Theory Gear Fourth predictions and theories

[bopnoh10]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

I've been thinking about this for a while and how about hardening his body by becoming smaller? The rubber then becomes more dense..

 

[soulji]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

Anyways, I still think gears refer to specific and special uses of his devil fruit. I don't think using haki to light himself on fire counts as a gear at all. It is possible he can use haki to modify himself and use his fruit in a special way though.

I disagree. Cause all of his "named" moves are "specific and special uses of his devil fruit." The gears augment his "named" moves. And Sandersonia's fire armor would add fire and hardness to his "named" moves.

Also, I think the post-timeskip Gear 2nd is all haki cause he doesn't do the leg pumps and still gets steam.

I kind of want Luffy's Gear 4th to be just like Nightmare Luffy without the sword proficiency. I mean it is without a doubt the best combination of the first 2 (or second two??) gears. That plus haki would be pretty epic.

I agree Nightmare Luffy's density would make a good gear 4 but after Ace's death I'm leaning towards Sandersonia's fire armor.

It is the perfect way to carry the will of Ace into the new world.

 

[soulji]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

Spoiler: This week chapter

Luffy just used a Hiken Fire Fist, though he was still in Gear 2.

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Please remember to use spoiler tags when the chapter just got out.~ Uriel

 

[kkck]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

Gears so far have been specialized uses of his DF. Setting himself on fire through haki would hardly be such a thing so I don't think it would be counted as a gear.

Just saying lol.

 

[BlackHair]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

haha - Excellent prediction.

Honestly back then I would have dismissed ur theory immediately. 'Cause I thought this would be too obvious, but glad it turned to be right. Badass looking move. Certainly in my eyes more inspired by Akainu then Ace.

 

[kkck]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

^The technique is an obvious tribute to ace, it was by no means inspired by akainu. Heck, "fire fist" was ace's nickname and he even had such a technique. I do wonder what the mechanisms of the technique are though. Does he set his haki on fire? Or perhaps the hardened pores from the hardinging increase cause an increase in temperature due to friction when using it in conjunction with gear 2?

 

[soulji]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

Just saying lol.

I still think full body flame will count as a gear.

 

[kkck]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

^The manga stated that the attack was part of gear two lol. Its fact that the whole hiken thing is by no means another gear. Even the hardening is not another gear lol.

 

[soulji]

Re: Gear 4th will be "Hiken"

^The technique is an obvious tribute to ace, it was by no means inspired by akainu. Heck, "fire fist" was ace's nickname and he even had such a technique.

You're right its an obvious tribute, but the explosion at the end is different. I don't remember any of Ace's attacks exploding like that. It reminds me of Akainu.

^I do wonder what the mechanisms of the technique are though. Does he set his haki on fire? Or perhaps the hardened pores from the hardinging increase cause an increase in temperature due to friction when using it in conjunction with gear 2?

I think your first explanation is the simpler of the two. I think Gear 2nd allows him to punch fast enough to light his haki on fire like Marigold, instead of using matches. I think he then contains/shapes the fire around his hand with Busoshoku, then release it on impact. Explosion.

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^The manga stated that the attack was part of gear two lol. Its fact that the whole hiken thing is by no means another gear. Even the hardening is not another gear lol.

I know, hiken is an attack. I never thought that Hiken would be Gear 4th. I wrote the title like that cause it was catchy. I felt that lighting his whole body on fire like Marigold would be Gear 4th, and he would do moves like hiken from the stance of having his whole body on fire. I envisioned it augmenting all of his moves, Instead of more speed like Gear 2nd or more power like Gear 3rd, it would add fire attacks to moves like Axe or Bazooka or Gatling Gun.

 

[Fox666]

My thoughts:

• If Luffy has not used Gear Second until now, it will be burden for his body far worse than Gear Second. It will also fit with this arc theme involving Law.

• Gear Second and Third were heavily connected to Luffy's Devil Fruit ability. But vulcanization has already been used for other techniques. Dunno what else it could be.

• It shall be fire-based, since Luffy already used fire technique and is somewhat fitting to other gears. But it would not be simply as having his body covered in fire, but something on a different level. He could even melt his own body to create some substance that acts like lava.

• Gear Second was based on the Kaio-ken from Dragon Ball, so it could be a Super Saiyan-esque power-up.

• Since Luffy fighting style is already influenced by Hokuto no Ken, he may use rubber to apply tension to the opponents body and destroy them from inside.

• When Luffy used Gear Second against CP9, it made his own fighting style very similar to Rokushiki. So Luffy may be able to slice things like Doflamingo own ability. Not to mention it could be a way to counter Doflamingo Devil Fruit.

• Following the battle with Crocodile, Luffy used an element (water) to defeat him. This time Luffy could use another element to help him. I am thinking of wind since it would give him an slicing ability.

• Luffy also used his own blood to fight Crocodile. So he could launch fragments of his flesh as projectiles.

• Since rubber is malleable, Luffy may drastically change the shape of his body.

Edit: The latest chapter made a clear point about the limitations of Gear Second and Third:

Gear Second is not strong enough.

Spoiler

And Gear Third is not fast enough.

Spoiler

So Gear Fourth will be both strong and fast.

 

[jaymizzo]

The thing is, unlike Logia, melting his own body would be a terrible disadvantage to Luffy and would seriously harm him. He cannot regenerate those body parts like a Logia user can nor can he detach them. I doubt it would be something similar to lava.

The theory I liked the most is the spring theory which was posted in the chapter discussion. Would really work very well with Luffys DF and the side effects would also make a lot of sense (like G2 side effects).

 

[TitaniumOxide]

If I remember correctly, Luffy used both gear second and third to fight Moriah. So...speed and size. I'm thinking gear fourth might make him flat. Since he is made of rubber, if he can be blown up and be elastic, he should also be able to make himself flat. Being flat can help with gliding in the air as well as slicing your enemies.

 

[I Am Atomic]

When he used it against moriah it gave you some serious side effects and thanks to kuma we never got to find out. Now luffy might have learned to control it like gear second and named it gear 4. I hope my theory is wrong because that move sucks. It's not cool. It only worked because moriah was big. The move did not finish him off, the mast did.

 

[Lighty]

Maybe we have already seen a part of what gear 4 might look like. Im talking about the Gomu Gomu no Red Hawk.
As we know Red Hawk is a combination of Gear 2 and Haki but what if Gear 4 takes that concept and enhances it even more.
That means Luffys hole body would be covered in flames, giving him a super saiyin like aura which would be a logic continuation of kaioken (gear 2) and ape form (gear 3). It would also show his connection with ace and be a pretty badass matchup with Akainu.
AND most importantly it could be explained why Luffy didn't use that Gear against Hody in the water - just because its fire and wouldn't work there. Only a limited attack of that kind (red hawk) was possible there, thats why Luffy was limited in his options there.
Moreover we already saw that the red hawk has damaged Doffy a bit and gear 4 would probobly take this attack to a hole different level.
It could also be helpful to burn away the birdcage and Doflamingos strings.

 

[henhead]

Other than hardening himself without growth (growing larder than gear 3 might be dangerous in that shrinking cage), I can picture Luffy collecting a massive amount of haki (could be mixture of different haki, pure conquerors haki, etc.) by initially puffing up first and having that puffiness disappear into his limbs to make him very buff (and dark because of the haki). The drawbacks would be much more dire than gear 3 and there might be a short time limit, therefore Luffy will have to do or die it similar to when he used gear 3 to get rid of tough foes in the past. Luffy might receive drastic increase in speed and power along with the special traits of the conqueror's haki (we haven't seen the full potential of the conqueror's haki yet. Simply making opponents pass out might not be the only special trait of this haki).

 

[M3J]

Has to be related to power, and probably speed. As some chap said in this thread, Luffy's issue was not having power or speed to hit Cell, much like Trunks when he faced off against Cell and discovered goin past SSJ2 was useless. Luffy needs strength behind his punches as Gear 2 isn't doing it, and while Gear 3 is strong, it's too slow.

 

[RedBerserk]

Gear 2 was related to blood, Gear 3 to bones, my guess is that Gear 4 will be about muscles, but I don't really know where that could lead, maybe he will achieve a form similar to "nightmare Luffy".

 

[Szklak]

I have a feeling that G4 might enable Luffy to use attacks similar to Elizabello's King Punch, but on a smaller scale (for now).

How?

Probably, as many have already speculated, speeding up the blood flow, expanding his muscles (maybe bones as well) to some extent and vulcanising his body with haki. This alone would make him stronger while maintaining G2 speed. His G4 attacks would most likely have shorter range. The overall nature of G4 would be that of a shotgun.

The thing is, in my opinion, that would only put him on equal ground with Doffy (who probably still has some ace in his sleeve)… This is why he might need something to put the nail in Doffy’s coffin.

Something like a technique inspired by King Punch.

Why?

- Luffy saw the whole block B fight in the colloseum and was in awe after witnessing King Punch.
- Dagama mentioned that Elizabello is able to use this technique because of his “impeccable body” (G4 takes care of that).
- Dagama also said that it would work even against a Yonkou (and Luffy seems to be destined to fight 3 of them).
- It would make Doffy’s plan of luring Luffy into the colloseum work against him to even greater extent than it already had.
- This technique gives Luffy some serious potential for growth in the future.

 

[sir_rocky]

Maybe it will be something similar to what Gon did in HxH

Spoiler

Gon forcibly aged his body by sacrificing his nen and got power far beyond what he was capable of at that time.

Maybe Luffy will do something similar but not so drastic, he could speed up his blood even more than in gear second and somehow force his muscles and body to develop further for a short time or something so that he has a more mature appearance and increased strength and speed.

 

[Impossibility]

I can't imagine fire is going to factor into it. Sanji already exists; it'd be some pretty unnecessary overlap. Gear 2nd itselfups his stats, specifically his speed. Gear 3rd simply increased his attack through sheer size. The sticking point has been a fundamental change to his own body. I would think it would follow that Gear 3rd is likely to be the same. It's likely to come at the cost of significant stamina, and his own health to some extent, and will likely have some sort of stringent limit at this point. It's probably going to be somewhere along the line of altering his muscles to increase their limits.