One Piece Mega Convo Thread, the 2nd Chapter

[Black Lagoon]

I'm not sure about the Haki level, but I see Haki as something incredible ... something that wouldn't be given to anyone just like that, and if the weakest (in generals) get it, it'd be as if Sengoku's goat got one too. I mean, if Haki was that easy, IMO it'd not be so important, well ... this is how I see it.

he did killed them, thats part of the reazon his bounty was so high, (killing = bounty upgrade if not ask Kid)

It's been proved in the manga that the amount of a bounty is based on how much damage the criminal person accused of something can cause, Like Robin, if that was true then : has she killed someone, something or imagined it (she)? though, 79.000.000 beli/beri/berries were assigned to her when she was only eight years old. ~wow~ how could a little girl obtain such a high bounty? I mean, how many people she killed?

bounty, strength, "kill" ... have nothing in commune, well sure they have ... but not as you confirm.

 

[beastboy]

But smoker did say they were dead

 

[elitefox]

I got a dream lol,

Sogeking learns how to use Soru but only backwards

 

[deffkryz]

From the 569 Discussion / 570 Prediction thread:

But is there not two kinds of attacks using that method : I mean both begin like that ? Then, for one, Luffy changes the direction of his leg that turns into this kind of position before hitting.

And for the other, the foot just come back by itself where it was before Luffy began to stretch his leg (you can see it with the final attack Luffy used on Arlong). Do they have different names ? If not, why knowing they are different ?

I try to answer this... I might get a little too farfetched by explaining...

Well, the secont image shows the Gomu Gomu no Ono. The third image shows a Gomu Gomu no Muchi, if I read the RAW the right way, thus showing Luffy after the attack on Crocodile.

The Ono/Axe thingy is an attack where Luffy raises his leg into the air and crushes anything down below by simply stomping on it with his foot/sandals. (Image showing attack on Arlong)

In the Muchi attacks he stretches his leg and swings it around - in any direction from the top to the bottom or the left to the right etc. and hit his target with the backside of his leg and foot. (Image showing attack on Crocodile)

It's somehow like the difference between the Gomu Gomu no Pistol, Gomu Gomu no Bullet and Gomu Gomu no Rifle or the Gomu Gomu no Storm, Gomu Gomu no Hanabi and Gomu Gomu no Ame. There are distinct differences between those moves making them unique enough to give them a new name - and there are so many right now, I'm sure Oda could have filled a book only listing up attack names. How Luffy names his attacks depends on how he moves and which direction his attacks may take. In Gear 1 he names them English/Japanese based, in Gear 2 and 3 English-only... That's why it's the Gomu Gomu no Ono, Gomu Gomu no Jet Axe and Gomu Gomu no Gigant Axe.

 

[goldb]

I think you've got that more or less on the spot. It's true that one thing that used to trouble me is how to tell the difference between Gomu Gomu no Bullet and Pistol, Rifle is different as you can see his arm is twisting arm.

 

[monkey D luffy]

i would like to know if someone has found a difference between bullet and pistol as i wasnt able to find a distinction between the 2.

 

[no_regretsYSL]

i would like to know if someone has found a difference between bullet and pistol as i wasnt able to find a distinction between the 2.

The difference between the two lie in which arm he uses. Pistol = Right Arm, Bullet = Left Arm.

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

i would like to know if someone has found a difference between bullet and pistol as i wasnt able to find a distinction between the 2.

I think that with the pistol, he just stretches his arm into the direction of the enemy whereas with the bullet, he first stretches his arm behind him before throwing it to the enemy.

 

[deffkryz]

The difference between the two lie in which arm he uses. Pistol = Right Arm, Bullet = Left Arm.

No, wrong.

Pistol: Luffy stretches his arm to punch on mid-to-long-range
Bullet: Luffy stretches his arm to gain more force into his close-range punch.

That is the difference which you can find out if you take a look at that long fight between Luffy and Lucci (though most of Luffy's attacks are done with Gear 2)

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

The difference between the two lie in which arm he uses. Pistol = Right Arm, Bullet = Left Arm.

That's totally wrong. You just have to see the Gomu Gomu no Bullet shown in the last chapter : done with his right arm.

 

[frontaLobotomy]

I always thought the difference was that one was a standing attack (bullet), while the other was while moving (pistol).

 

[elitefox]

No, wrong.

Pistol: Luffy stretches his arm to punch on mid-to-long-range
Bullet: Luffy stretches his arm to gain more force into his close-range punch.

That is the difference which you can find out if you take a look at that long fight between Luffy and Lucci (though most of Luffy's attacks are done with Gear 2)

Wow you notice that

Good to know the difference between those haha, didn't care or notice until now.

Oda can really make some crazy attacks with rubber, maybe he is a military scientist of some degree

 

[Kaku]

I think the major difference between his Bullet and Pistol is just like Lord Rayleigh said.

Bullet: Before hitting he stretches his arm far behind his back to gain more power.
Pistol: His doesn't stretch his arm behind his back. Only a bit.

 

[camil222]

I think the major difference between his Bullet and Pistol is just like Lord Rayleigh said.

Bullet: Before hitting he stretches his arm far behind his back to gain more power.
Pistol: His doesn't stretch his arm behind his back. Only a bit.

yes youre right on that but when luffy fought blueno and ussop, he used that same attack exept named them pistol instead. dont know why they decided to change the name there.

ooo and i just reread the manga and have you guys seen when luffy used that attack on coby, coby was drooling or bubling or wtv out of his mouth. could this mean luffy used haki when he punched him? the reason why i believe that is the only time weve seen luffys enemies do the same was when he used haki. ( but perona did the same against ussop, but it doesnt really count )

 

[Guru Nanak]

Pistol---Land a hit and while his fist is on the enemy's face, he stretch?

Bullet --- Far stretch..like his fist is the real bullet thing speeding its way to ur face.

btw:

Did Sentoumaru push Luffy back or is this the same kind of barrier the 3 Admirals use to block the attack a few chapters ago?
http://www.onemanga.com/One_Piece/511/13/

 

[deffkryz]

Bullet --- Far stretch..like his fist is the real bullet thing speeding its way to ur face.

True: Coby and Crocodile were hit in the face. But Luffy could have also striked onto the belly.

Oh and before someone comes to point out that Pistol and Bullet are the same though.

Spoiler

THIS is a complete failure: The initial Kanji say Pistol, and the second part isn't "machine gun" but "Shot"...

I don't want to bash or offend anyone but that is... just a false "translation".

yes youre right on that but when luffy fought blueno and ussop, he used that same attack exept named them pistol instead. dont know why they decided to change the name there.

Well... Bruno blocked the Bullet with Tekkai kenpo back in Chapter after Luffy fell back... And Luffy mostly evaded Brunos attacks before starting Gear 2. But there's nothing wrong with the Luffy vs. Usopp fight in Chapter 344. Luffy used Pistol before that Impact, and his final move is the Bullet.

Did you read the raw or a scan?

 

[beastboy]

No, wrong.

Pistol: Luffy stretches his arm to punch on mid-to-long-range
Bullet: Luffy stretches his arm to gain more force into his close-range punch.

That is the difference which you can find out if you take a look at that long fight between Luffy and Lucci (though most of Luffy's attacks are done with Gear 2)

Thats it...

Bullet: Luffy is at a dstance were any normal human could throw a punch, but he streches is arm behind to speed it up.

Pistol: He is far from the target, streches is arm behind.. and then does the exact same thing, except that the arm loses speed while streching forword to reach the target.

So while pistol is a warming up attack, bullet is a finisher... on the level of a Gomu Gomu no bazooka..

I know I repeated what deff said.. but I had to explain this.. xD.. Its so obvious for me that I didn't know there were persons with that doubt...

 

[chess4]

i cant wait to see the other shichibukai crews

this is what i think

boa-her crew is not that strong from what we have seen. luffy took on the 2nd and 3rd strongest members at same time. yes he is strong, but compared to the dawgs we have seen in this war, he isnt that strong. maybe as a crew they are pretty tough, but i guess we will see.

gecko-his crew is weak. without land pulling oars, his crew is pretty worthless. like i said in the other thread, i think oars jr will sadly become his puppet.

blackbeard-regardless of what anyone thinks, BB is a serious threat to become pirate king. his crew is one of the more interesting crews, since i think they are just a darker version of the strawhats. his crew has some nice pieces, and with the addition of shiryuu there crew will be a force in the new world. SIDENOTE i still think BB will recruit the 3 super pirates on level 6 in impel down.

kuma-we never saw his crew and probably never will. if anything the real kuma will lead the pacifista army since he is a full cyborg now.

doflamingo-the only people we have seen thats represented him are the bellamy pirates. he slughtered him for being 2 weak, so if he does have a crew, im sure they are strong and just as crazy.

jinbei-he crew was the sunny pirates. arlong and his crew are remnants of them, and they were tough(for east blue). im sure the sunny pirates are some dawgs though. they are probably made up of the strongest fishman on the island, so i can t wait to see them.

mihawk- i have no clue about. every time we see him, he is alone so maybe he has no crew. maybe he joins up with shanks cre after this, but i doubt it

 

[Gats]

i cant wait to see the other shichibukai crews

this is what i think

boa-her crew is not that strong from what we have seen. luffy took on the 2nd and 3rd strongest members at same time. yes he is strong, but compared to the dawgs we have seen in this war, he isnt that strong. maybe as a crew they are pretty tough, but i guess we will see.

gecko-his crew is weak. without land pulling oars, his crew is pretty worthless. like i said in the other thread, i think oars jr will sadly become his puppet.

blackbeard-regardless of what anyone thinks, BB is a serious threat to become pirate king. his crew is one of the more interesting crews, since i think they are just a darker version of the strawhats. his crew has some nice pieces, and with the addition of shiryuu there crew will be a force in the new world. SIDENOTE i still think BB will recruit the 3 super pirates on level 6 in impel down.

kuma-we never saw his crew and probably never will. if anything the real kuma will lead the pacifista army since he is a full cyborg now.

doflamingo-the only people we have seen thats represented him are the bellamy pirates. he slughtered him for being 2 weak, so if he does have a crew, im sure they are strong and just as crazy.

jinbei-he crew was the sunny pirates. arlong and his crew are remnants of them, and they were tough(for east blue). im sure the sunny pirates are some dawgs though. they are probably made up of the strongest fishman on the island, so i can t wait to see them.

mihawk- i have no clue about. every time we see him, he is alone so maybe he has no crew. maybe he joins up with shanks cre after this, but i doubt it

Boa crew has something specific that makes it very dangerous : Haki commonly used. It means that every amazon warrior can hit a DF user, even Logia. Even an Admiral would be careful if he has to step in their Island or boat full of Haki users, even if their brute strength are not amazing.

 

[chess4]

Boa crew has something specific that makes it very dangerous : Haki commonly used. It means that every amazon warrior can hit a DF user, even Logia. Even an Admiral would be careful if he has to step in their Island or boat full of Haki users, even if their brute strength are not amazing.

just look how much trouble they had with luffy. if one of the admirals had to fight ALL the kuja warriors, they would get wiped out. they would have a false sense of security since they think haki is exclusive to them.