Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2012] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[Asgaroth]

While I agree top five placement is usually a good sign, this time I'm a little skeptical. This is the third recent title placed in the top five, all by previously serialized mangaka, each with a previous serialization lasting five volumes or more. While obviously impossible to confirm, a pattern is a pattern. Bulge was consistently given top five placement every week, and yet has fallen to last place in only it's third ranking. There is no accounting for taste; in a magazine that specializes in the generic, assuming Bulge's low ranking is based on quality would be giving Jump readers more credit than they deserve.

isn't that the case for every mainstream medium, like movies, music and so on? but yes, you are right with it. it's not like they criticize the work, they just judge them with their bellies.

 

[Teeba]

You know what I've realized? Beelzebub always polls badly in the TOC when there's some kind of fake-romantic undertone to the storyline. I guess that means Beelzebub weekly readers want the manga to stick to its primary genres and themes rather than explore new ones. Or they are predominantly fujoshi readers. xD

 

[Estranho]

Since 1999, the following series ranked 2d or 3d (1st or 2d with traditional count) in their 8 first chapters of publication:

• Sand Land
• Eyeshield 21
• Busō Renkin
• Kanagawa Isonan Fūtengumi
• Sword Breaker
• Death Note

3 of them lasted less than 20 chapters...

Two really successful series, one short series by a famous mangaka (Sand Land), and two new series from successful authors (Rurouni Kenshin and Hareluya II BOY). Just Futengumi is an "outsider" here.
AC can be a new hit or just a hyped serie by a previously successful author.

Like said, nothing conclusive at all, but personally I'm hoping that it's the first option.

 

[k-dom]

I have made a plot of the current Jump series ranks for the last 52 issues. The TOC places are averaged on 10 issues, color pages are not taken into account.

One can clearly see the new top 3, the sinking of Bleach and Kurogane but the rising of Kuroko and Nisekoi

 

[Jaymie]

It's funny how you can see the exact issue when Bleach started to sink dramatically.

Nisekoi and HQ make me so happy. They've both been strong series from the day they began, and many deemed romances and sports to be a lost cause, so I'm glad they're doing so well.

Come back soon HxH. We love you, even if your rankings don't fully represent that fact.

 

[FrostyMouse]

It's funny how you can see the exact issue when Bleach started to sink dramatically.

Nisekoi and HQ make me so happy. They've both been strong series from the day they began, and many deemed romances and sports to be a lost cause, so I'm glad they're doing so well.

Come back soon HxH. We love you, even if your rankings don't fully represent that fact.

To be honest, I'd rather HxH doesn't come back as it just takes a spot away from a series with potential. I think HxH should be moved to SQ and Konomi should bring SPoT to Jump. This last time period in Jump was the longest period of successive chapters that Togashi had had in years.

Haikyuu hasn't really been about sports yet, however. I really like Haikyuu, but it's been more about the relationships and team building so far, not the actual playing. During the match against Aobajousai, it was more about the team and the interaction between Kageyama and Hinata, not really the playing, which appeared to be secondary. Once Karasuno becomes fully formed, we'll see what happens.

 

[SSJWill4]

Come back soon HxH. We love you, even if your rankings don't fully represent that fact.

Agreed. 18 issues of hiatus so far...here's hoping it'll be back by the time we get past the 30 issue mark.

 

[crimsonlink310]

Agreed. 18 issues of hiatus so far...here's hoping it'll be back by the time we get past the 30 issue mark.

I think Togashi will wait for his HXH movie to come out and then come back.

 

[perroloco]

What crimson said.. I mean I would be incredibly surprised if JUMP doesn't already have some chapters or maybe Togashi is making them right now but every movie based on a manga (at least JUMP) has have some kind of special manga chapter.. At the very least there should be a serialized HXH chapter at the time of the movies premiere.

 

[Lutzinho]

I really hope Bulge survives a bit longer. I have the feeling that we haven't seen the best from it up until now. But sadly it seems unlikely since it's already dead last with only it's fourth chapter.

 

[Mr. Arashi]

Bleach on the bottom again. Good thing it can't be cancelled.

Goblin Night looks interesting, Who's the author? It has a reminescence to Mizukami's Sengoku Youko, i think.

 

[wintercry]

Goblin Night looks interesting, Who's the author?

Norihisa Yagi Tomohiro. He's probably a rookie.

 

[lynxian]

Norihisa Tomohiro. He's probably a rookie.

The reading's actually Yagi Tomohiro. I'm not quite sure where the "Norihisa" reading came from... Evidently he had a oneshot called IRON CURTAIN in the last winter edition of NEXT!.

 

[Kaiten]

Agreed. 18 issues of hiatus so far...here's hoping it'll be back by the time we get past the 30 issue mark.

Lately Hunter x Hunter has resumed a year after serialization ended. If that holds, March 2013 is the earliest I expect it back. Togashi's last hiatus began in May 2010, ending in August 2011. Prior to that he went on hiatus at the end of December 2009, resuming serialization the first week of January 2010. There are no guarantee's this hiatus will be the same length, he has taken shorter hiatus in the past.

There is not even the tiniest chance that Hunter x Hunter ever leaves Weekly Jump. They would never lose one of their marquee titles for SQ. The thought is almost as implausible as allowing One Piece to move. Were Togashi to want to switch from irregular serialization too monthly, Hunter x Hunter would be serialized once a month in Weekly Jump.

 

[xi0]

Agreed, it's evidence enough based on what Weekly Young Jump has done with Gantz, one of, if not the highest-selling series in the magazine.

 

[Muddy]

Incidentally: Assassination Classroom is awesome (no surprise, after the masterpiece Neuro), so I hope it comes out real strong when ranked!

 

[Zeromcd]

September Jump Comic release schedule
BLEACH #56
REBORN! #40
SKET DANCE #26
Kuroko no Basket #19
Medaka Box #17
Kurogane #05
PSI Kusuo Saiki #01

October Jump Comic release schedule
Kochikame #182
NARUTO #62
Gintama #46 　
Nurarihyon no Mago #23
Toriko #21
Beelzebub #18
magico #08
Haikyuu!! #03
Pajama na Kanojo #03
Koisome Momiji #01

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[Kaiten]

Agreed, it's evidence enough based on what Weekly Young Jump has done with Gantz, one of, if not the highest-selling series in the magazine.

Since the hiatus ended, Vagabond returned to [Weekly] Morning on a monthly basis. REAL, Inoue's other manga, is serialized Inoue also serialized REAL on a bi-monthly basis, in Weekly Young Jump.

 

[xi0]

Since the hiatus ended, Vagabond returned to [Weekly] Morning on a monthly basis. REAL, Inoue's other manga, is serialized Inoue also serialized REAL on a bi-monthly basis, in Weekly Young Jump.

I was just talking about an example by Shueisha, but yeah there are definitely numerous example with many publishers of this being done. Miura's Berserk as well in Young Animal (Bi-Weekly). But there wouldn't be much of a point as I'm not aware of Hakusensha having a monthly Seinen serial, other than Young Animal Arashi. His pace isn't enough for it to be worthy of a monthly either, and Togashi is the same in that regard.

What it obviously boils down to is keeping the top-tier series in the magazine with the highest circulation numbers. Coupling that with an editorial department that isn't going to just give their series to another magazine unless there's special circumstances. D.Gray-man, Bastard!!, and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure all come to mind. It's wrong of fans to just assume Togashi moving to SQ would result in a chapter every month, that certainly isn't the case with DGM since it's move. So yeah, wishful thinking that doesn't make much sense.

 

[k-dom]

But what are the chance that it becames monthly instead of the current status ? Quite slim in my opinion.