Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[SameOld]

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Going back to the personal poll thing... no love for Kuroko? Anyway, here's mine:

Akaboshi
Medaka Box
Hoop Men
Kuroko no Basket
Psyren

Psyren was first until not long ago, but the last few chapters have seriously annoyed me. So far it has been generic but so nicely done I didn't even mind its generic-ness... but now the execution is going down the drain.

Medaka and Akaboshi have caused such a good first impression on me I just can't help but give them the first two spots in my current top five. Hoop Men is great for slice of life manga fans (now if the actual basketball parts weren't so weak...); Kuroko is the exact opposite, which isn't a bad thing per se, and the great art and concept make up for the lack of any characterization whatsoever (just don't ask me until when I'll be able to stand it).

Bakuman, One Piece, D.Gray-Man, Gintama and Sket are all "very good" in my book, but not good enough I consider myself a "fan" of them. Beelzebub and Toriko are tolerable. Naruto, Bleach, Mago, Inumaru and Reborn are garbage.

(It's worth mentioning that Bleach, at one point, was my favorite Jump series. Now I can barely stand to read the current chapters. "The Heart" almost made me kill myself.)

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

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I think Psyren and Bleach should just merge. Bleach's battle are too long and Psyren's are too short.

 

[Jabberwocky]

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Kuroko no Basket in the bottom, again.
A sign that it is losing readers or just a case of two terrible chapters in a row?

 

[Maxy Barnard]

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I call it a case of people realising it's not actually that good. but that's just my opinion

 

[[Cross]]

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I wonder if Kuroko will gain any colour pages regardless of it's sudden low position, though if Kuroko does "bomb" (not saying it did yet...) then what does it do for Jump's credibility for these colour pages.

 

[tygreas]

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my top 5:

one piece
psyren
bakuman
beelzebub
reborn
supplemental list of likes in wsj
d.gray man, bleach, naruto, mago, sket dance.

i haven't read the others, yet, it's only a matter of time before i do though to fully understand what is staying and going. Bakuman is the sole reason i am in this thread like a religion. always checking on it.

 

[Crude]

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Personal TOC:

One Piece (number 1 since the latest arc has been so epic)
Naruto (my favourite manga, although there are some bad points in it)
Sket Dance (I love both the humour and seriousness in it)
Psyren (Has gotten a lot better after the Dholaki arc)
Reborn! (If it hadn't redeemed itself in the latest chapters, it wouldn't be here. Plus, I love the pacing and how it makes me anxious for the next chapter)

Reasons as to why the other series aren't in the top 5:

Gintama: Hilarious, but haven't read/watched it in a while.
D. Gray-Man: Chapters are too short and it's on hiatus.
Bleach: Need I explain. Although it's getting better with the Espada fights.
Bakuman: Nearly at the top 5, but something's been bugging me about the latest chapters.
Akaboshi/Medaka Box: Still new.
Beelzebub: Hasn't fulfilled it's potential yet.
Kuroko: I Don't read it.
Hoop Men: Good, yet sketchy art. Not that many memorable characters.
Toriko: Haven't read enough of it yet.
Hunter x Hunter: Hiatus
Mago:I'm liking the Onmiouji arc, though this flashback isn't all that special.
Jaguar: I Don't read it.
Kochikame: I Don't read it.
Inumaru: I Don't read it.

 

[SameOld]

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i haven't read the others, yet, it's only a matter of time before i do though to fully understand what is staying and going. Bakuman is the sole reason i am in this thread like a religion. always checking on it.

Why would you follow this thread if Bakuman doesn't have the slightest chance of being cancelled? :P

As for Kuroko's sudden drop (AND Hoop Men's failure... God, I've been saying this all the time lately), I call it a case of readers who want only action, action and action all the time. Kuroko was giving them that... but then it suddenly stopped to breathe a little and BANG! Bottom 5. The action resumes in the next ranked chapter, though, so as I said, if it rises up again, we'll know if I'm right.

 

[tygreas]

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@ same old, sorry if my lax sentence structure was misleading, i am always checking up on this thread, i have no fears over bakuman's success, bakuman was the place where i learned the importance of Table of content placing and rankings, also indirectly this thread exposed me to MxO and double arts, and man was i heart broken to know they fell victim to the harshness of wsj's competitive culling.

 

[SameOld]

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Oh, I see. It's the reason why you became interested in this, then.

 

[Kaiten]

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Second Week Tankobon Sales (this week/total sales):

1. One Piece volume 54 (279,275/1,450,417 copies)
2. Bleach volume 39 (135,027/667,580)
4. D. Gray man volume 18 (91,132/391,762)
6. Bakuman volume 3 (67,541/267,910)
13. To Love Ru volume 14 (42,648/148,855)
15. Nurarihyon no Mago 5 (38,248/134,132)
27. Sket Dance volume 8 (22,301/79,843)

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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Mago almost as high as ToRa is good. A little side question, what's the sales of the first five volume of D.Gray-man?

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Good sales for everything but Sket Dance. By Jump standards anyway. If it does get an anime, hopefully it can be boosted past the 100K tank mark.

I call it a case of people realising it's not actually that good. but that's just my opinion

I back your opinion. The only high point I've felt for the series was the first Generation of Miracles opponent. Everything else since then has been on the bland side. Everything leading up to that point wasn't all that impressive either.

The characters are just really weak overall. The action is average at best.

 

[Kaiten]

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Kuroko began as garbage and will end as garbage. Robotic, emotionless, color by numbers, generic sports comic. I can think of a limitless number of better sports series past, present, and future. The art sucks too. Besides that, it's not so bad.

Skets sales definitely improved over past volumes. It may (key word) crack 100,000 copies in a few more weeks. Mago keeps improving slightly. Next volume will probably pass ToRa.

 

[Finestela]

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Kaiten... Mago will not pass TLR anytime soon... you know why?
Because that tally does not include the limited edition that comes with the OVA DVD

 

[Kaiten]

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Kaiten... Mago will not pass TLR anytime soon... you know why?
Because that tally does not include the limited edition that comes with the OVA DVD

And how much have those boosted sales now

Then again they do cost a lot more money.

 

[Dofla]

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Jump #30 (06/22):



Thanks to Emporio for the scans.

 

[kewl0210]

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Seems Gintama has a character poll result? Cool...

It's nice to see those TOC and read the contents once in a while. Some authors talking about their animes and stuff...

 

[Xadyu]

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Ultimate Chaser. A racing manga, huh.

Never seen one of those before, are there RAWs out yet?

 

[pandaaqueen]

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4. D. Gray man volume 18 (91,132/391,762)

Ouch! Is it just me, or are these sales figures quite bad?

D.Gray-man actually used to sell more, if I recall correctly.