Games Mafia Game Thread - Game 11

[BBB Banana]

Cuse downs was innocent and you were so trying to incriminate him

 

[Evil3ye]

Banana is pointing fingers again?

 

[BBB Banana]

Yeah since when does pointing fingers is suspicious? Pointing fingers, seeing people's reactions, pushing them to their limits to discover if they are mafia this is the game's objective :\

Way to go with quality arguments... mafia *claps*

 

[Evil3ye]

Quality arguments? And you had some until now?

 

[Organizized]

Read through the whole thread again, took some notes... Still don't have any hard evidence for anyone being mafia, but I've got my eyes on a couple of people at least. Levels of suspicion vary, since they're mostly based on gut feeling.

I might vote before going to sleep if more discussion arises (which it seems to be) before then and I'll give reasons for my vote as well.

 

[BBB Banana]

Quality arguments? And you had some until now?

I dindn't said I had any either :\

 

[Farfalla]

Cuse downs was innocent and you were so trying to incriminate him

Well, only Blai can be sure about everyone's roles o.o So yeah, I also fail o/

 

[Evil3ye]

This phase is kind of dull. If everyone is holding back their thoughts we are going to get nowhere.

I'm kind of stuck here and would like to read some other theories. What is the reason for your waiting Organizized?

 

[Organizized]

Meh, actually I have to get up early tomorrow and I need my beauty sleep. I'll save my vote until tomorrow.

Before sleeping, though, I'll say this... the ones I took notes on when reading through the thread again are mainly (in order of suspicion): Evil3ye, good_boy and kkck. Here's why:

Evil3ye: Told Blai about his host mistake very quickly, which gave me a flashback to when I was dealing with hostfails, trying to contact the hosts as quickly as possible etc. Weak argument, I know, but like I said most of what I have is based on gut feeling, so...

Hard to decide whether he's a very thorough Townie or a Mafia dude trying to look like a good Townie... but leaning towards the latter because he admitted that he sorta believed good_boy defending himself, but left his vote on him since he was the most suspicious. Now, at the time I found this rational since it was Day 1 and there weren't a lot to go on or to be suspicious about. But when he stood by his vote for GB in Day 2 instead of waiting to see if something new would arise, that was a bit odd since he otherwise seems to be playing the game of a sensible Townie. Also (most recently), quick to point fingers when others (BBB) are pointing fingers, but tries to make it look like the other is the finger-pointer. High-mid suspicion.

good_boy: Random voting Evil in Day 1, going on and on for a bit in a DD-esque fashion, only to suddenly push a bit too hard trying to convince that it was all to "see how E would react". Still, I'm not getting a major Mafia vibe out of him and all this mostly applies if Evil is not mafia. Mid suspicion.

kkck: I really don't know about this one, mostly just a hunch.. Seems like he's posting "just to post", yet not contributing much to the discussion other than "I'm confused, wth is going on" etc. Again, getting flashbacks to last game when I was Mafia and doing the very same thing (because I really was absent, which I'm sure kkck is as well). So basically, getting a liiittle feeling he might not want to be suspected due to absence, yet neutral in posting not to seem aggressive. Low-mid suspicion.

And a couple with Low suspicion as well, but those aren't worth mentioning.

Sorry about the overly long post, but I guess I'm compensating for not going to be able to post in the next few hours or more. I'll check back in tomorrow and read whatever new discussion there is, and then I'll vote.

(note that this post is just me brainstorming. I'm not flat-out accusing anyone yet, and more than willing to discuss and listen to what y'all have to say)

 

[Evil3ye]

Well Org, thank you for your post, it came just in time, like when I were asking for some more input.
To your accusations to me;

First of all Blai did ask me stuff right before ending the phase, thus I've been there even before he posted the stuff and could check the post pretty early and tell him if it is correct that both roles are revealed.

Why I am sticking to my gb vote for is simply because I have no other suspects yet, other than Banana acting a bit suspicious, for pointing fingers. I admit the vote for goodboy is a bit random now after I said it could be just to get this going. However I simply have no other tracks I can follow for now, only going by his suspicious behaviour on Day 1.

Also I noticed goodboy's activity in Day 2 was at a very low, unlike the first day, when he was spaming quiet a lot and also been accusing people. Among others me, but also dark lord and I think Zeltrax. He was very calm in this phase. Which could be due to some agreements at night

That's all I am going for by now.

 

[Zeltrax]

Vote kill kkck.Maybe its just me, but I thought through my decision and
right now, he is the most suspicious in my eyes.

 

[Evil3ye]

It's hard to tell if kkck is suspicious or not. Personally I put him on the same level as Channy and maybe Zeltrax. They do post, but very little and have rather very neutral posts, except when they place their votes.

 

[Zeltrax]

Like I said, it may be just me and theres also a reason why I chose him.

Wow, we are getting butchered without the mafia even doing anything. We might as well hand the mafia a gun and aim it ourselves to our heads lol.

That said, I have no reason to suspect anyone lol. Kdown was perhaps the more suspicious one of the lot here and he was damn innocent. Wish cblitz would have recruited me into the masons rather than killing himself on some wrong guess lol....

Was kdowns the most suspicious? Wasnt that Bbb or gb, either this guy isnt following the thread or hes doing it on purpose.
Exactly because his posts are neuteal, too neutral that I suspect him.
Funny thing is the mason part, hes hinting himself as townie way too much while not making it obvious.
Again, this is my own point of view, I wish I could elaborate more but im in a phone now.
Channy doesnt gjmme the vibes this guy is giving

 

[Farfalla]

I'm gonna re-read the thread to check in who Blitz could be trusting and see if I can bring some of Blitz' posts here that would support that o/ Brb.

 

[BBB Banana]

I'm going to sleep my main suspect is evil so...

Vote Kill Evil3ye.

 

[Xadyu]

Vote Kill Evil3ye.

I really, really believe you are mafia and I'm locking my vote to prove it.
I don't have a solid reason of believing so, but my gut tells me so and listening to that has proven to be a positive thing in my life.

 

[Evil3ye]

Wow, guys wow. I find it weird that people are going to kill me because of some feelings, but then again I am not doing anything different myself.

Oranizized and Zeltrax post sort of convinced him to suspect kkck as well. But goodboy, as well as Banana I cannot place into the 'trustful person' category either.

Won't chance my vote for now though, got to see what else is going to happen this day. Catch you in like 12 hours. gn o/

 

[blai]

Spoiler

Vote kill kkck.

Vote Kill Evil3ye.

Vote Kill Evil3ye.

5 of 10 votes.

VOTE KILL Evil3ye 2x (Xadyu, BBB Banana)
VOTE KILL BBB Banana 1x (Bakahaze)
VOTE KILL good_boy 1x (Evil3ye)
VOTE KILL kkck 1x (Zeltrax)

 

[Farfalla]

Ok, I re-read Blitz post, and I think I have some interesting things to share.
Blitz started picking on GB, like this:

it's your fault if anyone does bandwagon you gb

and

we should probably just kill DD or gb. Both of them are trolls and always screw crap up, so we'd be better off if one of them just bit the dust.

Then, people voted for Evil, and Evil defended himself, and pointed some other path we should follow, and Blitz agreed:

Awesome. People are again bandwagoning me for nothing. Yeah, just get rid of all the talkative players first and then have lone, dead last rounds, as usual.

haha maybe we should target people who haven't been talking much

Evil and DD started debating who was more suspicious, they both were suspecting each other, and Blitz kept taking Evil's side, defending him, suspecting GB, just like Evil (they were either suspecting GB or DD).

The only suspicious people are the ones who cry suspicious at every minute thing and then go full retard whenever people try to use logic on them. So far gb has been doing that this round, and DD always does that
so yeah I think we should burn DD at the stake

literally your entire spiel on "UNDER PRESSSSSSSURE" and "OH HAI GUISE DL AND BBB ARE DEFENDING E3, THEY'RE ALL SUSPICIOUS", dammit show a little restraint

Then, Evil started to say that he maybe should change his vote to DD. That he was probably the most suspicious one, but he would stick to GB for a while. Right after that, Blitz voted:

yeah we'll I'm gonna be out for a bit so
votekill DD
may crows feast on your corpse

I get two things out of that: either Evil is mafia, Blitz trusted him, and then tried to recruit him and got killed.
Or Evil is also a mason and Blitz, as head of the masons, was trying to help him.
Then something made me wonder. Blai made a mistake. He posted Ust's role. But how did Evil know it was a mistake and warn Blai? We didn't know the mafia has a janitor... And even if we knew (I don't recall Blai saying that, but...) how did he know that the mafia boss picked the janitor to perform the killing?
And I'd like Evil to answer me that before I cast my vote. Maybe I got the wrong chronological order of those events around Blai's mistake, and if that's the case, I'll be voting for GB, 'cause that's what the masons were thinking, that he is probably mafia.

 

[Evil3ye]

Oh crap, now Farfalla is suspecting me too ;_;
But hey, I can clear you up with ease.

Firstly, no one else of you seemed to have paid attention to this....

Spoiler

Renaming of Roles:

House of Borgia (Mafia)
Lucretzia Borgia (Assassin)
Rodrigo Borgia (Mafia Boss)
Juan Borgia the Elder (Mafia Janitor)


Civilians (Townies)
Courtesan (Prostitute)
Assassin Order (Masons)
Cardinal (Bulletproof Townie)

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Secondly, I already told this before. Because I know how awkward it is to point out host mistakes I didn't want to point fingers at him in game but gave him the chance to make a good first game, so I didn't say shit publicly.

First of all Blai did ask me stuff right before ending the phase, thus I've been there even before he posted the stuff and could check the post pretty early and tell him if it is correct that both roles are revealed.

And thirdly, at the end of Game 10 I agreed on a change of rules, saying that as long as the Janitor is alive all players' roles will be hidden, no matter who is performing the killing itself. This was because of Organizized's struggeling in his second game as Boss.

Hope this is enough to convince you that I am innocent.

Also, I cannot tell you yet my role, because I will most likely lose all of my advantages if I do and will not be able to help the Civilians to win at all. But I will have to, if the people keep suspecting me. This maybe if that wasn't proof enough that I am innocent.

For now I am not going to change my vote and see where this this will head to.