One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

[MeramEranomi]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

how bout the sea travel, seems to me its don't take just hours but days to get from on island to another

well actually, in the real world, if you travel around the world, it'll take around maybe 5 months, i'm talking about using ships like in the manga. so it kinda makes sense.

 

[ZeroChrome]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

I know, that's what I said above, @ Lord Rayleigh's analysis says it's been 90,5 days (3 month) and I find it very likely, although IMO some days are missing, so 4 month is may last answer.

here's the link to the discussion in Arlong Park. definitely a good read and well brought up i gotta tell ya.

it's not complete but judging from the calculations, I agree with you that their journey until the recent event probably has been at most 3 to 4 months top.

just speculation from my side


EDIT: some more links regarding on world timeline in OP that I've saved. here, here and also the lunar timeline theory here

like people always say, sharing is caring

 

[Razh]

Re: One Piece 559 Discussion/560 Predictions

it's not complete but judging from the calculations, I agree with you that their journey until the recent event probably has been at most 3 to 4 months top.

Problem is that those calculations mean nothing without the time that wasn't shown on the pages. Without it, it's just guessing.

 

[k-dom]

yes but I think that with a margin of 1 month we are not far from the reality, after all most of the arcs are very shorts beside Alabasta and Water seven

 

[elitefox]

wow SH in 4 months top assumnig mad a bounty of 300M for their leader luffy

and after this, assuming again that this is just a month and luffy's bounty will like be double about 600 m in 5 months lols

 

[OunknownO]

people are you crazy ????!!!!!

would you give up your life for a person that you know for 3 month... it's been over the 3-5 years since they met(zoro and luffy)... It's just not possible to travel with such an old ship in that short amount of time and the planet is not that small..... and the travel betwen kuja island and id means that kuja island is close. and why don't then just build bridges if islands are so close.... Magellan needed the to travel around the world took him three years but he didn't explore he just sail not staying anywhere, and count that there weren't many island on the ocean on which he could stop

 

[zerocooldx]

But this is fiction and a purely fictional world. Where anything is possible.

 

[Akainu]

that and it's a totally diffrent geology. the One Piece planet could be many times smaller and also probably has multiple moons. so earth standart doesn't even remotely work.
that aside, 3-5 years? Luffy would be 20-22 by now then, that's far less believable for me than a journey just under/about one year, largely depending on how much stuff happens off screen, that Oda doesn't show.
the time the SH needed to "conquer" GL isn't that abnormal btw., since other rookies like Ace also did it within that short amount of time, which makes me wonder if the WG is slowly but steadily loosing control over the first half too

 

[zerocooldx]

This is the OP "universe" but again it's all fiction so time in not an obstinate.

 

[pirateninjahunter]

Maybe, just maybe, Oda did not think about how time is passing by.

But at the same time I believe that Oda has already drawn a map of OP. And from that map of the world of OP he draws luffy's adventures.

 

[bittman]

I just have to say I don't believe Oda would draw a map.

Why not? Well maps are restrictive. Let's say you draw a map at the start of a story, and then 10 years later you realise "shit, I'd really like to put a jail in the calm belt, but I did this map...."

I always find maps in books (like Eragon for example) strange. I can look at the map of Eragon and go "ok, well he'll definitely be going there there and there with a possible detour to there" whilst the author still hasn't finished the last book.

 

[Akainu]

but that's only the case if he had published a full fledged map of the whole one piece world. as long as he only has it in his mind and maybe a sketch on his desk or bedroom or where ever, it's imo no problem as he can still alter it at will.
I for one don't believe that someone who planned out things like Brook/Labbon from the start to implement it after 10 years did NOT have a plan of the world how he wants it to be, at least roughly.

 

[goldb]

I agree with Akainu, Oda has planned OP down to the tinniest details. When I found out that characters like Brook and Hancock were already thought of back when OP started I was in awe. So it's not farfetched to say that he has a rough idea of how the OP world looks. What I would want is in the end for him to publish a book of locations and map of OP to detail out the places which the SHs have been as well as the other islands on the routes the other Supernovas took.

 

[Wowzers]

Oda probably does have a map. At first it would be general layout of the major features of the One Piece world. As he goes along he would add details and the picture becomes less fuzzy and more detailed... after all, if you were asked to sketch out a map of the world, you draw the continents first and do progressively smaller details. Rest assured, Oda can make this map as detailed as he likes.

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I just remembered something... "Here there be Dragons". That is what cartographers would write on a map when there was an unknown, unexplored area on it. I can just see Nami trying to fill in some details on a map in the future and guess who they find there.

 

[k-dom]

I agree with Akainu, Oda has planned OP down to the tinniest details. When I found out that characters like Brook and Hancock were already thought of back when OP started I was in awe. So it's not farfetched to say that he has a rough idea of how the OP world looks. What I would want is in the end for him to publish a book of locations and map of OP to detail out the places which the SHs have been as well as the other islands on the routes the other Supernovas took.

Brook and Hancock are not tiny things, they are a crew member and a shichibukay. That's the first characters Oda should have think about when he made the scenario of one piece.

 

[deffkryz]

people are you crazy ????!!!!!

No.

would you give up your life for a person that you know for 3 month...

There are people in the world that would give up there life for a pet they only have about for some weeks - some even care about running down frogs with a car. Luffy is a reliable friend, a rare and special type of character that give his life for his friends, his own dream and unites people with similar targets. So: Hell, yes! Having such a friend is only excelled by finding the true love[TM].

it's been over the 3-5 years since they met(zoro and luffy)...

No. All three Databooks deny this statement, and One Piece Yellow was published with the time frame up to the end of the Enies Lobby arc. There would have been definitely an update to the character pages about their ages.

It's just not possible to travel with such an old ship in that short amount of time and the planet is not that small.....

And your theory is based on what?

and the travel betwen kuja island and id means that kuja island is close. and why don't then just build bridges if islands are so close....

Because then, they wouldn't have to use ships to go on an adventure.

Magellan needed the to travel around the world took him three years but he didn't explore he just sail not staying anywhere, and count that there weren't many island on the ocean on which he could stop

Magellan's journey is a pretty bad example, since Magellan died in 1521 and he drove around whole continents - and only one out of five ships returned home. Luffy's route is more or less a straight line from Fushia to the Baratié, then a "backstep" to Coconut, then again a more or less straight line to Loguetown to Reverse Mountain - and from there they had as well a more or less straight equatorial route to the other side of the world.

If you want to compare, please take one of Columbus' four journeys from Spain to the Bahamas/Carribean. In his first journey Columbus took three months from Spain to the first island.

So - saying Luffy took three/four months from Fushia to Amazon Lily is assuming he's rather slow taking that route in comparison to real journeys.

 

[OunknownO]

No.



There are people in the world that would give up there life for a pet they only have about for some weeks - some even care about running down frogs with a car. Luffy is a reliable friend, a rare and special type of character that give his life for his friends, his own dream and unites people with similar targets. So: Hell, yes! Having such a friend is only excelled by finding the true love[TM].



No. All three Databooks deny this statement, and One Piece Yellow was published with the time frame up to the end of the Enies Lobby arc. There would have been definitely an update to the character pages about their ages.



And your theory is based on what?



Because then, they wouldn't have to use ships to go on an adventure.



Magellan's journey is a pretty bad example, since Magellan died in 1521 and he drove around whole continents - and only one out of five ships returned home. Luffy's route is more or less a straight line from Fushia to the Baratié, then a "backstep" to Coconut, then again a more or less straight line to Loguetown to Reverse Mountain - and from there they had as well a more or less straight equatorial route to the other side of the world.

If you want to compare, please take one of Columbus' four journeys from Spain to the Bahamas/Carribean. In his first journey Columbus took three months from Spain to the first island.

So - saying Luffy took three/four months from Fushia to Amazon Lily is assuming he's rather slow taking that route in comparison to real journeys.

how are you sure that oda showed the whole trip betwen island... maybe he showed just most interesting parts of the travel

 

[deffkryz]

how are you sure that oda showed the whole trip betwen island... maybe he showed just most interesting parts of the travel

Even if he did: Your own example from our own real history proves you wrong since your underestimating how fast a sailing ship can be once in hits the right sea current.

 

[OunknownO]

Even if he did: Your own example from our own real history proves you wrong since your underestimating how fast a sailing ship can be once in hits the right sea current.

If, if, if.... and it's a grand line hitting the right tide is like winning a jackpot... Why is there a brigde that should connect just two island the building is lasted 700 years

 

[deffkryz]

If, if, if.... and it's a grand line hitting the right tide is like winning a jackpot... Why is there a brigde that should connect just two island the building is lasted 700 years

Well... *sigh* What's your point? You doubted that the World of One Piece is smaller than Earth and came up with a curious theory to prove your statement that 3-5 years have passed since Luffy left Fushia Village - that's your big "if" and a wrong one. On the other hand there is a map of about on fourth of the World in OP. Here you are. and here's a sketch of the globe.

Oh... and btw: We can't answer why there's a bridge built for the last 700 years in the East Blue - because Oda just threw that as little fact itself without giving a reason. You really think they built it for the last 700 years just to connect two islands? Isn't it more obvious that they're connecting Western coast of the Red Line to the Easter one?

And from where did you get that "fact" about "hitting the right tide on the GL would be a jackpot"? That's a Navigator's job to get the ship into the best current... You don't think Nami did well?