Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2014] - Discussion and TOC Talk - Part 7

[Heiji]

Devilyman win 9th Gold Futur Cup.

#49 (03/11) :
Haikyû (Color)

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Devilyman win 9th Gold Futur Cup.

#49 (03/11) :
Haikyû (Color)

Thought that one was pretty good, same with Brain Breaker. Rokotsu San I did not enjoy and was unable to read Nejiyama. I hope Brain Breaker gets serialized with some slight tweaks.

 

[Pietro]

In my opinion devilyman is the worst of the four,is the last of that i would have voted of the four.I think brain breaker should be the winner

 

[Leoat12]

Golden Future Cup winners hasn't had luck nowadays... NuraMago and Beelzebub made some success, yes, but since Hungry Joker, the credibility has been low...

 

[Asgaroth]

some stories don't work as a series. also the changes were great so of course the reaction could differ.

 

[Leoat12]

Iron Knight and Himedol were also a flaw. I said since Hungry Joker.

 

[DestyNova4th]

The success rate of the Golden Future Cup is too low:

2004

Spoiler

1.-Pull Soul ~ Fukushima Teppei (Samurai Usagi)
2.-Takaya: Otonari-san Panic!! ~ Sakamoto Yujiro (Takaya: Senbu Gakuen Gekitoden, Takaya: Yoake no Enjin Oh)
3.-Bullet Time!! ~ Tasaka Ryo
4.-Muhyo to Rosie no Mahoritsuso-dan Jimusho ~ Nishi Yoshiyuki (Muhyo to Rosie no Mahoritsuso-dan Jimusho, Bokke-san, Hachi)
5.-Setsuhoshi ~ Nakashima Yuki (Kirihoshi)

2005

Spoiler

1.-Usagi to Kame to Strike ~ Amano Yoishi (Over Time, Akaboshi: Ibun Suikoden, Stealth Symphony)
2.-Smashing Shonen! ~ Otake Toshiaki
3.-Baka in the City!! ~ Oishi Koji (Maison du Penguin, Inumaru Dashi)
4.-Mahotsukai Muku ~ Okubo Akira
5.-Nakkumoe ~ Murase Katsutoshi (K.O.Sen, Dois Sol)
6.-O'Clock ~ Yamamoto Asuka

2007

Spoiler

1.-Nurarihyon no Mago ~ Shibashi Hiroshi (Nurarihyon no Mago, Illegal Rare)
2.-Muddy ~ Sho Aimoto (Muddy, Hokenshitsu no Shinigami)
3.-Sugar Hero ~ Oikawa Tomoko
4.-Anaaki's ~ Futsuzawa Kakunoshin
5.-Furenai Sentai Hayata Joe ~ Kaito (Cross Manage)
6.-Clutch ~ Hamada Kosuke (Dogashi Kaden!, Pajama na Kanojo)
7.-Dracula-kun to Tenshi-san ~ Miyamoto Kazuya

2008

Spoiler

1.-Beelzebub ~ Tamura Ryuhei (Beelzebub)
2.-All Biter Kintaro ~ Takahashi Hideki
3.-Kakuto Oji ~ Matsuyuki Yo
4.-Kurogane ~ Hirakata Masahiro (Shinmai Fukei Kiruko-san)

2009

Spoiler

1.-Meiji Hyakki Yakou-tan Dengi ~ Shibata Yusaku (Yoakemono)
2.-Crown! ~ Inayoshi Kei & Kobayashi Tsutomu
3.-North Island ~ Ando Ei
4.-Yonaoshi Densetsu!! Sena Osaero ~ Konda Keiji
5.-Metallica Metalluca ~ Mizuno Teruaki (Metallica Metalluca)

2010

Spoiler

1.-Kikai Banashi Hanasaka Ikkyu ~ Komiyama Kenta & Kawada Yuya (Kikai Banashi Hanasaka Ikkyu, Smokey B.B.)
2.-Shunkan x Heroism ~ Miura Satoru
3.-Chrono Mansion ~ Yahagi Hayato & Hidano Kentaro
4.-Uchu Takyu ~ Uno Tomoya
5.-Sengoku Basho ~ Ogura Yuya

2011

Spoiler

1.-Takamagahara ~ Kawai Juzo (Takamagahara)
2.-Sins ~ Miura Takashi
3.-Tsukimi no Soba ~ Ogura Yuya
4.-Murahagane ~ Yashirogaku
5.-Hungry Joker ~ Tabata Yuki (Hungry Joker)
6.-Wolf x Red ~ Kasahashi Hideki

2012

Spoiler

1.-Goblin Night ~ Yagi Tomohiro (Iron Knight)
2.-Koi no Cupid Yakenohara Jin ~ Hasewaga Tomohiro (Koi no Cupid Yakenohara Jin)
3.-Hokago Idol ~ Kyo Kazuro (Himedol!!)
4.-Inpwear Code ~ Ikeda Keisuke

Only NuraMago and Beelzebub...

Green Winner this year.
Bold Serialized authors.

 

[Samui]

Question.

Oda for example makes a lot of money (in the billions of yen range), but how much of it is actually put aside for later? I read that with his wage, he must pay 40% of it as tax. That's a lot. Then there's supporting his family on daily basis, etc.

How would his bank account look like? Any idea? Obviously he can be considered a millionaire, right?

 

[Leoat12]

We have no idea, generally people don't talk about their bank accounts.... We can say that he is millionaire though.

 

[SharkBait]

We have no idea, generally people don't talk about their bank accounts.... We can say that he is millionaire though.

How do we know if he is a millionaire if we dont know his bank accounts or other assets?

 

[RafaFedKilla]

Also, as mangaka what would you spend money on, especially someone as work consumed as Oda....

 

[Silverblade]

Somehow.

 

[Leoat12]

How do we know if he is a millionaire if we dont know his bank accounts or other assets?

One Piece is the biggest manga in history, it sells 3 million every volume. Please, you do not need to be genius to come to that conclusion. Simple math can say it to you.

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Somehow.

Here we have the simple math I'm talking about.
He earns just 10%? I thought he earned much more than this, he does the hard work.

 

[WesKR]

Does he not get royalty from the anime?

 

[Samui]

Also, as mangaka what would you spend money on, especially someone as work consumed as Oda....

The money goes into supporting his family. Also for future savings.

 

[Silverblade]

He earns just 10%? I thought he earned much more than this, he does the hard work.

Manga industry has a very high royalty percentage compared to western comic book authors who on average get something around 5% for pros and even far below that for beginners.

 

[Leoat12]

Manga industry has a very high royalty percentage compared to western comic book authors who on average get something around 5% for pros and even far below that for beginners.

I didn't know that, it's very strange to me. xD
However, the publisher has more costs with the production, I understand this point...

 

[SharkBait]

Does he not get royalty from the anime?

I guess they have no way of knowing how much he would earn from the anime, toys and merchandise.

 

[Josl]

A Japanese television show once calculated how much money Oda makes. Greg from OP Podcast (and so on) translated it and posted it:

Interesting program on TV attempted to break down Oda’s salary. They admit it’s NOT 100% concrete but they attempted to be as accurate as possible. They brought in three guests to help deal with the calculations, all of them big-time former... editors:

Nobuhiko Horie- Former editor of City Hunter and former editor-in-chief of Weekly Shonen JUMP

Pak Chon-Hyong- Former editor of GTO @ Shonen Magazine

Ryunosuke Ito- Former editor of Psychometrer Eiji @ Young Magazine

First they looked at the fields authors get their money from:
(keep in mind these values are ROUGHLY in dollars)

-Original Work
They suggested a manga author typically can make $100 per page and can move up from there with experience. Two of the panel suggested Oda is currently paid $500 per page, the other suggested $300. They went with $500. and decided to calculate 500 by 20 pages by 48 chapters per year. This works out to roughly $480,000

(If I was doing it I probably would have calculated at 19 pages given Oda’s current work.)

-Printing Tax

This is the figure for tanks. Authors receive approximately 10% of sales. That roughly $4.20 times 32,340,000 tanks sold last year (!!!) times 10%. Roughly $13,582,800.

@_@

-Use of Properties

This is for the anime and movie(s) whenever they’re aired or shown. The author is estimated to get about $3,000 per episode $10,000 per movie. With 50 anime episodes per year and one film that’s $160,000

-Foreign Use

Basically what he gets from overseas sales. They estimate it at $2,000,000.

-Use of Characters

Essentially what he receives for the use of characters for merchandise and DVD sales. They estimated $15,000,000.

Add it all up?

$31,222,800
@_@

 

[101nemesis]

So I guess that the reason authors of big manga series like One Piece, Bleach etc have 2 editors is because of all the calculation that goes into the franchise earnings and to ensure they don't give or take extra money from either sides?