Which Straw Hat has the saddest backstory?

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Does no one remember how bland Usopp's backstory was?

I mean come on
 

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usopp past was not tragic in comparison to the others
 

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usopp past was not tragic in comparison to the others
No way, losing my mother would be a huge blow to me especially if I were that small. It's fascinating that Usopp is as lively as he was/is. However, his flashback was not as long or developed as chopper, robin, brooke or franky. It was very early in the manga, even before nami. So, I feel it was not as good as the recent SW crew.
 

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Yeah losing your mom is tough, but the main element was that the entire town thought he was an ass, which was entirely his fault.
 

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I would have to agree and say Brook had it the worst. Robin is a close second, she was an outcast since she was very little and she didn't know who her mother was. On the day that she had finally met her mother, her mother stayed behind on Ohara and died. Just as she was accepted into the Scholars of Ohara their place of study and all of the Scholars themselves killed. The friend she made before that, Jaguar D. Sauls died trying to save her life. She was left to run knowing that an Admiral would chase her down at any moment. She went through life making nakama who would quickly sell her out to the government, ever truly befriending someone until she came into the Straw Hat crew. Betrayal is the feeling she had to deal with most of her life and with no lasting connection with anyone it must have been very tough.

Brook though, had lived a full life before what happened. He had lived, loved, and gone through most of the first half of the Grand Line. He had a dear nakama that he left back with Crocus. In the Florian Triangle, he and his crew had been fatally poisoned during battle, and through the song watched his crew members drop like flies, while he still continued to live. Then when he had finally tasted death so he could move on, he came back to life on the same ship. There he lived for 50 more years as he watched his nakama's bodies rot to the bone living with only a fainter and fainter memory of what it was like to have contact with another living soul. Then to top it all off, his shadow was stolen by a Shichibukai, so there was no way he could ever leave the Florian Triangle to see Laboon again because he would disintegrate. There was no way to tell what time it was, whether it was day or night, just how much time has passed. If I were in his shoes, I would have jumped in the water and been done with it. His determination is insurmountable.
 

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I cried for Robin's, mostly with Saul.

I assume you have never nearly starved to death.
I assumed that NEARLY starving to death once is not more tragic than having someone close to you die, or everyone for that matter.

So yea it seems to me that Sanji had it the easiest out of all the straw hats.
 

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I assumed that NEARLY starving to death once is not more tragic than having someone close to you die, or everyone for that matter.

So yea it seems to me that Sanji had it the easiest out of all the straw hats.
Nearly starving to death, losing everyone you know on an attack, being stuck on a deserted island with no hope of rescue (and completely alone, since Zeff refused to talk to him). Sanji's past was more of a test of will, and he managed to survive thanks to the kindness of the very man who put him into the situation, it may not be as 'tragic' but it was not by any means easy.


Compared to a kid who lost his mom, and despite having a town full of people of potential friends, decides to be an asshole and purposely prank and annoy all the said townspeople to the point where they chase him out of town. Usopp had it the easiest, because his situation was brought upon himself, all of the other members of the crew had their early lives ruined by forces outside of their own control.
 

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Nearly starving to death, losing everyone you know on an attack, being stuck on a deserted island with no hope of rescue (and completely alone, since Zeff refused to talk to him). Sanji's past was more of a test of will, and he managed to survive thanks to the kindness of the very man who put him into the situation, it may not be as 'tragic' but it was not by any means easy.


Compared to a kid who lost his mom, and despite having a town full of people of potential friends, decides to be an asshole and purposely prank and annoy all the said townspeople to the point where they chase him out of town. Usopp had it the easiest, because his situation was brought upon himself, all of the other members of the crew had their early lives ruined by forces outside of their own control.

It was "easy," just like how a little cut might hurt but compared to a gunshot wound, so yes it was VERY easy.

Usopp decided to be an asshole eh? I am going to assume that you did not understand the relationship that he had with the villagers, because you obviously do not. If you want a better understanding just go back and read it again and tell me what the townspeople did the day that usopp did not do his little prank. go back and read........ i'll wait.

Now i understand that you're a stubborn person and you do not want to be wrong or you have a hard time accepting that you're wrong, i understand that. But if you sit there and tell me that you would prefer to have your father leave you as a child (yes he was proud of it but that still doesnt justify it) then having your mom die and growing up as an orphan, over ALMOST starving to death, being lonely (because his loneliness can be compared to usopp's..... right) then gaining a father figure out of all that............. then there's no hope for you.

so plz sit there and tell me that you would prefer going through what Usopp went through and not what Sanji went through. If you can tell me that then go and apologize to your mother, tell her that you would rather have her die than you ALMOST starving to death.
So i will again say that Sanji had it the easiest out of all the Straw hats. If you still think that what usopp went through is easier then good for you mayne, it's still a matter of opinion in the end. and as they say; an opinion can't be wrong.

that's all there is to say, this will be my last post in this thread because it is really hard to deal with stubborn people.

peace.
 
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Well.

I'm not sure any of the SH had it easier than any other..
Seems to me all of the tragic things in their pasts would be scarring.
But since the question who has the saddest back story, it's not even about who had it worst, but the saddest. Yes IMO that's different.

I'd say Robin's or maybe Chopper's story was the saddest IMO.
Both were outcasts from their homelands and their peers. So from the outset they were sad and alone.. then both found acceptance and had it taken from them. I almost cried during Chopper's back story so that had some impact. But I guess in the End Robin's might be the saddest IMO.

Who had it worst.. all of them.
 

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Nearly starving to death, losing everyone you know on an attack, being stuck on a deserted island with no hope of rescue (and completely alone, since Zeff refused to talk to him). Sanji's past was more of a test of will, and he managed to survive thanks to the kindness of the very man who put him into the situation, it may not be as 'tragic' but it was not by any means easy.


Compared to a kid who lost his mom, and despite having a town full of people of potential friends, decides to be an asshole and purposely prank and annoy all the said townspeople to the point where they chase him out of town. Usopp had it the easiest, because his situation was brought upon himself, all of the other members of the crew had their early lives ruined by forces outside of their own control.
Usopp didn't annoy them, they cared about him.
 

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so plz sit there and tell me that you would prefer going through what Usopp went through and not what Sanji went through. If you can tell me that then go and apologize to your mother, tell her that you would rather have her die than you ALMOST starving to death.
I'll admit your argument has more merit, but this was just rude.
 

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Um... Shouldn't Zoro be a candidate for "easiest" backstory? I think most of us have lost a close childhood friend...
 

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I'll admit your argument has more merit, but this was just rude.

yeah....... now that i think about it, it was a bit rude. I apologize for that, kinda got caught up in the moment. i'm sorry about that one.

it occurred to me though; there's still a bit that we don't know about (actually i recall reading something like this in this thread before) Sanji and Zoro's history. There's still a bit left to learn about them considering they were both orphans.


Um... Shouldn't Zoro be a candidate for "easiest" backstory? I think most of us have lost a close childhood friend...
that's a pretty good point.
 
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yeah....... now that i think about it, it was a bit rude. I apologize for that, kinda got caught up in the moment. i'm sorry about that one.
S'all good


Learning about Zoro and Sanji's history would be pretty neat, like they turn out to be relatives or something (just another thing to add to Oda's shit list on Sanji, but highly unlikely). I think that both of them must have lost their parents in war, that or they were abandoned. Although, since they don't seem to mention anything about their parents, I'd imagine it's not that big of a deal in the first place.

Fraaanky's lineage on the other hand could lead to some very interesting storytelling.
 

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1. Robin
2. Brook
3. Nami and Luffy
4. Sanji
5. Ussop and Franky
6. Zoro

If Ace dying now counted as part of Luffy's backstory, he would easily be number one.
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Anyways, you can't really have an order that everyone will agree with because how sad something is to one person might be different for another. It's pointless to argue because the list is purely opinion and not fact.
 
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@Naruffy: No, but Sabo counts.

I still wouldn't rank Luffy's past up in the top though, to Luffy loosing Sabo is just as sad as Zorro loosing Kuina.

And you can have a list... I think, just take count of whose voted for what and you get a rough unanimus average (whatever the words I'm looking for) answer
 

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i would say chooper ime a dude and i cried for like an hour when i saw the 8th movie (i think) of chopper and he was rejected by his parent family friends people and almost everybody he knew!!
 

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I honestly have a hard time saying. Robin's was one of the more heartrending for me if only because of what she had to live through all those years, but I have an argument for quite a few of them.

One thing that I noticed though, about Zoro, is that if you think about what we've been shown of his childhood, he might very well count. We haven't seen him with any sort of parents, and he just shows up out of nowhere like a street orphan challenging the dojo. Nami, Sanji, Usopp, Robin, Brooke, Luffy, Franky, and Chopper all at least had someone there for them, even if they did die or were left behind. However, I didn't see anything like that with Zoro. The only sort of close relationship we're ever presented with is the rivalry between him an Kuina. Now, that might be reading too far into it, but if it's true, Zoro lost someone who was probably much closer to family than friend. Or, you know, I'm grasping at air.

Also, about Luffy, in the flashback we got a glimpse of just how much he relied on Ace and Sabo. Remember, this was the kid that was willing to get beaten to the point where he couldn't even scream anymore rather than lose Ace's trust and friendship. To him, being alone was more painful. That implies that, besides Ace and Sabo, he had no one while living with Dadan. His grandfather wasn't always there, Makino and mayor couldn't always visit, and there were no other kids his age. Having Sabo die must have felt like losing half of his world. And, depending on whether or not Ace's death counts as a backstory now, Luffy must feel like he's lost the other half. I mean, his original driving force for becoming strong was so no one else he cared for would be lost like Sabo was. Ace's painful promise to live so that Luffy wouldn't have to be alone, Luffy going through the equivalence of hell itself to reach his brother, only to have him die protecting him. AND, if you think about it, it's not just Ace. Over the course of the last week, he's lost every single thing precious to him. From his inability to save his crew to his brother.

Well, that isn't to say I think Zoro and Luffy have it worse off. I just felt like trying to even the playing field XD.

By the way, something that really hit home for me about Brooke's backstory... I don't know if everyone's read Chapter 0, but there's just something about seeing Brook there, all alone, while the rest of the cast are either children or haven't been born yet. It's just.... it's when you realize just how long Brooke's been alone that I guess it feels more heartrending.
 

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The saddest back story would have to be Chopper, followed by Robin. Ever since Chopper ate the devil fruit, he was hunted and beat up and chased out of towns. Neither people or animals accepted him into their ranks. He was all alone, scared, hurt, depressed (im sure) angry, etc. etc. And this went on and on, it's not like he lived like this for a day and then everything was alright. Yes, he did find happiness eventually, but throughout all of this he still tried to remain nice and caring.

Robin on the other hand had one really crappy day when the Marines blew up her town, her mom rejected her (at first) etc. I know seeing your people be massacred must have been really tough both mentally and physically, but that only lasted a day. After that, Robin decided to be "bad" so to speak. Again, I understand her personality directly resulted from what she's been through, but Chopper still had it worst IMO.

Usopp had the happiest back story. Zoro would probably be in third place.
 

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Pfft, I just realized. Having a crappy past must be like a prerequisite for joining the Straw Hats or something. That or suffer significantly in the present. Or both. That's actually pretty morbid... Makes me wonder what goes through Oda's head sometimes... :l
 
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