Discussion The Zodiacs thread

[sparviero-92]

i voted for mizaistom, and i think kurapika already knows who the mole is

 

[hell no]

The bunny girl is the mole and also Pariston's secret lover. And Cheadle is not the mole as sometimes we knew what she was thinking about Netero, Beyond and Pariston.

 

[Alberto]

Since this is a discussion about the Zodiacs as a whole, has anyone ever discussed about each of the Zodiacs possible hatsu especialization, according to Hisoka´s distinction?

Ill start with some that i think are the most easily perceptible:

Saiyu the Monkey - Enchancement / Emission. Not really sure which to pick for him, since doesn´t look determined enough to be an enchancer, but also not impantient enough to be an emitter. He just looks to always have that lazy atitude.

Kanzai the Tiger - Emission. I think this one is pretty obvious.

Ginta the Sheep - Enchancer. The simplest guy in all the Zodiac, in my opinion.

Saccho the Horse - Conjurer. He is a trouble hunter, lol. Maybe there´s a point in a transmutter specialization, also.

Cheadle the Dog - Manipulator. Argumentative, logical, etc, etc.

Mizaistom the Ox - My guess is Manipulator. Even tough the ability he used is probably an Emission type, i think its his secondary trait, since he doesn´t strike me as the impatient / not detail oriented.

Any corrections, or other guesses?

 

[Demonspeed]

I don't think Cheadle or Mizaistom can be the traitors because their thoughts were known since the Election arc. Ginta who cheats despite his "naive" attitude and Cluck are a lot more suspicious in my eyes.

With Mizaistom revealing this secret directly to the smart Kurapika is also a reason for me to not suspect him. Kurapika himself didn't suspect him after this, he is one of the smartest if not the smartest of this manga. I can't picture him being fooled by something like that.

Since this is a discussion about the Zodiacs as a whole, has anyone ever discussed about each of the Zodiacs possible hatsu especialization, according to Hisoka´s distinction?

I made a thread about it here.

Maybe I should merge both.

 

[Pokkle]

"Saiyu was seen intercepting Kanzai with a rather long staff when the latter was about to attack Pariston. Since this weapon was nowhere around him and he was never seen carrying it after that moment, it is highly likely he conjured it."

So I think that Saiyu is a conjurer.

Cluck is a manipulator like Squala, I guess:

I think that Geru is a transmutter:

I think too that Kanzai is an emitter.

 

[Arbalest]

I don't think Cheadle or Mizaistom can be the traitors because their thoughts were known since the Election arc. Ginta who cheats despite his "naive" attitude and Cluck are a lot more suspicious in my eyes.

With Mizaistom revealing this secret directly to the smart Kurapika is also a reason for me to not suspect him. Kurapika himself didn't suspect him after this, he is one of the smartest if not the smartest of this manga. I can't picture him being fooled by something like that.



I made a thread about it here.

Maybe I should merge both.

well actually he didn't reveal anything kurapika already knew about the mole so saying it in private is just an attempt to gain his trust and cover his tracks

 

[Ener9y]

well actually he didn't reveal anything kurapika already knew about the mole so saying it in private is just an attempt to gain his trust and cover his tracks

Well technically, they aren't dealing with a common criminal, this mole is a zodiac. Revealing such theories in open will force pointing fingers, and that will end ugly. They have to investigate discreetly; again, they're dealing with a zodiac so it won't be easy, he will probably cover his tracks well. My best guess for the mole would be either the Dragon or the Monkey; something about them doesn't seem right.

 

[Riyuki]

If there HAS to be one for sure, then it's probably the monkey. He volunteerd to guard Beyond alone... lol... Although I'm sure something totally different will end up happening.

 

[Kanmuru]

If there HAS to be one for sure, then it's probably the monkey. He volunteerd to guard Beyond alone... lol... Although I'm sure something totally different will end up happening.

I believe he said that because he thinks he's super strong in a 1vs1 scenario..

 

[felixng2011]

The bunny girl is the mole and also Pariston's secret lover. And Cheadle is not the mole as sometimes we knew what she was thinking about Netero, Beyond and Pariston.

Lol I bet thats not true at least the second part :P.

 

[Uriel]

I stand by the "There is no Mole" option since I actually believe there is someone in Beyond group that can retrieve information without actual contact. If not Pariston, someone else on that group. Maybe the kimono woman.
If that's not the case, then Cluck seems to be quite fit to the role.

About Nen types...
Cheadle -> Emitter
Mizaistom -> Manipulator
Kanzai -> Transmuter (Although his technique should be Enhancer-oriented)
Piyon - Conjurer (Probably closer to Specialist)
Geru -> Transmuter (Although Enhancer is not a bad guess either. She reacted too violent, too fast against Pariston.)
Botobai > Transmuter- Enhancer (My bet is on Fire-breathing technique)
Saiyu -> Enhancer (Although He probably uses Materialization for his staff. I imagine He's deeply battle oriented and that staff has properties like Monkey King Staff)
Saccho -> Conjurer (Or Manipulation. The fact that He's a Worry Hunter actually worries me. WHAT A WORRY HUNTER HUNT?)
Ginta -> Emitter (Don't know why, though. Just a feeling. Enhancer is the best guess, but I think there is something else from this character)
Cluck -> Manipulator (And the lamest ability so far)
Pariston -> Specialist (Cant' be something simple)
Ging -> Specialist (The Top 5 Nen user in the world probably has the biggest OP technique in the world.)

 

[mrsticky005]

My vote goes to Cluck the Chicken. I believe she is using her carrier pigeon ability to communicate with Beyond.

 

[Demonspeed]

I stand by the "There is no Mole" option since I actually believe there is someone in Beyond group that can retrieve information without actual contact. If not Pariston, someone else on that group. Maybe the kimono woman.
If that's not the case, then Cluck seems to be quite fit to the role.

About Nen types...
Cheadle -> Emitter
Mizaistom -> Manipulator
Kanzai -> Transmuter (Although his technique should be Enhancer-oriented)
Piyon - Conjurer (Probably closer to Specialist)
Geru -> Transmuter (Although Enhancer is not a bad guess either. She reacted too violent, too fast against Pariston.)
Botobai > Transmuter- Enhancer (My bet is on Fire-breathing technique)
Saiyu -> Enhancer (Although He probably uses Materialization for his staff. I imagine He's deeply battle oriented and that staff has properties like Monkey King Staff)
Saccho -> Conjurer (Or Manipulation. The fact that He's a Worry Hunter actually worries me. WHAT A WORRY HUNTER HUNT?)
Ginta -> Emitter (Don't know why, though. Just a feeling. Enhancer is the best guess, but I think there is something else from this character)
Cluck -> Manipulator (And the lamest ability so far)
Pariston -> Specialist (Cant' be something simple)
Ging -> Specialist (The Top 5 Nen user in the world probably has the biggest OP technique in the world.)

Saiyu is definitely a Conjurer or a Specialist of the same type as Chrollo. He is not carrying that stick. From what I know about Sun Wukong he has 72 transformations, the famous staff and can create clones of himself with his hair. It's interesting to note that he got the ring on his head to restrain him by a Guanyin Bodhisattva and Saiyu has one.

I thought Mizai was a Conjurer or Manipulator We never see if he conjures his cards or not but his position after Pariston's declaration implies that he conjures it. Must be a Conjurer or a Specialist.

I always envisage the possibility for a Conjurer to be a Specialist now because of Kurapika VS Uvo .

 

[Riyuki]

Yeah Kurapika really jumbled things up as far as predictions go lol. I'm sure there are other characters in the HxH world that have scenarios like Kurapika's specialist w/his eyes

 

[Arbalest]

btw does anyone know if the animal representation is some real asian zodiac version or it's just netero's fun version?

 

[Impossibility]

btw does anyone know if the animal representation is some real asian zodiac version or it's just netero's fun version?

It's the Japanese Zodiac, which itself is virtually identical to most Eastern Zodiacs since they are derivatives of the Chinese Zodiac.

 

[Ener9y]

I've just noticed, the way they sit represents the Chinese Zodiac Cycle.

 

[Arbalest]

well the zodiacs did have a mole after all, hats off for kurapika the best detective/nen user for the job they should give him the horse-face's job for his incompetence

 

[Riyuki]

Lol Kurapika is so broken.... I love him, but damn come on.. He's way more OP than Ging considering when we first met Kurapika he didn't even know what the hell Nen was haha

 

[Arbalest]

Lol Kurapika is so broken.... I love him, but damn come on.. He's way more OP than Ging considering when we first met Kurapika he didn't even know what the hell Nen was haha

well consider that kurapika had a time skip we practicly didn't see him in action since greed island i'll say he had enough time to develop his abilities and his job in nostrade family facing criminal gave him the right set of mind to be a living lie detector