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[kkck]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Well, I read leorio was an emission type -wikipedia- and according to the imp that travels with kurapika he was apparently meant to be a teacher or a doctor. In other words, Leorio has the personality and the nen type to develop a healing related ability. I doubt it would be like what that ant can do though.

 

[Hamy]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

im not talking about him being dead. I meant that Pitou may (or may not) have the power to bring her back to life. And now that pitou thinks he has the upper hand. he wont bother saving Kaito.

Err I think resurrection is a bit of a stretch for an ability, which to me seems very unlikely. After all if Pitou could indeed do resurrection. Besides from chapter 274-275 Pitou's ability was always referred to as a healing ability, that and the condition of Komugi was in the critical zone (if Pitou could indeed resurrect I doubt he'd be as worried about the operation being done) while Kaito definitely got killed when he was decapitated. Now considering the difference when they both awakened I'd say the idea of a soul would explain that.

Interestingly enough when re-reading those chapters again it seems Doctor Blythe ability uses up a lot of nen. I wonder if the remaining amount of Nen that Pitou has is roughly the same as what Gon has, that and he broke his right arm (I wonder if Togashi will remember that detail), so if they do fight I do hope those factors will help in evening things out.

 

[kkck]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

I don't really think dr blythe uses THAT much of nen. By comparison it seems the RG's nen level is at about 700000 while gon barely pulls 21000. I am sure gon's rock would deal damage even to an ant but overall I doubt pitou used enough nen for him to be able to match pito.

 

[Wowzers]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

I'm beginning to wonder if Pitou realized that the phone call was a fake.
Possible reasons why she would:
1) Has Komugi ever referred to any of the Royal guards by name?
2) Does she realize the nature of Welfin's and Brovuda's abilities so knows it would be extremely unlikely they could free Komugi from Gon's allies.... at least without killing Komugi. Not to mention they would likely be overpowered.
3) Pitou just spent 1 hour healing Komugi so she has some insight about Komugi that Pufu wouldn't have had so the call was recognized as a fake.

In any case, if she recognized the call as a fake, she is probably extremely disturbed right now. Some of her thoughts might be:
1) If they attempted a rescue of Komugi and succeeded, the call would be real and not fake.
2) If they attempted a rescue of Komugi and failed, they would just blame the humans for her death and tell her to kill Gon and return.
3) If they attempted a rescue of Komugi and failed but Komugi survived, they wouldn't have reported anything.
4) A fake phone call means that fellow ants are lying to her and putting Komugi at risk. They are dead when she gets back.
5) Who could have faked Komugi's voice?? There isn't a long list of suspects for her to filter through.

 

[kkck]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

found some spoilers in naruto fan:

Spoiler

663 ：んじゃ ◆bvOTKk1mXg ：2010/04/14(水) 00:55:54 IDbY5mN1N0
では…

自分が殺した　いや　ピトーが殺した　いや自分がいかなければ…
と苦悩するゴン　ピトーが能力を出し
ゴン　ああ…やっぱり嘘だったのか…治療してくれるんだね…
ピトー自分の腕を治し始める
ゴン　なんで？カイトを先に治療してよ…

んでキルアに
パーム　なぜかゴンが地に腕をついてあいつが腕を治療してんのよ
キルア　なんだって？声は聞こえないのか？
パーム　私の能力は観えるけど声は聞こえないの…
あせるキルア達に
小さいプフ　ピトーにはもう娘を奪還したって嘘の情報を教えたからね
　　　　　　仲間を救いたいならその娘を渡せ　そうすれピトーをとめてやる
キルア　だまれ　　小さいプフは瞬殺

キルア　パームそのこを頼む　
パーム　私の水晶？に誓ってこの子は絶対に蟻達には渡さないわ

キルア　ゴン！俺がいくまでまってろ！！

で電光石火つかってペイジンへ
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730 ：んじゃ ◆bvOTKk1mXg ：2010/04/14(水) 01:00:48 IDbY5mN1N0
ゴン達に戻り

ピトー治療が終わり　ゴン…君を殺さなければならない。王のために
ゴン　　僕を殺す？やっぱり治してくれないんだね…
ゴン　　うそつき　とぼそっと言った所で
白紙に　黒い点のようなものが大きくなり
ゴン　　もうこれで最後でいいだからありったけの…
ゴンに黒いオーラの様なものが集まっていき

ピトー　（ブルブル震えながら）わたしは間違っていなかった…

完全に黒くなったゴン　　ピトー貴様を殺す！！！！！！！！！！

で終わりです　　　　　ゴン＞＜

Late spoiler from nja. Help yourself with online translator till we get a proper translation
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Edit-more from nja ,

975 ：んじゃ ◆bvOTKk1mXg ：2010/04/14(水) 01:15:53 IDbY5mN1N0
最後に　絵が雑になってきてるから次はあるんでしょうか…

真っ黒ゴンとか　ナルトの九尾暴走で黒くなった感じの
塗りつぶされてる感じの黒でしたね～
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71 ：んじゃ ◆bvOTKk1mXg ：2010/04/14(水) 01:21:44 IDbY5mN1N0
あと　ピトーと黒ゴンが対峙する場面でピトーが新しい能力みたいなの
だしてましたね　忘れちゃいましたが　黒い洋服来た踊り子っぽいの召還してた
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268 ：んじゃ ◆bvOTKk1mXg ：2010/04/14(水) 01:41:46 IDbY5mN1N0
わたし・僕はあってないよ多分ｗ

いろいろ読んでかいてるから正確に覚えてらんないです

脳内変換よろ＞＜

Spoiler

Originally Posted by SGLP View Post
Quote:
Pitou begins to heal his arm. Gon looks like he's starting to lose it ("ah, so you'll heal him after all? eh, but why are you healing yourself? say, you have to heal Kaito first!"... poor child...).

Killua doesn't like the direction that events are taking. Palm explains that she doesn't understand what's hapening (since she doesn't have the sound, only the image). Mini Pufu explains to them that it was his fault, that if they agree to give him Komugi he would stop Pitou. Killua kills Mini Pufu to shut him once and for all. He entrusts Palm with Komugi and goes to join Gon with his speed.

Pitou finishes healing his arm, and tells Gon that he will have to kill him for the sake of the king.
Gon is losing it: "You're gonna kill me? So you won't heal him? Liar..."
According to Nja, Gon is Kyûbi-like on the next pages.
Pitou is afraid from this transformation and tells himself that he wasn't wrong about Gon after all.
Gon: KILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILLKILL
Apparently, Pito uses a new ability in the end of the chapter, maybe an offensive one that we didn't know about.
Was translated from french by Raad at nexGear.

Sounds like a pretty awesome chapter.

Spoiler

Originally Posted by DarkLordOfKichiku View Post
Let' see..

Pitou starts to heal his arm. Gon gets a sorta dark aura (Nja says it reminds him/her of Naruto's kyuubi mode). Palm reports what's happening, but she can't hear, only see. Chibi-Pufu threathens Killua with that his friend will die unless he hands over Komugi. Killua tells him to shut up and kills the chibi-Pufu, then heads to where Gon is. Pitou finishes healing his arm, then tells Gon that for the king's sake, he has to kill him. Gon's dark aura gets gigger and Pitou trembles, thinking that his choice wasn't wrong. Gon tells Pitout hat he'll kill him ("I'll kill you, you bastard!", literally). and that's it.

Edit: Oops, two minutes too late. Ah well...

 

[Kaos-Sensei]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

yea i knew this chap pitou was gonna try and kill gon... ever since gon put fear into her she has made that choice..now gon go super sayin and kill freeza cuz krilin is dead lol

 

[hunter71485]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Gon's gone 9-tails Super Saiyan Gear Second Hollowfication. Really awesome.

 

[Shiro-kun]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Its kinda creepy too
The spoiler has Gon saying "killkillkillkillkillkillkillkill"

He's snapped and rolled off into the deep end , this whole ordeal is already starting to leave very dark imprints on his personality... By now it really does seem his development is in sharp contrast to Killua's development...

If you are saying he going into acended level , Gon might like act like Gohan which whom turned into a Some Sadistic Horror Child upon his transformation into SJ2 (although short lived holy crap did it stick) or like Ichigo's Hollow /Naruto'sKyuubi will have Darkside personality (in this case Gon develops a split personality..)

 

[Pavitre]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

I wrote this a while ago that the ant king would be the final villain and that gon and killua will be the one to beat him and no one else, but some people said that its impossible for them to beat him cause they'r not that powerful.

And I freakin told them that all gon and killua need is to go over extreme emotional and they'll get their powerups and here it comes......
imagining gon and killua at the level of netero and the ant king is not a huge miracle like some guys were saying earlier, these are our protagonists for god's sake, they are bound to get powerful than them sooner or later, granted both are not at their level right now, but it's pretty much expected that they will be.

 

[ClinoJustu]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Some pics of 305

http://www.imagebam.com/image/54615876523954

http://www.imagebam.com/image/2a962576527699

http://www.imagebam.com/image/95976f76527703

http://www.imagebam.com/image/cbc15c76527706

 

[kkck]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Not sure how I fell about gons transformation... Is it some ability that awakened due to the anger?

 

[ClinoJustu]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

I think his anger transform his aura in a black one and she is consume him .
(guess from the picture)

 

[IamJacky]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Spoiler

I wrote this a while ago that the ant king would be the final villain and that gon and killua will be the one to beat him and no one else, but some people said that its impossible for them to beat him cause they'r not that powerful.

And I freakin told them that all gon and killua need is to go over extreme emotional and they'll get their powerups and here it comes......
imagining gon and killua at the level of netero and the ant king is not a huge miracle like some guys were saying earlier, these are our protagonists for god's sake, they are bound to get powerful than them sooner or later, granted both are not at their level right now, but it's pretty much expected that they will be.

I highly doubt it. Judging from the spoiler I am convinced that YES, Gon is now probably able to put up a very decent fight with Pitou, still my guess is that ultimately Pitou will have the upper hand regardless, I think the climatic turning point emerges when Killua arrives.

IMO no matter how angry Gon is right now, he is still no where near King's level. Yes, if he trained hard enough for long enough one day he would maybe (though still unlikely) to be life-threateningly strong to King, but I still doubt it. Gon can be a super kid, Killua can also be a super kid. They can form a super team, but the King is now just a newborn, and the guy can consume aura by eating people, and if Gon trains to be stronger through time, I think King will only grow stronger.

IMO, Gon's reaction is really freaky, but King's all blacked-out face when he was holding the wounded Komugi was equally scary, if not scarier.

Having the protagonist training/pissed off then become super strong seems to be the staple for most main stream shouen manga, but come on, it's played out - Goku (vs. Freeza), Gohan (vs. Cell - one of the most classic moment of my time), Yousuke (vs. 120% and Sensui), Naruto... it's very captivating, but it can be lame.

I think his anger transform his aura in a black one and she is consume him .
(guess from the picture)

I don't think Pitou is consuming Gon's aura, instead it's the reverse; it looks like Gon's aura is absorbing the surrounding energy, even Pitou's. That long black thing seems to be Gon's hair, it looks like Gon's going through some physical transformation.

edit: BTW thanks so much for the spoiler pics and translations, a weekly dose of HxH completes me! HxH is so good now I'm starting to think that all the hiatus was for developing the plots!

And I know it's been discussed, but is Pitou really male? I mean, Pitou has boobs XD!

 

[ClinoJustu]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Spoiler

""I don't think Pitou is consuming Gon's aura, instead it's the reverse; it looks like Gon's aura is absorbing the surrounding energy, even Pitou's. That long black thing seems to be Gon's hair, it looks like Gon's going through some physical transformation.""


Oh, i don't think that's pitou who is consuming Gons aura , but gon's black aura who is consuming himself and tranform him.

But we will surly fixed when chapter will out

 

[Pavitre]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Spoiler

I highly doubt it. Judging from the spoiler I am convinced that YES, Gon is now probably able to put up a very decent fight with Pitou, still my guess is that ultimately Pitou will have the upper hand regardless, I think the climatic turning point emerges when Killua arrives.

IMO no matter how angry Gon is right now, he is still no where near King's level. Yes, if he trained hard enough for long enough one day he would maybe (though still unlikely) to be life-threateningly strong to King, but I still doubt it. Gon can be a super kid, Killua can also be a super kid. They can form a super team, but the King is a newborn, and if Gon trains to be stronger through time, I think King will only grow stronger.

IMO, Gon's reaction is really freaky, but so was King's all blacked-out face when he was holding the wounded Komugi, if not scarier.

Having the protagonist training/pissed off then become super strong seems to be the staple for most main stream shouen manga, but come on, it's played out - Goku (vs. Freeza), Gohan (vs. Cell - one of the most classic moment of my time), Yousuke (vs. 120% and Sensui), Naruto... it's very captivating, but it can be lame.

Spoiler

no way, your implying gon and killua will never be able to beat ant king, which is simply not true, in the end the king will be beaten by these two only, no matter how strong the king may get. i'm not sure how the pitou fight will turn out but if there's anyone now who is a potential threat or competitor to the king then it's gon, killua, grandpa assassin. gon and killua are obviously gonna overtake other nen users in the future

also your underestimating the the huge powerup's these emotional moments can bring to characters, these situations are often the first steps to attaining much higher powers for any hero or villain characters.

the king as already been decided as evil now with all the human domination crap he's pulling, it's major time to get these char some much needed upgrades now

 

[stephen80]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

chapter 305 out on raw paradise

 

[ClinoJustu]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

Thanks, just watch it and damn !

Spoiler

Not really more details with gon's tranformation(?)
But good news that kirua go to Gon , maybe we'll assit to a Kirua VS. Gon ; imagine : Gon beat easily Pitou and can't quiet down himself and want to destroy everything around him (like kyubi "Naruto") , kirua arrives and have to stop him.Pretty exiting

 

[Dive]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

I wrote this a while ago that the ant king would be the final villain and that gon and killua will be the one to beat him and no one else, but some people said that its impossible for them to beat him cause they'r not that powerful.

And I freakin told them that all gon and killua need is to go over extreme emotional and they'll get their powerups and here it comes......
imagining gon and killua at the level of netero and the ant king is not a huge miracle like some guys were saying earlier, these are our protagonists for god's sake, they are bound to get powerful than them sooner or later, granted both are not at their level right now, but it's pretty much expected that they will be.

You know what I like about Togashi? He hardly does, "Emotional time = extreme badass where anything and everything can be destroyed." He tries to steer clear of those situations. In Yu Yu Hakusho, especially in the beginning, Togashi had Yusuke win by sheer dumb luck many a time. Sure, when someone feels strongly about something, it makes them more determined, but it also makes them fight stupidly. Their only intent is to focus all their power to destroy, and it leaves them open. Think of it like baseball. You really want that home run so bad. You're up at the plate and you swing with all of your might! Chances are, you will strike out and look like a loser in the process.

 

[Pavitre]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

You know what I like about Togashi? He hardly does, "Emotional time = extreme badass where anything and everything can be destroyed." He tries to steer clear of those situations. In Yu Yu Hakusho, especially in the beginning, Togashi had Yusuke win by sheer dumb luck many a time. Sure, when someone feels strongly about something, it makes them more determined, but it also makes them fight stupidly. Their only intent is to focus all their power to destroy, and it leaves them open. Think of it like baseball. You really want that home run so bad. You're up at the plate and you swing with all of your might! Chances are, you will strike out and look like a loser in the process.

well there's a start for everything and he's doing it now. why does everyone keep opposing the extreme emotional powerup win factor, well infact it's the most tried ans tested method.
gon and killua will face ant king in the end and even if they dont beat the king, and somehow the king changes to good in the end even after winning then also that situation will be satisfactory, and unless the mnagaka doesn't decide that and chooses to end with a fight then obviously they'll beat the king

sure training will take you far places but only so far, after that to cross the barrier you undoubtedly require the emotional breakthrough, to surpass the limits, and if didnt happen before in the hunterxhunter then it's happening now and will keep happening to beat someone like the ant king who's the strongest fighter yet we'v seen in the manga

also this emo powerup was pretty much expected of gon since he's that type of kid, unlike killua who's calculating in his moves, it wouldn't suit him, heck even the ant generals went through changes cause of this

 

[Dive]

Re: Hunter x Hunter by Togashi Yoshihiro

well there's a start for everything and he's doing it now. why does everyone keep opposing the extreme emotional powerup win factor

Because it's one of the most used cliches in manga. And HxH has done rather well on staying away from pretty typical cliches.

gon and killua will face ant king in the end

Who says that Gon and Killua will be there? Togashi hasn't exactly kept with that cliche where the main protagonists fight against the evil. Gon and Killua didn't fight Chrollo at the Yorkshin finale. In fact, they didn't even have a real fight against any of the Spider members during that arc.

sure training will take you far places but only so far, after that to cross the barrier you undoubtedly require the emotional breakthrough, to surpass the limits

Netero seemed like an even-headed gentleman. He never seemed frustrated at all during his fight with the King, even when he knew this battle meant his death and that he was outclassed. He meditated when he was younger, which I'm sure he kept until his death. He does not seem the type that required an emotional push to achieve what he did.

Besides, remember Kurapika's nen tutor? He said revenge will get someone nowhere, which is true. I honestly see that as foreshadowing, and I can see Kurapika losing his life in his crusade to eliminate the Spiders. Kinda off-topic on the last part. But the second sentence is what I was going for.

and if didnt happen before in the hunterxhunter then it's happening now and will keep happening to beat someone like the ant king who's the strongest fighter yet we'v seen in the manga

Do you really think that Gon and Killua combined will be able to take out the King? Something a bomb of that magnitude couldn't do (which surely would have taken out Gon and Killua)? Something Netero couldn't do? Killua will not have that emotional punch that Gon has. Kite barely meant anything to Killua, other than being Gon's friend.

I wrote this a while ago that the ant king would be the final villain

No he will not. What about all the Spiders? And Hisoka? The King will not be the last villain. There are too many open threads that need closed. This arc is probably very misplaced, because the King seems like he would be the ultimate villain, but Togashi has made too many subplots that need finished.