Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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Random Question: How does Reborn's popularity compare with Shaman King's? I ask because since Shaman King was cancelled so late in, I was wondering if it could happen to Reborn too...

 

[[Cross]]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

Random Question: How does Reborn's popularity compare with Shaman King's? I ask because since Shaman King was cancelled so late in, I was wondering if it could happen to Reborn too...

Not remotely, Reborn has a fanbase that isn't generally based around the manga per se, much like D.Gray-Man. If anything, over in Japan, Reborn is more popular than Shaman King, so I can't see it getting cancelled far into it's serialization.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I have a feeling that two of three series can be cushion for other series. For Wajima Satoshi, there are already couple of gag series in Jump, so it going to be hard to be successful. For Tanaka Tasuki, he already failed once, so he has to make really good on his second work to gain editors repect, if he didn't, he might end up like Uchimizu.

In conclusion, most people think Kawashita can be successful because she is very famous for Ichigo. But, there are lots of example that author with hit series, fail in their second work, like Sawai, Nishi, Watsuki, Fujisaki, and Takei. So she has to make her new series really good because the reader will make comparison to Ichigo.

 

[Sexy Randal 105]

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I smell a new Poseidon.

Oh and this was posted elsewhere:

2009-31 Bottom 5
Psyren
Kuroko
Bakuman
ToLoveRu
Hoopman (The End)

Toriko on break

New Series:
2009-32: Kawashita Mizuki "Ane Doki"
2009-33: Tanaka Yasuki (Hitomi's author)
2009-34: Wachima Satoshi (Author who did the 1-shot in 2008-51 issue)

2009-32
Lead CP: Ane Doki
CP: Bleach, Beelze

 

[Finestela]

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I smell a new Poseidon.

Oh and this was posted elsewhere:

Yeah... I posted it in #1299

http://mangahelpers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1413355#post1413355

 

[y A M A T O]

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I smell a new Poseidon.
2009-31 Bottom 5
Psyren
Kuroko
Bakuman
ToLoveRu
Hoopman (The End)

Bakuman in the bottom 3??? This is ridicolous.

2009-33: Tanaka Yasuki (Hitomi's author)

Is he Hitomi no Catoplebas' author? God, it makes me happy

 

[Kaiten]

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Is he Hitomi no Catoplebas' author? God, it makes me happy

Tis! I really wish I could find the raws for Kagijin's pilot. The art was amazing, better then Hitomi or Jamie Vu (great one shot, for anyone who hasn't read it). Here's a link to the color page:

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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I have a feeling that two of three series can be cushion for other series.

You are right, I just hope it's the gag and the harem not the action.

 

[Koen]

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Tanaka's art is pretty decent for an action shounen. Well I definitely look forward to what he has to offer. I won't be dissapointed by his art, that's for sure

 

[Kaiten]

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Let's see if his writing improved since Hitomi. The one shots he's done since have been good. Hitomi itself wasn't completely horrible. The main character was interesting, definitely not a typical shonen hero. What really bugged me was the big fight with poorly introduced villains that took up the last half of the series. If anyone else has read Ga - Rei, Hitomi kind of ripped off it's plot. Only Tokio wasn't a hot chick Despite those obvious flaws I've been looking forward to Tanaka's return for a while now.

 

[Drmke]

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The name of Tanaka's new series is actually called "Kagijin" (lit. Key-man) instead of Kenjin, and it is based on his one-shot that was in Akamaru 2009-Winter.

I still remember vaguely that we talked about it, and the preview ad was posted here.

Well thanks for the info...musta missed it. sounds interesting though. i hope it lasts

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

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I've generally liked his one-shots, even the Hitomi one was quite a lot better than the actual series turned out. I'm guessing (or hoping, at any rate) that the problem was largely it being his first actual ongoing manga.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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Does anyone knows how the editors choose which series to be cancel? Looking at some series, like Neuro, Muhyo, and Mxo, and the rumor about Mago, I become confused how the systems work. I thought unpopular series are the first choice for cancelation.

 

[Drmke]

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Does anyone knows how the editors choose which series to be cancel? Looking at some series, like Neuro, Muhyo, and Mxo, and the rumor about Mago, I become confused how the systems work. I thought unpopular series are the first choice for cancelation.

I don't know how the well the graphic novels of those series sold but Neuro and Mxo where in the bottom 5 quite often and would sometime yoyo up to the middle or the top 5 but for the last couple of months at least they hung around the bottom so that might have had something to do with it.

 

[Galactic Tomahawk]

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Neuro ended naturally (though it probably would've been canceled before long if it didn't), and Muhyo/Mx0 were both in the bottom more than long enough to warrant cancellation.

 

[SameOld]

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Just for the record, neither Neuro nor (I guess) Muhyo were canceled.

 

[Finestela]

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Just for the record, neither Neuro nor (I guess) Muhyo were canceled.

Muhyo's ending is definitely more abrupt than Neuro, not to mention Muhyo ended with last place.

Neuro, on the other hand, managed to wrap up the final nemesis before ending.

 

[Jabberwocky]

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Does anyone knows how the editors choose which series to be cancel? Looking at some series, like Neuro, Muhyo, and Mxo, and the rumor about Mago, I become confused how the systems work. I thought unpopular series are the first choice for cancelation.

Supposedly Mx0 was like Psyren more popular to readers on the internet then people who read it straight from a copy Weekly Shounen Jump

 

[Finestela]

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Supposedly Mx0 was like Psyren more popular to readers on the internet then people who read it straight from a copy Weekly Shounen Jump

Shueisha could care less about the internet readers like us. It's about sales, and Mx0 was much popular than Psyren (or Sket) is now with the tank buying readers.

Mx0 was at around 120k per volume when it ended.
Psyren has yet break the 60k barrier I believe.
Sket Dance is currently 70kish

This is the reason why the previous extended discussion in this thread focuses our worries at Psyren and Sket.. because the growth of tank sales isn't as strong as Mx0, and yet Mx0 was axed. The good news right now is that Psyren and Sket, while not spectacular on the ToC, is still decent enough to be yo-yoing around.

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Off-topic, but I found this gem that I just have to share with Kaiten:

76　71　*11,119　*,762,087　33　434　聖☆おにいさん 1

After 33 weeks, Saint Young Man Vol.1 is still inside the top 100 for Oricon comics tally... rofl...

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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How do the higher-ups at Jump decide when to serialize a one-shot? I assume this Kagijin was popular as a one-shot? Or is Jump simply buying time for something else?