Discussion Coby official thread

[THM Nindo]

So, this is the official thread to talk about Coby.

What do you think about this character?
What do you think will be his role?
Will he be strong in the end, or will he remain a loser?

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His Role

In my case, I'd compare Coby's role to Garp, its mentor.

Garp was, in many way, on par with Gold Roger, and he was always trying to bring him to jail, but was ultimately forced to let him go.
Garp was Gold Roger's nemesis, and also, I think, one of his closest friend.

I think Coby will play the same role for Luffy.
I think that Coby will be one of his best friend (like all of his nakama), but will also try to capture him (only because he's in the marine).

So, if we want Coby to be credible when he tries to capture Luffy, I think that he will need to be very strong.
I'm actually thinking that Coby will eventually get to the admiral position.

His power

I'm not sure if he will or not get a DF.
If he does, it will most likely be something really strong, like a Logia-type...
He might actually get the fire DF since its availabe now since Ace's death!

In the very least, I think he will be very very skill with the Haki.
More than the regular marines (we know that every VA is able to use Haki to some extent) and that he will become a force to reckon with because of it.

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I'm really really curious as to what Oda has in mind for him, but I'm sure that it will be really epic in the end.

Maybe, once Luffy has discove the truth behind the World Goverment, he will manage to convince Coby (maybe an admiral at that time) to work with him to fight with him against them.

In any case, it will be epic!
We can count on Oda for that!

 

[kkck]

Well, he has shown a natural aptitude for haki as of now (he awoke it for no good reason during the war) so I think that there is no doubt he will be extremely skilled with it. He is training to be a fighter like garp so with time he most likely will grow to not need one. Getting one won't hurt though. There is no way he will remain a loser though. He is actually dreaming big and has had a no less than extraordinary growth in the 6/12 months he was in the marines before the timeskip.

It'd be interesting if coby actually asked to be moved to G5 too. He'd be relatively close to smoker which can't be bad for the plot given both of their interest in luffy. It would also be a great way for him to increase his strength (helmepo too).

I always got the impression that smoker was to play a bit more of the garp role than coby though. Garp and Roger developed a sort of pseudo friendship through their fights, they came to respect each other. On the other hand, coby and luffy are friends because luffy saved coby. Luffy is likely to develop a pseudo friendship with smoker rather than coby.

 

[zerocooldx]

I think people get on Colby for his performance, or lack there of, at the war against WB and getting one shotted by Luffy. But its important to keep in mind that Colby really didn't want to be there let alone fight and kill people. He had no real claim or stake in that war aside from the fact that he was a Marine. Which is a complete 180 from Luffy whose entire being was investing in the war. Saving Ace was more important to Luffy then his own life and dreams. So i would like to see Colby fight for something he believed in and was fully vested in.

 

[kkck]

Of course coby would get one shotted by luffy but I don't think that in itself should be enough for people to get on coby like that. Coby had been training for mere months when luffy had spent his entire life training with ace and surviving garp's less than controversial methods to make luffy stronger. Coby most likely has gone through garp's less than controversial training methods however he would still lack the time luffy has been fighting and the sheer experience. 2 years have passed now, coby is bound to have had some decent haki training (specially observation, something which an airhead like luffy is bound to not be brilliant at) and acquired experience while fighting in the GL. Plot wise, what would make the most sense is that coby has actually been training and fulfilling marine duties in the new world considering that is exactly where luffy is going so odds are he has grown more than considerably stronger there. In that sense, he might even have an edge on luffy. I don't think coby will be able to defeat luffy next time we see him however it is extremely likely the gap between them will be severely reduced.

 

[RezzieThaRapper]

You beat me in making this thread, I swear I logged in just to make this thread after seeing all the discussion on it in the chapter discussion... I guess great minds think alike... Okay, now let me get on topic:

The Actual Role of Coby​

Coby's role is eventually going to become similar to Garp's... Smoker will too, but Coby even more so as he is Garp's student/apprentice. Or Coby will become a new Sengoku, who knows... (Oda does )

Coby & Smoker are the future Sengoku & Garp -- Quote me on this --

Coby's Strength/Skills​

Don't count on seeing Coby one shotted from here on out everytime he fights Luffy, let's face it, Coby was at the war, he saw Luffy take on Giants, VAs, The Admirals, The Shichibukai, Talk Down To Whitebeard, He was asleep for a lot more, but you can count on him hearing Luffy taking on Sengoku and Garp...

With all of these tales and sights of fearlessness and strength from Luffy, and with Garp knowing Coby's goal and knowing he considers Luffy his friend. Do you really not expect him to train his abilities and max out past human imagination. This is Admiral strength our young friend his going for, and if Oda is really all about dreams in this manga, you can bet your ass Coby is gonna get this strong

You can bet Coby's been doing the most incredible missions, the most insane battles, the most epic things with this two year break.

What Skills I Predict for Coby​

Lucci level Rokushiki - Specializing in Tekkai and Soru

Always on Tekkai

Even faster Soru

Kami-E MASTERY - The only way I can see him standing out from the VA's

CoO MASTERY - In fact I predict he will be able to cloud others CoO capabilities

CoA Average - He has to be able to hit Luffy

CoC Subtle - It has been said many people who achieve fame in this world seem to have this ability and Coby should have it... disagree all you want

Ō Wazamono Grade Sword - A sword as powerful as a Zoro blade, of Course he won't be able to show anywhere near Zoro's level... but maybe enough to keep Luffy on his toes

Devil's Fruit - I am sorta picky on this... and if he get's any Devil Fruit I want it to be the Mera Mera No Mi or something that speaks of the color pink(just because)

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EDIT: The reason I want him to have always on Tekkai is because a body as strong as steel can compare to a body made of rubber.

And think about this:

A Body of Steel, As Light As Paper, Attacks Like a Lion, Flies Like a Falcon

What if the Marines defined Coby like this. VA level at least

EDIT 2: I believe Coby is currently a Rear Admiral at most and at the very least a Commodore

 

[kkck]

I don't particularly see coby having a sword, let along a famous one. He is not a swordsman nor he seems to be training to be one. That would be something that helmelpo would have. I could see him being accomplished at rokushiki, as a fighter it would be a perfect complement to his skills and IMO adding haki to the whole thing would be an epic combination. Rokushiki is kinda a natural enhancement of the body to new levels, adding a supernatural thing like haki would be the perfect combination (VA seem to already do something like this though). A DF would not be bad either, it would speed up his getting stronger process by quite a bit.

 

[kingasas33]

yeah i agree kkck....coby is a fighter and helmelpo is swordsman...i imagine coby is gonna lead garp 's ship because of garp's retirement...maybe have some awesome logia ability like wind user or water user....another thing is if he (coby) not become captain on garp's ship maybe traveled alone like aokiji.....

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

After some thoughts and reading first part of One Piece Green Databook by Mangastream I got some thoughts about Coby...
I do think that he will become rather good Marine after the time-skip. Even in terms of Rokushiki. Also he will develop Haki to some extent, but I'm sure that it he will have only CoO and CoA. I think that he will never have CoQ.
Even if he have good combination of Rokushiki and Haki I don't think he will be even at Kakku's level. I think that to become some real relevant player in future he needs some DF and if he gets one it should be some Zoan type, cause he is close-range fighter. It will make him fisically stronger and enhance his Rokushiki skills.
I just can't imagine what Zoan will be good for him.

 

[THM Nindo]

I don't know if it's a spoiler or not, so I will just put it in spoilers tags anyway, but we got some news about Coby in the "One Piece Green Databook" that was just translated today.

Spoiler

It seems that he's now a "Master Sergeant"!
http://mangastream.com/read/one_piece_green/68375012/19

And it's saying the Helmeppo is also aiming at mastering Haki powers...

I wonder if that's written by Oda, or if people are just making stuff up...

 

[Jorge D. Dragon]

It's not a spoiler. He was a Sergant Major when he met Luffy at Water 7.

 

[vagabond87]

After some thoughts and reading first part of One Piece Green Databook by Mangastream I got some thoughts about Coby...
I do think that he will become rather good Marine after the time-skip. Even in terms of Rokushiki. Also he will develop Haki to some extent, but I'm sure that it he will have only CoO and CoA. I think that he will never have CoQ.
Even if he have good combination of Rokushiki and Haki I don't think he will be even at Kakku's level. I think that to become some real relevant player in future he needs some DF and if he gets one it should be some Zoan type, cause he is close-range fighter. It will make him fisically stronger and enhance his Rokushiki skills.
I just can't imagine what Zoan will be good for him.

Zoan model Lion would be perfect for Coby.

"Beast" is being used as a symbol, and the context is not really talking about an actual animal. The beast represents a governmental system, the personality of a system, and that system's philosophy of life. The context is showing us that from the system's point of view, people have no value other than for its purpose, and its purpose is simply to maintain and to extend its existence and power through the use of terror, fear—things that any wild animal would naturally exercise. In the "beast's" eyes, we are fodder or chattel.

A study of the symbol of the lion brings out several characteristics the Bible emphasizes: It represents strength, predatory ferocity, majesty, and leadership. The lion is the symbol of a ruler, a king, and often a very fierce and powerful one. These are the general meanings of the symbol based on a lion's traits. They help us to comprehend what God wants us to focus on in the context. Thus, a lion can represent both Satan and Jesus because they both have a lion's characteristics.


John W. Ritenbaugh

http://www.bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Topical.show/RTD/cgg/ID/478/Lion-Symbol-of.htm

 

[chess4]

i think he will have a hold on his color of obsevation and he will have moved up in rank a bit.

 

[tret16]

i don't think that he's gunna even want a DV. i mean look at his main influence in his trainging. He's being trained by Garp, someone without a DV and is famous no less and also Garp assistant doesn't seem to have a DV either. And not to mention, it just doesn't seem to be in his personality to have a DV ability.

 

[JC123]

Something I thought about Coby. Think of Coby as Usopp, only on the Marine side. He's started out as one of the weakest of the Marines. He was a coward that has trained extensively to become a Sgt Major in the time that Luffy has sailed the Grand Line. He's not quite there in terms of power, which is to be expected of a regular person.

Luffy started out stronger and has been through a lot more than Coby. Coby is meant to be a parallel story to Luffy's. He will grow from his loss. We're certain. But will he be on par with Luffy eventually? That's anyone's guess.

 

[kkck]

Well, luffy and Coby have in common the fact that both of them can only get so strong... Both of them will reach their potential at some point and from that point on they will stop growing. Luffy is closing in on his potential faster than coby for the most part however that only means coby has more room for improvement than luffy does. Coby has undeniable talent, in less than a year he gained superhuman capacities, learned at least one rokushiki technique AND most importantly awakened haki. I think coby will reach a point where he will be a match for luffy.

 

[scav]

Coby will be like Garp ?
Hum Coby will be great for sure. But i don't see Coby as garp. i see him more like Sengoku. Garp is VA cuz he isn't interested by being promoted, but Coby want to be Admiral. U can see here they aren't the same kind of guys. Smoker is more like garp, he don't give a damn about being promoted or being an admiral,when he think justice is wrong he dont give a damn about order. And the only one who chase SH since loguetown its smoker.

Coby and luffy
Coby is chasing after his dream and after the shadow of luffy.
we can see some parallelism between luffy and coby.both have a dream, one is in the marine and the other is a pirate, and if you notice it, both started to lean Haki at the same time, and both with a master. Luffy with rayleigh and coby with garp and both have natural talents.But luffy lead on coby and coby is trying to catch him, so i think during all the story Coby will chase him and only at the end Coby will finally catch the level of luffy.

Coby and the CoC
For the CoC, there is a parallelism between Coby and luffy like i said before. So if luffy have the CoC, coby will have it too(or already have it).

 

[3000PoemsWritten]

Coby is like the best... I can relate to him... (I feel very manly wearing a pink wig, jumping up and down on my bed, screaming randomly, I WANNA GET STRONGER!!!)

Anyway... I think Coby is about to come back like this

SUPER ROBOT MONKEY TEAM HYPER FORCE GO! and the world should lose like half of a chunk when he arrives

 

[kkck]

I don't think coby will have the color of the conqueror. It does not fit him IMO.

 

[chess4]

I don't think coby will have the color of the conqueror. It does not fit him IMO.

i think coby will have great control over color of observation and will develop COA later, but no kings haki. i think he will be the greatest roukisishki(spelling?) user ever in the marines but thats a long way off.

must discuss helmelppo, since he is pretty much hitched to coby's train. i think he will be the strongest marine swordsman and will be top 5 in the world in the end.

 

[scav]

lol u guy think a marine can't have CoC? For each generation i think we will have at least one marine with the CoC.And if its not Coby who else?
dat was Coby at the begining

who could guess that he will become like that only after few months of training?

and u guys still don't want to admit Coby is special?during the first part, even luffy didn't grow up as fast as Coby did. I can't wait to see how is Coby after 2 years.Some people here gonna be surprised