Discussion Who will get Ace's Mera Mera no Mi (Fire) Devil Fruit?

[MBVC]

So rebecca is weak just because bb is behind her? And how come rebecca stays weak even after she has the power bb so dearly wants?

As i said earlier, read my previous post. Rebeccas strenght is probably in her defensive abilities. Hence as others have pointed out, she doesent have wounds all over her body like the other gladiators.

I'm not sure how to reply this question. The only chance for Rebecca to win against BB is using her beautiful body; the second question is easier to answer, because BB will come to the island and take the df after the SH is gone. Ace failed to defeated BB in the past, I'm sure Rebecca has 0% winning with her new power, this time I don't even have to use any word like estimate.

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How do you know Rebecca is weak? She didn't go all out against Luffy in their scuffle, so we don't know the true extent of her strength. I think we'll see just how strong she is in D Block.

Yes, Rebecca is as strong as Bellamy 2 yrs ago. Just because she can poke Sanji to dead doesn't mean she is the 3rd strongest after Luffy and Zorro (Jinbei is excluded at this moment). So do you think she is stronger than Zoro too?

 

[EddyBob15]

Yes, Rebecca is as strong as Bellamy 2 yrs ago. Just because she can poke Sanji to dead doesn't mean she is the 3rd strongest after Luffy and Zorro (Jinbei is excluded at this moment). So do you think she is stronger than Zoro too?

How can you make that assumption? True, she's not as strong as Luffy, but she's bound to be as strong as Robin and Franky.

 

[MBVC]

The problem about comparing with Robin is that if Rebecca isn't fast enough then she's dead. Thanks to her df, Robin is really dangerous sometimes especially for anyone who underestimates her assassin skills, not to mention after 2 yrs of hard training which helps her even more. Law, Kid and Zoro are all above Rebecca, sadly this assumption holds with extremely high probability.

Franky is another type of monster in different category, his laser beams are really hard to defend against not to mention he has been upgraded himself this past 2 yrs. I think Franky is equivalent to a ultra-modern pacifista in WG.

 

[EddyBob15]

I'm not saying that she is as strong as Luffy, but I do believe Rebecca can hold her own in a fight. If she gets knocked out of D block, I won't disagree with you anymore.

 

[M3J]

Uh, you don't consider the title of 'Undefeated Woman' hype?

The hype doesn't mean much, especially since we don't know the kind of enemies she faced. It seems her speed could have been enough to overwhelm her enemies, but she's not really that strong otherwise.

^ That, and she is the only one among the imprisoned gladiators that does not have a single visible wound on her. And they were suuuuuuper shocked when Rebecca lost in speed, and it was stated by Luffy that she didn't even try to kill him.

I didn't say anything about her getting the fruit, hence my "COBY FOR THE WIN!"

I didn't say you did.

Sanji really needs a powerup to stay in the monster trio,,,,
Fruit should go to him.

No he doesn't, he's very strong as well. We haven't seen Sanji fight all out at his full strength, or any Strawhats for that matter.

 

[Don Chinjao]

Ok i want to clear something when some of us we are saying that Rebecca is weak we dont mean she is useless. Iam 100% she can kick some normal glady fighters butt very easy but when it comes to strong opponents like for example at the skill/power of bo or sai, she simple cant win at all agaist ppl of that lvl.
I think Cavenidish is the strongest of the D block and has the best chances to win his block and after going back to the chapter where we seeing the gladiator fighters having some pretty crazy reactions about suleiman the A rank war criminal and Urlombus the savage adveture i assume these ppl are pretty strong too not as strong a Cavendish but they arent on hit k.o meatbags. Anyway there is a good chance we will see rebecca have some nice b1tch fight with the other 2 female compatetors.

Spoiler

http://eatmanga.com/Manga-Scan/One-Piece/One-Piece-704/page-7

 

[Lord Rayleigh]

Anyone thinking about one of the Heart Pirates eating the Mera Mera no mi ? If Luffy gets the devil fruit, there will not only be his crewmates but also Law's all around it, looking and discussing about it. I'm pretty sure that would be a good way to introduce new Law's nakamas and to strenghten the connexion between the two crews.

Plus, since the Straw Hats and the Hearts are in an alliance to fight on Kaido, this situation would prevent the SH from eating it and still make it useful for the Alliance. By the way, if a Straw Hat was to eat a devil fruit, I would prefer it to be an unknown one, so that we have a much more interesting discussion between the crewmates.

What would be the risk, the excitement and the surprise with an already known DF? I think there could be a deeper development to make a SH find and eat a DF, if it's ever going to happen. To quote Luffy "I don't want to go on a boring adventure like that!" in which we already know where is the fruit, what it is and how it can be used.

 

[MBVC]

I'm not saying that she is as strong as Luffy, but I do believe Rebecca can hold her own in a fight. If she gets knocked out of D block, I won't disagree with you anymore.

This depends on whether Cavendish is on or off the stage. If Rebecca wins the 3rd round then it's my turn to accept that she's truly a strong female warrior! Do we have a deal here?

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By the way, her opponent in the 3rd round is either Burgess or Bartho.

 

[EddyBob15]

This depends on whether Cavendish is on or off the stage. If Rebecca wins the 3rd round then it's my turn to accept that she's truly a strong female warrior! Do we have a deal here?

Deal. But how do we know she's not strong enough to beat Cavendish?

 

[danzouismadara]

Deal. But how do we know she's not strong enough to beat Cavendish?

because his bounty clearly shows he is no slouch plus he was able to clash with chinjao, when rebecca with the intent to kill got owned by luffy who was casually eating

 

[matzik1212]

because his bounty clearly shows he is no slouch plus he was able to clash with chinjao, when rebecca with the intent to kill got owned by luffy who was casually eating

Bounty again I don't think we should take the bounties in consideration in OP since we know it doesn't reflect an individual actual power . Also I don't think we should judge Rebecca's power taking that scene with Luffy into consideration since she obviously didn't have any killing intent . She attacked him without using her actual power

 

[joshua019]

The problem about comparing with Robin is that if Rebecca isn't fast enough then she's dead. Thanks to her df, Robin is really dangerous sometimes especially for anyone who underestimates her assassin skills, not to mention after 2 yrs of hard training which helps her even more. Law, Kid and Zoro are all above Rebecca, sadly this assumption holds with extremely high probability.

Franky is another type of monster in different category, his laser beams are really hard to defend against not to mention he has been upgraded himself this past 2 yrs. I think Franky is equivalent to a ultra-modern pacifista in WG.

You should stop thinking about 1 vs 1 in terms of strength comparison, when we said rebbeca is comparable to to robin in strength it does not mean they will go into a hypothetical arena and fight each other. The comparison, is based on the overall strength of the character with respect with the other.

 

[EddyBob15]

Also I don't think we should judge Rebecca's power taking that scene with Luffy into consideration since she obviously didn't have any killing intent. She attacked him without using her actual power

That's what I've been saying. Just because she couldn't beat Luffy doesn't mean she's not strong. And as some have pointed out, she's not critically injured like the other gladiator convicts. I think we'll see exactly why she's called the 'Undefeated Woman' in D Block.

 

[M3J]

It'll probably be related to her speed, then, not necessarily power. If she is indeed pretty fast, then giving her mera mera no mi could work well with her speed and defense, but it won't allow her to stand a chance against Doflamingo.

 

[MBVC]

Deal. But how do we know she's not strong enough to beat Cavendish?

I really don't know whether Cavendish is still having any kind interest in taking part of the tournament because his original goal might have been changed to hunting down Luffy. I make a range of options in this deal:

a) If Rebecca wins the 2nd round but looses with dignity in the 3rd round then she'll be as strong as Robin (from my personal opinion, Franky > Robin after the time-skip because most of the matter in his body is inorganic).

b) If Rebecca wins the 3rd round then her strength is equivalent to Sanji, this means she is only weaker than Luffy, Law and Zoro.

c) If Rebecca wins the 4th round, then she has a great great grand future to become the pirate empress of the world because her opponent in the 4th round is Luffy and there's no chance in hell she can overcome the future pirate king in terms of both speed and strength.

 

[danzouismadara]

kanjuuro or moncherie will eat it since they will be starving since they are pretty much slaves. I kanjuuro is more likely to eat it since he probably has no clue what df are.

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Bounty again I don't think we should take the bounties in consideration in OP since we know it doesn't reflect an individual actual power . Also I don't think we should judge Rebecca's power taking that scene with Luffy into consideration since she obviously didn't have any killing intent . She attacked him without using her actual power

well she clearly showed her speed which looked pathetic in comparison to luffy's

 

[EddyBob15]

well she clearly showed her speed which looked pathetic in comparison to luffy's

So you're saying that anyone who can't beat Luffy is weak. Are you implying that Arlong, Crocodile, Enel, and Lucci were all weak and pathetic?

 

[danzouismadara]

So you're saying that anyone who can't beat Luffy is weak. Are you implying that Arlong, Crocodile, Enel, and Lucci were all weak and pathetic?

I don't believe that I said that. I just said she is weak period. She even has a reputation for being weak. anyways you will see how weak she is next chapter.lol

 

[EddyBob15]

I don't believe that I said that. I just said she is weak period. She even has a reputation for being weak. anyways you will see how weak she is next chapter.lol

Funny, she seems to have a reputation of being a powerful fighter in my book. But we'll see who's right in the next chapter.

 

[M3J]

I don't remember her having any such reputation. She's known for being undefeated, which doesn't necessarily make her powerful. Her friends were also shocked Luffy outsped Rebecca, which could indicate Rebecca's victory came from her speed, not because of power. Not to mention, no one has shown her any respect from what I recall, at least not for an undefeated champion. It'd indicate she's not that big a force to reckon with.

You are free to provide proof that counters my point, but I doubt you'll find it. I read the chapters, and I don't recall seeing anything that makes her dangerous or acknowledged as a powerful fighter.