Mag Talk Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk

[Kaiten]

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Damn, that's pretty good. Anybody know how that compares to Toriko's first volume sells?

Toriko's first two volumes were released on the same day:

volume 1 (first week): 69,177 copies
volume 2: 66,847

I'd say it compares favorably. Toriko sold a little more, but had more hype and a more notorious mangaka. Remember, Shimabukuro's previous series, Seikimatsu Leader Den Takeshi was a big hit when he was arrested. Toriko is his big comeback.

Beelzebub will clearly be a hit. How big is hard to say, but there is no doubt that it's a very popular series.

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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So, Beelzebub sold about 51,163 copies, it's not bad but I expected as same as Toriko's first volume, it is even lower than Mago, too, I am little bit disappointed.

Also, Kuroko sold 38,053 copies. The sales got better than 1st volume. Then, is that means Kuroko is still little bit safe? I want to know opinion from others.

 

[Kaiten]

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Volume 1 of Mago did not outsell Beelzebub 1. Actually, Beelzebub more then doubled Mago 1's first week sales >.< Sales not only did not disappoint, they were exactly what I was looking for. Beelzebub will be a hit.

Jump Comic/Jump Comic SQ/Jump Comic Deluxe sales 6/29 - 7/25:

2. Katekyo Hitman Reborn! volume 25 (260,432)(Weekly Shonen Jump)
4. Gintama volume 29 (204,432)(Weekly Shonen Jump)
6. Steel Ball Run volume 18 (99,842)(Ultra Jump)(seinen)
13. Gag Manga Biyori volume 10 (62,861)(Jump SQ)(shonen)
14. Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar volume 17 (57,169)(Weekly Shonen Jump)
17. Beelzebub volume 1 (51,163)(Weekly Shonen Jump)
19. Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro volume 22 (48,772)(Weekly Shonen Jump)
21. Shiki volume 5 (45,653)(Jump SQ)(shonen)
22. One Piece volume 54 (41,290)(1,650,415)(Weekly Shonen Jump)
24. Embalming volume 2 (39,107)(Jump SQ)(shonen)
26. Kuroko no Basket volume 2 (38,053)(Weekly Shonen Jump)
30. Bartender volume 14 (35,920)(Super Jump)(seinen)

Kuroko did improve, making it's first top 30. If it continues to place in the bottom 5 volume two's sales are only enough to save it if a new series does worse. Then Kuroko will get the benefit of the doubt. It's in the same position Psyren and Sket Dance were in as their first volumes were coming out.

the full top 30 is here.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

How much did mago vol. 1 sold in it's first week?

 

[Kaiten]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

How much did mago vol. 1 sold in it's first week?

I overestimated the difference in sales between Beelzebub and Mago. Both were about equal.

Mago volume 1 (week 1): 48,495 copies

Also a strong debut, a 3000 copy difference is basically meaningless. Thus it is proven. Here's the bad news for Kuroko fans:

Double Arts volume 1 (week 1): 40,644 copies

Meaning Double Arts 1 sold about the same as Kuroko 2 and was still canceled after 23 chapters. Both had strong early polls, DA was a regular in the top 5. Both collapsed, Kuroko could recover. If it continues polling under Medaka and Akaboshi I think it will be canceled and one of the two spared.

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

I overestimated the difference in sales between Beelzebub and Mago. Both were about equal.

Mago volume 1 (week 1): 48,495 copies

Also a strong debut, a 3000 copy difference is basically meaningless. Thus it is proven. Here's the bad news for Kuroko fans:

Double Arts volume 1 (week 1): 40,644 copies

Meaning Double Arts 1 sold about the same as Kuroko 2 and was still canceled after 23 chapters. Both had strong early polls, DA was a regular in the top 5. Both collapsed, Kuroko could recover. If it continues polling under Medaka and Akaboshi I think it will be canceled and one of the two spared.

Looks like we got another contender for a successful first series by an unknown author.

Man...., that does remind a lot about DA.
It was polling very good in it's early chapters, better than mago. In fact, i thought Mago would be the one to be cut. Then the unexpected happen, Mago stabilized while DA drop to hell.
Well, if Kuroko doesn't recover and Akaboshi and Medaka still got higher than Kuroko both in volume sales and TOC, it's doomed.

 

[Kaiten]

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Looks like we got another contender for a successful first series by an unknown author.

Man...., that does remind a lot about DA.
It was polling very good in it's early chapters, better than mago. In fact, i thought Mago would be the one to be cut. Then the unexpected happen, Mago stabilized while DA drop to hell.
Well, if Kuroko doesn't recover and Akaboshi and Medaka still got higher than Kuroko both in volume sales and TOC, it's doomed.

One of the two, Akaboshi or Medaka, probably won't last long enough to be judged on sales.

I still can't believe Bari Haken outlasted DA. I'm still bitter

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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Yeah, me too. Bari sucks so hard, I can't believe it got serialized. Canceling DA and Mx0 are two of jump's stupidest decision in recent years.

 

[Siberia]

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She is probably still recovering from whatever it is that took her down this time, but she doesn't want to just leave her fans with nothing for so long so she worked up this super chapter. That's what I think anyway.

You make my day! (though there has been a great deal of speculation about DGM )

Oh, Bleach is falling again...good luck=.=

Akaboshi, time to say goodbye

 

[Tru_TO]

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how much did Naruto, One Piece, Bleach and Hunter X Hunter sell in his first volume?

 

[and_123]

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WSJ #33 cover:

 

[Drmke]

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Very nice cover. Hope the actual series will be good enough to stay around awhile.

 

[Jabberwocky]

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WSJ #33 cover:

That does not look half bad as in it's not as bad as one might have thought.

 

[¬Bol]

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He reminds me Tetsuo, from Akira.

 

[Rejuvenation]

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Eh, I'm not impressed with the cover. Let's see if the first chapter is worthwhile.

 

[DeidaraGrimmjow]

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Eh, I'm not impressed with the cover. Let's see if the first chapter is worthwhile.

It already looks superior to the one-shot, don't you agree?

 

[Negative Syndicate]

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I am pretty satified with KUroko's 2nd volume sells. But, I'm beginning to worry that Kuroko might going to happen same way with Double Arts. So, does anyone knows that did Jump had a time that there are completely no sport series?

 

[Silverblade]

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I read through the last few pages - and still got confused. Someones cares to explain?
There are going to be three newcomers in Jump - Ane-doki, Kagijin and W-something. They all are starting in consequent issues. With those new additions Jump will have 20 series going.
Am I getting this right?

how much did Naruto, One Piece, Bleach and Hunter X Hunter sell in his first volume?

That is a very good question indeed.

 

[Siberia]

Re: Weekly Shounen Jump [2009] - Discussion & TOC Talk v.2

I read through the last few pages - and still got confused. Someones cares to explain?
There are going to be three newcomers in Jump - Ane-doki, Kagijin and W-something. They all are starting in consequent issues. With those new additions Jump will have 20 series going.
Am I getting this right?



That is a very good question indeed.

Considering HxH n DGM are absent ATM, before the next cut of existing series n I think u are rite.
If WSJ intends to keep around 20 series, HxH might be back after WSJ's next cut n DGM might leave WSJ as well. (Im not a WSJ expert so don't trust me)

 

[Koshi_Inaba]

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I don't get why people so freak out about bleach failing. Bleach sells more than 700k per volume. Even if it drop, it's not going to get canceled.
And about the next round of cut, has it been decided by jump or are they gonna have the serialization meeting again?