Discussion Could any actual persons complete the Hunter Exam

[mrsticky005]

First Exam:

Follow Satotz.

Distance is over 80 kilometers or 50 miles. However this is before the staircase
and the swamps. In total it's probably well over two marathons in distance

Second Exam:

Hunt the Stamp Boar and cook it

Fish for freshwater fish and make sushi or jump off cliff, grab the spider eagle's nest (which is like a really thick spider's web strand or rope) grab a spider eagle egg. Climb back up and boil it.

Third Exam:

Trick tower: The Path of Majority Rules

Fourth Exam:

Hunt badges from each other

Fifth Exam:

Fight each other

 

[kkck]

If by an actual person you mean a real life human being, then no. I don't know of anyone who can run 80km without stopping in one go. Then there is the run through the swamp immediately after the 80k race which involved surviving dangerous animals. Capturing a pig several times the size of a human would be impossible with your bare hands, let alone carry it back to the impossibly hungry instructor. Jumping of a cliff, holding to a spider web without breaking your arms and climbing back up without breaking the egg is plain impossible. The tower thing would be possible assuming the people you have to fight are not superhumanly strong. The last test is obviously viable.

 

[mrsticky005]

If by an actual person you mean a real life human being, then no. I don't know of anyone who can run 80km without stopping in one go. Then there is the run through the swamp immediately after the 80k race which involved surviving dangerous animals. Capturing a pig several times the size of a human would be impossible with your bare hands, let alone carry it back to the impossibly hungry instructor. Jumping of a cliff, holding to a spider web without breaking your arms and climbing back up without breaking the egg is plain impossible. The tower thing would be possible assuming the people you have to fight are not superhumanly strong. The last test is obviously viable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Karnazes

I think that guy or someone like him could complete the first exam as far as running goes.
Would he be smart enough to avoid the dangerous animals and plants though? I dunno.

Also remember that you do not have to run. As Killua's skateboard wasn't against the rules. Though a skateboard would only really work until you got to the stairs.

There's no rule that says you need to kill the pig with your bare hands.

 

[Uriel]

With some help, maybe. IF I have a motorcycle perhaps, but those stairs are something not so easy to pull off.

Still, I think it's impossible for any IRL human to pass the test. Even the majority rules one, in which case we have to remember that they had 72 hours to go down and probably the tense of that fact would be alone enough to disqualify most people.

 

[kkck]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dean_Karnazes

I think that guy or someone like him could complete the first exam as far as running goes.
Would he be smart enough to avoid the dangerous animals and plants though? I dunno.

Also remember that you do not have to run. As Killua's skateboard wasn't against the rules. Though a skateboard would only really work until you got to the stairs.

There's no rule that says you need to kill the pig with your bare hands.

Thats actually very impressive. I guess the marathon part is possible then. There are still a few issues to consider though. First is that there are still the stairs. Is it possible to climb that many stairs after over 50 kms of running? Would the swamp be possible after that? Even if you have transportation things are complicated. Any form of transportation is useless once you get to the stairs. Heck, even a skateboard is a problem if you have to carry it through miles of stairs. Not to mention you can't use a skateboard in a swamp.

Killing the boar with your bare hands is perhaps not a necessity but isn't it the most likely scenario for a real life person? A small gun would perhaps do the job (it would still be dangerous as such a huge animal won't die fast from a simple bullet IMO) but one large enough to do this safely would set you back during the marathon. More so, you do have to carry the pig to take it to the examiner. How is that plausible?

 

[Phantron]

Killua used a skateboard. The running part is doable if you have say, a bike. As long as stay ahead you don't have to worry about the dangerous animals, since the leading Hunter is more than capable of defeating him.

Stage 2 you might have to work as a team, like one guy to lure the boar while another try to hit it. Since you can carry weapons, bringing some kind of firearm should do the trick. Getting the eggs would require you being a very good mountain climber.

Stage 3 is easy assuming your competitors are other human beings, at least compared to the superhuman feats the earlier stuff requires. You'll lose 2 guys on the final selection most likely but that's life.

Stage 4 is again easy if competitors are also other human beings.

Final stage is actually really easy against human beings and only one guy will lose.

I think the earlier stages are actually the hardest because you're not competing against other people. I'm assuming the guys in the exam are also human beings. If they're guys from HXH, you'd obviously have no chance winning stage 3 or 4, though you might get lucky on the final stage if you get someone like Killua who doesn't want to bother with you.

 

[Antaries]

I can past the test no problem

Exam 1 I'm going to bring a bicycle then discard it in the swamps. Then I will attach a homing device on Satotsu and follow it so I won't get lost

Exam 2 I have a dynamite or a tranquilizer gun to kill the boars. Then use rapelling on to get me some eggs

Exam 3 I'm going to snipe the vultures around the tower and jump down and inflate my parachute

Exam 4 I have a gun with silencer

Exam 5 I probably would have learned martial arts before entering the exam. And threaten to break off someone's penis to make them give up.

 

[kkck]

Ok, lets go part by part:

The first part of the marathon is 80 km long. It ends with the stairs.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v01/c007/5.html

This part is perfectly doable by running, even superior real life feats exist. Adding a bike would make things easier and make it doable for even moderate athletes considering it was flat terrain. Now, there is something which I do think is an issue for even the super athletes who are participating in this. A running speed for a normal fast person is supposedly somewhere between 15 and 20 km/h. The guys in HH are superhuman. Would a regular super athlete be able to maintain the speed requirements for the exam set by satots? Big question.

The next part is the stairs.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v01/c007/7.html
They were running before and at this stage the speed further increased. So by this point it is safe to assume anyone there is not doing traditional running. Can a super real life athlete increase his speed and maintain it at this stage? It is not nearly as long as the previos part however if you add the exhaustion from the previous test plus the increased speed of this one then you have something overwhelmingly complicated. By this stage of the test I would argue this is past conventional running.

The third part of the test:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v01/c007/19.html

You have the exhaustion of the first marathon and the extreme exercise from a few kilometers of stairs. Now you have to change to a swamp which is basically an entirely different terrain. You have the running element plus the fact that you can get eating by animals from which you cannot possibly defend. This would arguably add a significant amount of stress. Not only that but since it is a swamp you are constantly changing what you are running on. You could have grass, water..... Water would add a significant amount of resistance, running on it would be an entirely different thing. Honestly, I don't think a normal real life human would make this. I would put the limit at the stairs however if that is done you have to maintain a extremely fast pace in a extremely harsh terrain filled with murderous beasts.

Anyways, this part is where it would invariably end for anyone regardless of the circumstances:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v02/c010/15.html
You have to go to the woods and find a pork.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v02/c010/17.html
Those things gotta weight two tons each. Not to mention they are dangerous as hell, they kill people. So not only you have to hunt an impossibly large animal but it also seems to travel in herds and are perfectly capable of killing. There is also an element of stamina here. You have to run around a forest until you find one of those and then you have to beat them somehow. Lets assume you had a gun which you carried with you all the way up to that stage of the test and you kill one of those (as you won't have the super strength required to do it with a fishing rod), how in the hell would you carry it back? Plain impossible, this part is simply beyond human capacities.

The jumping of a cliff just like that and climbing back is impossible, that much is clear. Your arms would break from trying to get a hold of the spider web while falling.

The tower is doable under the assumption that you don't have to fight superhuman prisoners. You meet the guy who could rip flesh with his bare hands and not even a damn machine gon will save you.

The last test is perfectly doable.

 

[Uriel]

I can past the test no problem
Exam 1 I'm going to bring a bicycle then discard it in the swamps. Then I will attach a homing device on Satotsu and follow it so I won't get lost
Exam 2 I have a dynamite or a tranquilizer gun to kill the boars. Then use rapelling on to get me some eggs
Exam 3 I'm going to snipe the vultures around the tower and jump down and inflate my parachute
Exam 4 I have a gun with silencer
Exam 5 I probably would have learned martial arts before entering the exam. And threaten to break off someone's penis to make them give up.

You realize that you'll have on your bike too much weight considering the riffle, the dynamite, the homing device with the proper device, water, some generator to not make the battery die before time, rapelling, parachute, gun with bullets and that's not even COUNTING the things that you would probably need to survive in that island for those 72 hours to not sleep avoiding being hunted...
Right?

People give too little credit to bikers xD

 

[kkck]

I can past the test no problem

Exam 1 I'm going to bring a bicycle then discard it in the swamps. Then I will attach a homing device on Satotsu and follow it so I won't get lost

Exam 2 I have a dynamite or a tranquilizer gun to kill the boars. Then use rapelling on to get me some eggs

Exam 3 I'm going to snipe the vultures around the tower and jump down and inflate my parachute

Exam 4 I have a gun with silencer

Exam 5 I probably would have learned martial arts before entering the exam. And threaten to break off someone's penis to make them give up.

Question, do you plan on riding the bicycle up the stairs or are you going to carry it over your shoulder?

Wouldn't you get eaten if you fall too behind? Would you make it in time (it is not just a matter of making it, you have to make it in time)

You are assuming you know what the tests are going to be. Is this the case?

I don't think the dynamite, gun, bullets for the vultures and rappel equipment are possible. I can buy carrying all that stuff when you have the bicycle (although we are assuming you have the stamina to ride over 80 kms in a bike which is not necessarily the case) but how in the world would you carry those over the stairs and through the swamp (this is even more complicated if you expect to carry your bicycle over your shoulders). Do you even have enough bullets to kill all vultures? Do you have the aim for that?

 

[mrsticky005]

Ok, lets go part by part:

The first part of the marathon is 80 km long. It ends with the stairs.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v01/c007/5.html

This part is perfectly doable by running, even superior real life feats exist. Adding a bike would make things easier and make it doable for even moderate athletes considering it was flat terrain. Now, there is something which I do think is an issue for even the super athletes who are participating in this. A running speed for a normal fast person is supposedly somewhere between 15 and 20 km/h. The guys in HH are superhuman. Would a regular super athlete be able to maintain the speed requirements for the exam set by satots? Big question.

The next part is the stairs.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v01/c007/7.html
They were running before and at this stage the speed further increased. So by this point it is safe to assume anyone there is not doing traditional running. Can a super real life athlete increase his speed and maintain it at this stage? It is not nearly as long as the previos part however if you add the exhaustion from the previous test plus the increased speed of this one then you have something overwhelmingly complicated. By this stage of the test I would argue this is past conventional running.

The third part of the test:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v01/c007/19.html

You have the exhaustion of the first marathon and the extreme exercise from a few kilometers of stairs. Now you have to change to a swamp which is basically an entirely different terrain. You have the running element plus the fact that you can get eating by animals from which you cannot possibly defend. This would arguably add a significant amount of stress. Not only that but since it is a swamp you are constantly changing what you are running on. You could have grass, water..... Water would add a significant amount of resistance, running on it would be an entirely different thing. Honestly, I don't think a normal real life human would make this. I would put the limit at the stairs however if that is done you have to maintain a extremely fast pace in a extremely harsh terrain filled with murderous beasts.

Anyways, this part is where it would invariably end for anyone regardless of the circumstances:
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v02/c010/15.html
You have to go to the woods and find a pork.
http://www.mangafox.com/manga/hunter_x_hunter/v02/c010/17.html
Those things gotta weight two tons each. Not to mention they are dangerous as hell, they kill people. So not only you have to hunt an impossibly large animal but it also seems to travel in herds and are perfectly capable of killing. There is also an element of stamina here. You have to run around a forest until you find one of those and then you have to beat them somehow. Lets assume you had a gun which you carried with you all the way up to that stage of the test and you kill one of those (as you won't have the super strength required to do it with a fishing rod), how in the hell would you carry it back? Plain impossible, this part is simply beyond human capacities.

The jumping of a cliff just like that and climbing back is impossible, that much is clear. Your arms would break from trying to get a hold of the spider web while falling.

The tower is doable under the assumption that you don't have to fight superhuman prisoners. You meet the guy who could rip flesh with his bare hands and not even a damn machine gon will save you.

The last test is perfectly doable.

For the sake of argument let's say Satotz is running at Olympic speeds but not superhuman speeds and he can maintain that speed for the whole exam.

 

[Phantron]

People are shown to bring whatever equipment they need so I think bringing a gun is okay, which would get you past the boars though not without risk.

For the first part you can just bring a bike on flat terrain and then ditch the bike while going uphills, or maybe bring a scooter or something that's light to carry. The swamp part is okay as long as you keep up with the leader since he can kill anything that can potentially kill you. If you can't keep up with him, then you're probably dead.

The egg part is probably impossible but you might be able to pass the sushi part since everyone here should know what sushi looks like, though satisfying Menchi is practically impossible for anybody.

The 5 on 5 isn't actually bad because you can just forfeit the last fight if you didn't get 3 win by then. The second and third fights are definitely winnable. The first (the guy is comparable to a well trained special forces) and the fourth (have to outsmart a con man) are tough but still doable. If you know the exact fights ahead of time your chance of winning is greatly increased (basically Gon's party had the exact wrong guys for 1st and 4th fight). The 2nd and the 3rd fight should be winnable even without prior info if you somehow survived until the 3rd round.

 

[Antaries]

Question, do you plan on riding the bicycle up the stairs or are you going to carry it over your shoulder?

Wouldn't you get eaten if you fall too behind? Would you make it in time (it is not just a matter of making it, you have to make it in time)

You are assuming you know what the tests are going to be. Is this the case?

Hmmm.. I forgot the stairs. I would probably ditch the bike at the stairs. I would have been pumped with steroids as well since I know if I get that licence, I can live in luxury all my life. Hopefully the steroids would be enough to get close to Satotsu in the swamps.

The boar they are easy to tranquilize. The problem is HOW THE HELL CAN I CARRY THAT? Not to mention the herd that will ravage me.

I guess that's where the human limitations end. But for some miracle I'm allowed to chop it with a sword and the pig I killed was nearby the warehouse, then the jumping off the trick tower is easy. I doubt the vultures would be able to claw me going down like a speeding bullet and inflating at a safe distance.

Just think of me like the Jason Bourne type. Jason Bourne would have probably passed the exam but I am no Jason Bourne so I would call it quits after the 1st phase

 

[Tombadgerlock]

He probably wouldn't.

Running eighty kilometer, then up the stair, is flat out impossible, at that rhythm.

The stairs are ridiculously hard.

Swamps would kill anyone, too, because, guess what: Satotzu won't help you. He'll just run.

As for boar? you might try tranquilizer, but getting in the forest alone WILL kill you regardless.

 

[Uriel]

Well, if those monster reacts any similar to the beasts IRL...Then doing the shit trick may do the trick since they wont see you as threat.

 

[Phantron]

He probably wouldn't.

Running eighty kilometer, then up the stair, is flat out impossible, at that rhythm.

The stairs are ridiculously hard.

Swamps would kill anyone, too, because, guess what: Satotzu won't help you. He'll just run.

As for boar? you might try tranquilizer, but getting in the forest alone WILL kill you regardless.

It's implied those guys who managed to stick with Satotzu the whole time also avoided the animals. Whether this is because they're too fast for the animals or Satotzu knows the way around them is irrelevent. As long as you can stay in front of the pack with Satotzu, you'll be safe. From the depiction it doesn't appear he's running at speed that's faster than humanely possible and it's only the endurance part that requires superhuman skills, but you can cheat on the first leg of the run before the stairs with tools.

If you're not as fast as Satotzu then you're already dead anyway, and even if not you won't be able to find your way out unless you had a friend with a GPS like Hisoka did. However if you lack the speed to keep up, you'd have been left behind at the stairs part anyway (can't cheat there) since the door closes at the top, so you'd never get to the swamp.

Leorio is supposed to be representative of what a peak human being might look like in the world of HXH (everone else is clearly superhuman). He probably wouldn't have passed the exam without some help, but you can also bring more tools to try to even the odds.

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For the boars, I think people are overestimating their weight. Leorio couldn't move the first gate at the Z mansion at all and that's 2 tons, but it was shown him having no problem carrying one of the boars back. I know it's not quite the same thing but if the boar is meant to be as heavy as the gate (2 ton) then nobody out of the main characters besides Killua could've carried it back at the time of the Hunter exam. It's probably pretty heavy but definitely moveable if you have some help, either via tools or work out a deal with other contestants.

 

[HelixEpsilon]

Possible only if you know beforehand what the exam will consist of and bring your gun and your bicycle, but since contestants don't know, it's not possible.

 

[mrsticky005]

Possible only if you know beforehand what the exam will consist of and bring your gun and your bicycle, but since contestants don't know, it's not possible.

That's not necessarily true. Nicolas was able to figure out the location of the exam
somehow so it's possible that through a network of information you could find out
what the exam might be. Also you could infer what the exam might be like from
previous exams.

 

[shionoro]

i say yes as long as you are able to find out what tests lie ahead of you and you are allowed to bring whatever you want.

technology, like nen, knows no boundaries.
a good technician could build a machine that can even take him up the stairs or at least travel up the stairs without him having to carry it.
let's have this machine carry a jetpack up the stais for him, while he has to be a good athlete to take the stairs (which is possible).

we already spoke about the possibilities of gps.

He jetpaks in the air and follows the gps signal.
The test with the pigs is possible to solve if you have a weapon or even poison (he could lure the pigs towards poisoned food).

the majority test is possible for anyone to solve, even if it might be hard.
Same goes for all following tests

 

[Phantron]

The Hunter's exam is recurring so assuming you survived the first one, it'd be pretty obvious what kind of tools you should bring to future exams.

First you'd want to bring firearms. If that is somehow illegal, bring tranquilizers and poisoned weapons.

You definitely want a GPS.

You'd also need some form of locomotion, like a bicycle or a scooter. Jet pack would definitely help too if the technology exists. If not, at least bring a parachute.