Admiral vs Admiral: Who is the strongest?

[Gecko Moria]

The battle between the two already revealed admirals
Pretty close wouldnt you say? Both have logias and know how to use them.

[tsuki]Use this thread to discuss the outcome of a battle between any of the three admirals with another[/tsuki]

 

[Tenryuken]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

huh?
I am the first voter and I choosed Aokiji.
judging from their power I would have choosen Kizaru but Oda said that Aokiji is the strongest Marine so I am pretty sure that Kuzan must be really badass even without his DF.

 

[Akainu]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

wasn't that a misconception and that line rather was implied to say all the three admirals are dubbed "greatest fighting power of Marine HQ" ? because I'm pretty sure that Kizaru also got such a line upon introduction...

 

[Fox666]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

I vote for Kizaru... his DF has advantage, I guess a plasma explosion can finish ice. (I have heard a theory that Kizaru would fall if someone reflect the light, but reflecting don't hurt...)

 

[Razh]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

Kizaru can shoot lasers. Enough to melt any ice.

But then again, we don't really know if Aokiji could deflect it with ice.

But then again, Kizaru is a lot faster, so I would have to giwe my vote to him.

 

[neomaster121]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

huh?
I am the first voter and I choosed Aokiji.
judging from their power I would have choosen Kizaru but Oda said that Aokiji is the strongest Marine so I am pretty sure that Kuzan must be really badass even without his DF.

nope thats what i thought too
but its a mistake
its more saying that hes 1 of the 3 strongest marines

i think kizaru would win using light and speed he could create lots of heat

 

[kkck]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

I think that their powers would be useless againts each other. Light or lasers would either melt ice, be reflected or just go through. None of that really hurts aokiji IMO.
Kisaru is light, he doesnt even have a material body. I dont see how ice can hurt him. For all we know, he can walk throught the ice as if nothing happened. I dont think that even deserves to be call a tie, there simply is no fight....

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

aokiji ^^

lol wrote in german sorry :/

even because i dont think ice is his limitation, ice becomes water und water outmatches devilfruits

 

[Onomatopoeia]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

Logia intangibility:Tie

This fight can't be decided until we get rid of Logia Intangibility. Because it'll just end up as Smoker vs Ace.

 

[Franckie]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

wasn't that a misconception and that line rather was implied to say all the three admirals are dubbed "greatest fighting power of Marine HQ" ? because I'm pretty sure that Kizaru also got such a line upon introduction...

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=400266

You're right. Both Aokiji and Kizaru possess the same hype.

 

[Gecko Moria]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

Logia intangibility:Tie

This fight can't be decided until we get rid of Logia Intangibility. Because it'll just end up as Smoker vs Ace.

I decided to vote tie in the end cause of that.
But i guess they both good enough to have haki so they may be able to hit each other. And Kizaru being able to travel at the speed of light could run circles around Aokiji.

 

[Tenryuken]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

http://forums.narutofan.com/showthread.php?t=400266

You're right. Both Aokiji and Kizaru possess the same hype.

No, he isn't right.
It is said that Aokiji is the strogest Marine.
The thing that Robin said is that the "three" of them are the Marines strongest battle force meaning that if they fight together there is no way to stop them.
So it's basicaly that the 2 other Admirals are 2nd and 3rd strengh of the Marines or just that the association of the 3 Admirals is more effective than any other Marine association.

I decided to vote tie in the end cause of that.
But i guess they both good enough to have haki so they may be able to hit each other. And Kizaru being able to travel at the speed of light could run circles around Aokiji.

Kizaru can only travel straight foward at the speed of light and he need "mirrors" to ricochet in order to turn.

 

[Imitorar]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

No, he isn't right.
It is said that Aokiji is the strogest Marine.
The thing that Robin said is that the "three" of them are the Marines strongest battle force meaning that if they fight together there is no way to stop them.
So it's basicaly that the 2 other Admirals are 2nd and 3rd strengh of the Marines or just that the association of the 3 Admirals is more effective than any other Marine association.

No, they are both called the strongest fighter in Marine Headquarters, because all of the Admirals collectively are. This panel refers to Aokiji. And this panel refers to Kizaru. Compare the kanji, they are the same.

 

[Tenryuken]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

No, they are both called the strongest fighter in Marine Headquarters, because all of the Admirals collectively are. This panel refers to Aokiji. And this panel refers to Kizaru. Compare the kanji, they are the same.

Well your exemple is better than he's.
Since the symbols are the same I will pressume that you're right.

 

[Razh]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

even because i dont think ice is his limitation, ice becomes water und water outmatches devilfruits

Aokiji can only control ice. He can only freeze water. Melting his ice into water would only damage him, or in the best case scenario, wouldn't help him at all.

 

[Amekage]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

Logia intangibility:Tie

This fight can't be decided until we get rid of Logia Intangibility. Because it'll just end up as Smoker vs Ace.

Would be my answer, too.
There would be an exception if ice would counter light or light would counter ice but that would be just some weird speculation.

(What would happen if Kizaru crushed Aokiji and immediatly took away the crushed Ice? He could scatter the parts of Aokiji and return, remember Kizarus speed of light. Aokiji needed time to rebuild his body: http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/320/07/ even if this period of time was very short. This solution might be possible if Aokiji rebuilts his body of the same parts he lost by getting crushed)

 

[Sachsenhesse]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

Aokiji can only control ice. He can only freeze water. Melting his ice into water would only damage him, or in the best case scenario, wouldn't help him at all.

and thats what i mean by "i dont think his limitation is ice" also what happens if light hits the ice? the ice starts to melt, thats the worst thing on aokiji, his element is based on water, we dont know exactly where this starts and ends, but i would give him the advantage for sure against devilfruit users

 

[Onomatopoeia]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

and thats what i mean by "i dont think his limitation is ice" also what happens if light hits the ice? the ice starts to melt, thats the worst thing on aokiji, his element is based on water, we dont know exactly where this starts and ends, but i would give him the advantage for sure against devilfruit users

Unless the DF in question is Croc's then it hurts both of them. Lets say it melts, then what? Lets say it gets to waist height? Well then they're both screwed and it's Mano a Mano or the winner is who ever is taller.

But that seems sort of a dumb way to win the fight.

Anyways can't Logias create a limitless amount of their own element? Or at least create as much as they want from the surrounding environment? And anyways Amekage I'm pretty sure Aokijii was in pieces when Robin split him in two, but he seemed to be able to re create easily enough...

 

[Gecko Moria]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

If Aokiji get totally melted wouldnt he be screwed? he can only control ice and not water so...:x
But if he only got partly melted he could just freeze that part again.

 

[RichardMNixon]

Re: Aokiji VS Kizaru

I'd like to vote for who would win without intangibility but I'm not entirely sure of that either. Kizaru is certainly faster, but Aokiji could be stronger, he took a Gomu Gomu no Pistol to the stomach without even flinching. That and he froze the ocean to such a huge extent, couldn't he do the same to the air and freeze everything around him?