on the panel with it only being a silhouette of Kakashi, but you could have added more to the background to make up for that factor.

 

[Dattebayo!]

Ok, this might not be to everyone's taste, BUT is this not what makes forums like this enjoyable? it wouldnt be enjoyable if everyone coloured the same, just as it wouldnt be cool if all music sounded the same, celebrate diversity!

Personally I would agree with the comments about the pic, adding a few of your own lines to show a bit of detail on Kakashi would really bring this picture to life, think of it as you have Kishi's outline, now fill it in how your imagination see's it.

It's nice to see someone so young taking an interest, keep it up!

 

[lee-nus]

Well, but what you addressed in your previous post was in a way saying that "if it sucks, don't post it". I've never thought of coloring as a race, I'm sure very few people do in fact. I agree that you should give CONSTRUCTIVE criticism to everyone and disregard their age, but saying things like it's terrible then just going on a random rant doesn't apply to the criteria of constructive. If it's terrible, fine, but tell him how he can improve. If he doesn't post it just because it isn't up some standards then how could he hope to improve without criticism from those who are more experienced.

allright, i get your point. i normally give people pointers as to what need more work imo, but frankly, what's been done to the image here is a "background" that anyone could blot in in about 30 seconds.
when i look at it, i cannot possibly see that any effort whatsoever could have been made, and as a result, its meaningless to criticize it in any constructive way, if the artist at hand isnt even interested in taking an extra thirty seconds to make it into something better. i know, i have seen other work by this artist, so i know he can do better.
secondly, as i believe i did point out, the comment was directed mostly to the art forum of mangahelpers as a whole. people seem to, and tell me if im wrong, be aware of the constant race to "whoever colors 'THAT' panel first will get the most attention/comments/views/etc". as a result, artists rush their work, and we end up with the forum filled with stuff on par with this.
thirdly, you dont need feedback to realize you can work more on something like this panel. when i was a rookie i looked at other ppl's work, analyzed and try to bring in elements of their style into my own work, while doing it my own way. artists cant just depend on the forum to teach them how to work, sometimes you have to make an effort of some sort, and at times like that, it WILL show, im sure.

also, i want to thank ppl who go through all these immensely long and boring rants of mine.

 

[Y-on]

I can sympathize with you, although there's the good chance that he's most likely not just posting his colorings for advice, but also he's posting them for the same reason you are (which I'm hoping is the same, to show them off and to get comments on your work, unless I'm way off and it's world domination through...manga colorings or something). I can also agree that you don't need feedback to improve (I rarely post myself), I usually just look at the works of others' too and see what's in theirs' that's lacking in mine. Most of my colorations I haven't posted, because I'm too ashamed of them *pets the failed colorations*. Dx

 

[lee-nus]

I can sympathize with you, although there's the good chance that he's most likely not just posting his colorings for advice, but also he's posting them for the same reason you are (which I'm hoping is the same, to show them off and to get comments on your work, unless I'm way off and it's world domination through...manga colorings or something).

damn u for revealing me!!! XDDD
no, really... i actually only post my stuff at deviantART nowadays, but i throw one in here every now and again for the heck of it. well, i suppose its really only when i color stuff from the manga, since we are not allowed to do that at dA, so they have nowhere else to go... ^^;

 

[alpvonkri]

It's OK!!!