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Wait... so far 1st stringer, a lot of them say "lacking in power" at 4. But for Atobe, it's "level of power to be able to easily blast away his opponent's racket"? Same deal with speed. What...? Is the coach analyzing from "3rd year MS" point of view?
 

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Wait... so far 1st stringer, a lot of them say "lacking in power" at 4. But for Atobe, it's "level of power to be able to easily blast away his opponent's racket"? Same deal with speed. What...? Is the coach analyzing from "3rd year MS" point of view?
Probably. In general, the categories seem to be G10, 11-20 + 2nd String HSers, MSers.
 

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I think for a lot of the high schoolers, its from the point of view that they've had these extra years of training over the middles choolers. Many of them won't be around much longer.

For the middle schoolers, many are already on a 1sts tring level but they also have a lot of timean d room to keep improving so that by the time they reach thes ame age of the high schoolers, they'll be far superior.

basically, kurobes also taking into account the potential they have to grow
 

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Since they're at a lower level and younger, their power and speed is more impressive. So when the coaches say that a 5 in speed from a G10 guy is 'average' or 'subpar', it's still better than what most of the lower players have, but they're being compared against the best of the best.

Similar to how a high school player with 'great speed' would still not compare to a professional player whose speed was judged as being subpar.

Thanks a lot Sai.
Does this confirm our theories on Saiki Kanpatsu no Kiwami being deleted from SPoT?
It has never appeared and Ryoma clearly used it against Yukimura Seiichi at the Nationals Finals.
And although its listed TnK on his profile, there is no SKnK.
Well, it also doesn't list Hyakuren, and Ryoma used that against Yukimura, too.
 

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I think for a lot of the high schoolers, its from the point of view that they've had these extra years of training over the middles choolers. Many of them won't be around much longer.

For the middle schoolers, many are already on a 1sts tring level but they also have a lot of timean d room to keep improving so that by the time they reach thes ame age of the high schoolers, they'll be far superior.

basically, kurobes also taking into account the potential they have to grow
That makes a lot of sense, the way characters in the PoT world have improved, it's scary to think where all the middle schoolers will be when they are as old as Oni and Byoudin, especially the first years, like Ryoma and Kintaru, and even liladent, they have 5 more years of improvement.

Even the third year middle schoolers, Tezuka, Atobe, Yukimura, Sanada, Shiraishi, Tachibana, Gin, Oishi, Akutsu, these guys are all already first string levels (oishi isn't as good as the others in base stats, but his doubles play is top of the line)

In three years, many of these msers could be as strong or stronger than Oni, Byoudin, and Ryoga, many of them have the potential
 

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Well, all of them also got accept into the camp early, too. Mouri will probably be a big player in 2 years time. But no one beside the 50-ish MS was accept into the camp before their HS year, so we should also take those into consideration.

Echizen and Kintarou are clearly the one with the biggest potential with their high base stats even if they are only 1st year right now. In the long run, like, say, 10 years or something, they'll probably be the two strongest players, if they continue to play tennis.

Of course, Tezuka is confirm to win Grand Slam, so, umm.
 

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Well, all of them also got accept into the camp early, too. Mouri will probably be a big player in 2 years time. But no one beside the 50-ish MS was accept into the camp before their HS year, so we should also take those into consideration.

Echizen and Kintarou are clearly the one with the biggest potential with their high base stats even if they are only 1st year right now. In the long run, like, say, 10 years or something, they'll probably be the two strongest players, if they continue to play tennis.

Of course, Tezuka is confirm to win Grand Slam, so, umm.
Echizen and Kintarou have the most potential for sure, but players like Sanada, Yukimura, Tezuka, Atobe, and probably Akutsu too all have the skills to keep up with them, but echizen and kintarou will probably always be the best for their age, and definitely U-17's top two in 5 years
 

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Well, they do, but because they are 2 years older. But the thing is that Echizen and Kintarou are the one that's keeping up with those monsters right now, even though those monsters are 2 years older than them. Improvement due to age is not going to last forever. Once the improvement to age for those monster players stop, chances are Echizen and Kintarou will continue to improve for 2 more years. All I'm saying that once all is said and done, Echizen and Kintarou, as of now from what we saw, are the one that have the most possibility of becoming a strongest. Kintarou can already keep up his serve game against PoP Oni that's 5 years older than him when he's only a 1st year MS. Imagine where he'll be at 3rd year HS, and that's the real scary part.
 

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Well, they do, but because they are 2 years older. But the thing is that Echizen and Kintarou are the one that's keeping up with those monsters right now, even though those monsters are 2 years older than them. Improvement due to age is not going to last forever. Once the improvement to age for those monster players stop, chances are Echizen and Kintarou will continue to improve for 2 more years. All I'm saying that once all is said and done, Echizen and Kintarou, as of now from what we saw, are the one that have the most possibility of becoming a strongest. Kintarou can already keep up his serve game against PoP Oni that's 5 years older than him when he's only a 1st year MS. Imagine where he'll be at 3rd year HS, and that's the real scary part.
Ryoma and Kintarou are strong, but the main reason for Ryoma's strength (I'm using him because we know more of his past than Kintarou's) is that he has faced many strong national level opponents, because he played Tezuka, Atobe, Sanada, Yukimura, and Tokugawa at the U 17 camp, if Ryoma had never played any of them, he wouldn't be anywhere near where he is now

from what we know, Tezuka, Atobe, Sanada, and Yukimura were all beasts when they were younger, but they never really played each other much in tournaments(Sanada and Yukimura probably played each other at Rikkai, and they were the two best players on the best team), besides the one time sanada beat atobe, sanada and tezuka never played each other till nationals, atobe and tezuka didn't play each other until the kantou tournament, if they had all played each other more, then they might have improved as fast as echizen did.

Tezuka has been the best at Seigaku for awhile, and by a lot, the same as atobe at hyoutei and yukimura from rikkai, but they never played each other until their last year of middle school, if they had played each other sooner, then they would have evolved faster

We do know that when tezuka was younger, before his injury, he had mastered one of the doors beyond muga, and he sealed it off for two years, if that injury had never happend then he might have been a much stronger player and not lost to Sanada at nationals.

Even kintarou didn't improve to his current level until he played Oni, after that first match, he trained for a rematch and ended up gaining ten ball tech, and during the rematch he gained the final muga door, but it's all because he played someone strong

Now that all the third years are playing high caliber players, they can start improving rapidly as well, I still agree that Ryoma and Echizen will probably end up being stronger in their third year of middle school than any of the current third years are, but I think that as long as guys like atobe and sanada continue to play strong players, they will advance as much as echizen and kintarou
 

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Well hopefully my computer issues are fixed now...if not, then they will by the end of this weekend...

That said, I'll have Sanada and Kintarou done this weekend (since this last week or so has been a combo on graphic card failures and time being consumed by Pokemon X >.>)

And to the results of the Poll,

The Next set of Profiles after Sanada and Kintarou will be:
Tezuka Kunimitsu
Yukimura Seiichi
Rest of the 1st String
Akutsu Jin
Marui Bunta
Zaizen Hikaru
 

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Zaizen? I suppose there is some mystery behind him.

Also, you play pokemon, Sai? What's your starter? Lol.
 

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Yukimura, I hope his profile mentions something about the extent of his new yips
 

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Computer is fixed for real now (after spending all day saturday moving it to a new case and replacing my video card...and the hours of reinstalling everything). So I can actually translate again without the monitor going on the fritz. As such, here is Sanada:

Sanada Gen'ichirou
As the invincible absolute kings, he is the solitary emperor that reigns over Rikkai upholding its foundation. His mind and body is completely that of a warrior.

Supplemental Info:
- The day he lost ot Yukimura, he doubled his training
- Of the regulars in the eating yakiniku, he's can eat the most after Marui.

Height: 180cm
Weight: 68kg
Handedness: Right
Shoe Size: 27.5cm
Eyesight (Unaided): Right: 2.0 Left: 2.0
Special Techniques: Muga no Kyouchi - FuuRinKaInZanRai
Playstyle: All Rounder
Shoes: Yonex POwer Cushion 21
Racket: Babolat VS Drive

School (Year, Class, Number): Rikkai Dai Fuzoku Middle School (3rd Year Class A No. 10)
Birthday: 5/21 (Taurus)
Blood Type: Type A
Hobbies: Muscle Training - Shougi - Calligraphy
Family Members: Father - Mother - Older Brother
Position in Club: Vice Captain
Committee: President of the Public Morals Committee
Favorite Color: Black - Grey
Favorite Food: Nameko Mushroom Miso Soup - Meat
Thing he wants most: A Vase he found at an antique shop
Thing you're bad at: Travelling
Specialty outside of tennis: Iai - Kendou
(TN: Iai is the art of drawing your sword, cutting the opponent and sheathing it afterwards)

Stats:

Speed - 4: Disregaridng his activation of 'Rai' or 'Fuu', he has a suitable speed. His speed when he activates his techniques is beyond comprehension.

Power - 5: The source of his Middle Schooler surpassing Power is from a ton of regular training by practicing his swing until tedium.

Stamina - 4: Whether is a short match or a long match, he can battle with a nonchalant air about him. However, using his ultimate techniques or maintaining a Muga state requires a considerable amount of stamina.

Mental - 5: His concentration that has been forged through Iai and Zen meditation is difficult for even National level opponents to be on par with. The strictness he has towards himself is also much more than others.

Technique - 5: He has a great number of sure kill techniques, but this is not only due to natural talent, but mostly because of the huge amount of effort he puts into them.

Kurobe Memo:
He's absolutely the ideal kind of player. But, I do not like how his physical ability far exceeds his mental will power too much. Well, the fact that he has powers that transcend reason is quite a big deal.

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Yukimura, I hope his profile mentions something about the extent of his new yips
The only thing specific that is mentioned is that is that his skills have evolved to send his opponents into a dream. Just a small blurb with a screen shot of when he did it to Fuwa. Nothing in the actual stats that I saw when I skimmed.
 
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Thanks for the translations. I'm almost positive that what Yukimura does to his opponents now on the regular is similar to what he did to Ryoma during their match; Ryoma had visions of when he first started playing tennis. Yukimura just probably imposes a "nightmare" onto his opponents now so that TnK doesn't burst forth from their despair.
 

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Sanada seems pretty solid in his stats, I want to see his black aura vs Yuki's nap time(cute name for his new tech/ability)
 

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Tooyama Kintarou
The super rookie of the west who is obsessed with Echizen of the East. Even though his body is small, he has physical abilities abnormal to reason.

Supplemental Info:
-During the Summer Festival, he didn't put any Octopus in his Takoyaki because he treated some depressed people in the neighborhood to it instead.
-He can tell if you're the kind of person who will share food or not based on how you smell

Height: 151cm
Weight: 52kg
Handedness: Right
Shoe Size: 26.0cm
Eyesight (Unaided): Right: 3.6 Left: 3.6
Special Techniques: Super Ultra Great Delicious Daisharin Yama Arashi - Super Megaton Wonder Deluxe Yama Funka Serve
Playstyle: All Rounder
Shoes: adidas Barricade 3
Racket: An Antique Wood Racket

School (Year, Class, Number): Shitenhouji Middle School (1st Year Class 4 No. 20)
Birthday: 4/1 (Aries)
Blood Type: Type B
Hobbies: Reading Manga
Family Members: Father - Mother - Dog
Committee: Athletic Festival Planning Committee
Favorite Color: Gold - Orange - Purple
Favorite Food: Takoyaki
Thing he wants most: Enough Takoyaki for 100 people
Thing you're bad at: Studying
Specialty outside of tennis: Eating Quickly

Stats:

Speed - 4: With incredible agility, he is like a nimble monkey with his movements. He has the running ability to chase down motocycles and busses.

Power - 5: You have to see it to believe the super human level of power he posesses. He uses his entire body to bring out the absolute limits of his power.

Stamina - 5: He ran without any hesitation from Shin-Fuji all the way to Tokyo. He has absolute faith in his stamina. Also, he thinks that this is normal to do.

Mental - 4: He has feelings to want to battle even more powerful opponents. Also, he has a bizarely strong desire not to want to lose. As it is, he's a mass of potential.

Technique - 4: He the type that will master delicate techniques on his own in the middle of a match.

Kurobe Memo:
Even though he's completely unrefined, there are not many athletes I can feel this level of potential from. The day feelings and power defeat technique and skill may possibly come.
 

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I feel like all the uber players have stats basically preaching how perfect they are. I'll wait until guys like Akutsu and Zaizen show up.
 

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I just realise he was born in April's fools... how fitting :lmao
 

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I think that the most important thing to note is Kintarou's vision. While a lot oft he top players have 2.0 vision which is the standard for 'better than perfect', Kintarou's vision is even better than that. 2.0 vision translates to 20/10 vision which means that at 20ft you can see a level of detail that most people can only see at 10 feet away. For Kintarou, he has 20/5.5 vision. which means at 20 feet away, he sees a level of detail normal people 5 and a half feet away see.
 

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I'm kind of surprised Kintarou is listed as an All rounder....i always pegged him as an aggressive baseliner.
 
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