Just because a series has sold more total units so far this year doesn't mean another series' primetime has passed. OP still sells an absurd amount.
Go look at 2 years ago sales and then last year.. I mean prime as the top the series reached. It probably won't go back to those times.
You know, the only series which are comparable in the whole top 30 are Shokugeki no Soma and Nanatsu no Taizai, imo
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I don't see AOT reaching one pieces per volume sales. 2.9mill to 2.1(including the limited additions) A few weeks back AOT's first volume ranked in the weekly top 50 and it was at something like 2.7-2.75. That should be its best selling volume ever, meaning all other volumes should presumably be less. I don't see it ever reaching one piece. IT did incredible this year so far though. 8 mill is one hell of an accomplishment,
lol, good to know I'm not the only one whose always comparing how they do on oriconYou know, the only series which are comparable in the whole top 30 are Shokugeki no Soma and Nanatsu no Taizai, imo
Even when their genres are different they're both action series (yes, Soma is action imo), they began almost at the same time, they had almost the same circulation numbers before the period described, and they had 3 volumes released during that period...And Soma won
And if you put in account the different in readership between the two magazines.. Not even those 2 are be comparable.You know, the only series which are comparable in the whole top 30 are Shokugeki no Soma and Nanatsu no Taizai, imo
Even when their genres are different they're both action series (yes, Soma is action imo), they began almost at the same time, they had almost the same circulation numbers before the period described, and they had 3 volumes released during that period...And Soma won
And OP reached a level it never had before when it was already a dominant, long-running series. I'm not a fortune teller, but I think just assuming something like that is kind of silly, no offense.
Who knows, the anime is getting a re-release on cinema. The live action didn't air yet either.
If it does 36 million again I will sure be really surprised. I don't mind being silly on this case, as it seems kinda obvious to me.
Catalog sales alone account for the difference. Check the sales totals per volume. Shingeki 1 - 11, limited edition versions of 12 and 13 sold a combined 4,902,793. Adding the standard editions of volume 12 and 13 equals 8,342,268 exactly. The Kuinaki Sentaku and Before the Fall do not appear to have been included in Shingeki's totals. One Piece had only one volume fully covered by this sales period, out of two total volumes released. Volume 72 came out seventeen days before the beginning of the chart period, missing the bulk of sales.Volume 72 sold 2,354,005 copies during the two weeks before this chart period began. If both volumes were fully accounted for, One Piece would have sold 7,290,860 copies of two volumes. Shingeki sold 8,342,268 copies of 13 volumes. Two volumes of One Piece sold 87% as many copies as thirteen volumes of Titan. Both new volumes of Titan were released during the sales period. Even without adding the number of copies One Piece volume 72 sold in the two weeks before the charts opened, One Piece sold 59% as many copies of 13 volumes of Shingeki with only one volume released during this sales period. Shingeki did not "win". It benefited from catalog sales and a lack of One Piece volumes. That's why total sales charts mean so little, they are just a matter of addition. Fewer volumes to add means lower sales. By volume tells a clearer story. One Piece retains a decisive edge there. Catalog sales were already beginning to decline when this chart period began. With a full compliment of volumes on sale by the end of the year, and declining catalog sales for Shingeki, One Piece should retake the lead when the full year charts are released in November. Comparing the popularity of two series, based only on sales, is, of course, extremely silly. Both series are massively popular in Japan. It's a big country, lots of things are popular. A heirarchy is not necessary, promoting no understanding. There really isn't a point trying to declare a winner. They are both winners.
You make it sound like one-piece needs 36 million to top the yearly chart, I dont see AOT as having any chance of getting anywhere near that, Ill be surprised if AOT tops 15 million this year, I think it could do it but I would honestly be very surprised. That 30 odd-million was the influx of all the new readers buying the 50/60 odd old volumes.
15 years for one-pieces anime this year. They are already celebrating it, if it doesn't get a movie this year ill be incredibly surprised.
Anime effect usually only happens once. Recap movies, reruns, and second seasons almost never increase sales. Assume there won't be any further anime related sales increases. It's doubtful the live action movies will increase sales.
One Piece sold 36 million for the same reason Shingeki sold 8.3 million. At the height of popularity new fans bought old volumes. That is unsustainable over the long run. Catalog sales inevitably went down, while new volume sales remained stable. The same thing is happening to Shingeki. 8.3 million is based on the anime boosting catalog sales. When catalog sales settle back down to normal, Shingeki's total sales will decline. New volume sales, I assume, will remain stable. One Piece probably never sells 36 million again. Shingeki probably peaks this year, never selling as many copies again.
I'm not talking about being first or not here! I was responding to have passed its prime question..
what do you mean ? isn't this the whole point ? that AoT's old volumes sold more the OP's ?
Silver spoon boost is manly the live action boost(for the first half of this year). Then you agree with me, on having passing the peak.. That was my point all along.
I think the point is that there are only 13 volumes of Shingeki, with plenty of reprintings due to the boost the series got from the anime. One Piece didn't get the same treatment during that time. The majority of OP sales are most likely from newer volumes only.
OP still has prints as much as we know, TXC said that Aot couldn't have reached that number with only new volumes and if OP had another new volume AoT would probably still be number one . because there is more demand on its older volumes.
he simply pointed out that if OP had another volume it PROBABLY wouldn't have changed the outcome. so i guess we all agree
But the problem is he seemed to make a correlation with that and OP being past it's prime, because SnK sold as much as it did. None of us are actually arguing with raw numbers, just that SnK got a kind of boost this year that no other series can match...OP still has prints as much as we know, TXC said that Aot couldn't have reached that number with only new volumes and if OP had another new volume AoT would probably still be number one . because there is more demand on its older volumes.
which makes the point of stating exactly what he said back at him confusing
Ore no Ko desu ka? No, a BIG no. I was talking about numbers here, but they started to talk about op being older and stuff so bla bla bla, and I responded.
My earlier posts where regarding the bolded comment.
Im so lost. What you're saying literally goes against everything you have been saying about one-piece. Apparently Shingeki hasn't reached its peak because there is upcoming movies for it whereas one-piece more than likely has because you cant see it passing 30 million again. If you were to decide when one-pieces prime was you would have to look for it either when one-piece was done or when its sales were to reach such a low level that it would be considered impossible for it to reach its previous heights. Your above post assumes that one peice has reached the heights of its popularity while Shingeki hasn't. Which is obviously illogical
The point where trying to make is: why there is a demand for new volumes to such a great degree. Were saying Nothing happened for one piece last year whereas AOT had an anime and literally became a world wide phenomenon, that would obviously bring in a shit ton more new readers. If you want to compare One-piece to AOT you should look at what their new volumes do on average in a set time period (1 year), and in that regard there is literally no way in hell AOT sells more than One-piece. Just like one piece had its outbreak in the year it sold 30mill, AOT had its own as of the second half of last year and first half of this year. I don't get what's so hard to understand about that. Kaitens earlier post literally showed how much of AOT's sales this year can be attributed to its old volumes.