Discussion How strong is Doflamingo?

[jamarTheDem]

Would you prefer a fight like luvvy vs lucci where he had bits in every chapter but had the chapters show the bustercall or just have all of it at the end of the other fights?

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In versatility DD rivals luffy which is an amazing feat.

The great thing about gear 2 and 3 are that they can be explained with physics kinda and show luffy's battle genius. I can't imagine what else could be used as gear 4th?

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Maybe luffy uses his CoC Haki. Shanks damaged Whitebeards ship with his sheer presence. Maybe we see luffy escaping DD's net through a wave of CoC?

DD could enrage luffy by telling him that people kill their families ever since the birdcage started and luffy is just waisting time or something similar true villain style

This what I'd predict Gear 4 would be like .

 

[desin24]

This what I'd predict Gear 4 would be like .

That's pretty cool. Isn't it in usage and effect too similar to gear 2?

 

[FetherMan]

so as strong as hodi?

Doflamingo doesn't take steroids like Hodi did. So, Hodi probably would've died, if it weren't for the drugs.

Just saying.

 

[jamarTheDem]

That's pretty cool. Isn't it in usage and effect too similar to gear 2?

I heard it was a throw away , it was a runner up to be a gear I heard . I'm not sure though lol

Well atlease we know Doflamingo strong enough pluck strings all instead Law (do he even have organs) , kick Luffy with CoA Haki , tie his hands up while he's flying and then control Bellamy making him punch the Going Merry outta Luffy . Lol

 

[desin24]

I heard it was a throw away , it was a runner up to be a gear I heard . I'm not sure though lol

Well atlease we know Doflamingo strong enough pluck strings all instead Law (do he even have organs) , kick Luffy with CoA Haki , tie his hands up while he's flying and then control Bellamy making him punch the Going Merry outta Luffy . Lol

Law definitely takes a beating à la Zoro this arc^^ he might not have any organs in him but all of them are on the Sunny.

Doflamingo said something this chapter about a gift he has besides being born a Tenryuubito and he might mean CoC Haki. Maybe he infuses CoC Haki into his strings to make people bide his will?

The red hawk also did not slow him down a bit since he overwhelmed luffy with speed and strength/haki

 

[jamarTheDem]

Law definitely takes a beating à la Zoro this arc^^ he might not have any organs in him but all of them are on the Sunny.

Doflamingo said something this chapter about a gift he has besides being born a Tenryuubito and he might mean CoC Haki. Maybe he infuses CoC Haki into his strings to make people bide his will?

The red hawk also did not slow him down a bit since he overwhelmed luffy with speed and strength/haki

If not on Sunny he sent it to his crew at Zoa lol

I Think he meant CoC too . It's be nice if he could add CoC to his devil fruit ability . That would he new and amazing .

Yeah the red Hawk is starting to be his go to attack . Forreal .

 

[FetherMan]

Is it possible that Roger was a part of one of the Noble families, but just didn't know it...?. Maybe he and DD were similar, the difference is, Roger wasn't interested in destroying the world, but evolving it from the World Government.

 

[desin24]

Is it possible that Roger was a part of one of the Noble families, but just didn't know it...?. Maybe he and DD were similar, the difference is, Roger wasn't interested in destroying the world, but evolving it from the World Government.

I think Roger's point of view is heavily influenced by hearing the voice of all things and reading the ryuu poneglyph and thus knowing the true history of the world and of the WG.
DD just wants revenge for them looking down on him which is what he hates the most.

Roger was just a man from the East Blue and I hope he stays just a man. The only thing setting him apart is his lineage and being a D

 

[BlackHair]

Pretty strong!

I agree. Over 5000!

 

[FetherMan]

I think, Doflamingo is weaker than Kuma and Mihawk. I'd say, Kuma is the strongest of all the Shichikubai, if he's still alive that is.

 

[enmymiguel]

well DD is really powerful.
if luffy was not the main character. i think DD would beat him really easy. the guy could cut stuff fast. and luffy move take time to get ready.

but hey what about gear 2....forget about that. law in room is faster than anything. and DD could fight him really easy.

luffy haki is strong. but DD haki is stronger...last chapter it show that luffy with hes haki cannot block DD if he is using haki as well.

 

[I Am Atomic]

I think, Doflamingo is weaker than Kuma and Mihawk. I'd say, Kuma is the strongest of all the Shichikubai, if he's still alive that is.

How is Kuma stronger than Mihawk? Zoro managed to cut Kuma but i am sure he couldnt do that against Mihawk at that time. If Kuma was a human he would have been defeated because of blood loss cuz it was a deep cut!

 

[desin24]

I think, Doflamingo is weaker than Kuma and Mihawk. I'd say, Kuma is the strongest of all the Shichikubai, if he's still alive that is.

Since Kuma is a robot and Haki is willpower he may not be able to use it. As a Human with his fruit he is incredibly powerful especially since he can push away all sustained damage and pain, but being turned into a robot IMO he was nerfed by Oda.
Mihawk= Sharpest Sword+Yonkou level swordsman
Kuma is not stronger than Mihawk IMO it would not be a roflstomp but there is definitely a gap.
Is paw-paw fruit > string string in your eyes?

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well DD is really powerful.
if luffy was not the main character. i think DD would beat him really easy. the guy could cut stuff fast. and luffy move take time to get ready.

but hey what about gear 2....forget about that. law in room is faster than anything. and DD could fight him really easy.

luffy haki is strong. but DD haki is stronger...last chapter it show that luffy with hes haki cannot block DD if he is using haki as well.

I think DD is stronger than luffy like all main villains he has faced except Hody.
Well Luffy will overcome his weakness to sharp objects or learn how to deal better with it during this fight. He definitely will improve while fighting and we have to see new stuff, especially what luffy developed in those 6 months he was alone.

Since Haki is willpower i think it depends on the situation. Luffy trained with the Dark King for a reason and his willpower is beyomd reason. He still needs experience to become a haki master like Sabo but I don't think there is a big gap between him and Doflamingo

 

[Fox666]

I think DD is stronger than luffy like all main villains he has faced except Hody.

I am not sure about Rob Lucci or Moriah being stronger than Luffy.

 

[Impossibility]

I am not sure about Rob Lucci or Moriah being stronger than Luffy.

To be fair to Moriah, the first time he took on Luffy he wasn't much bothered. He handled him with relative ease. It was only after Luffy was pumped up with a legion of shadows that he was a real threat. And Moriah's loss was as much because of that and his battle against the SHs as it was his ridiculous plan.

 

[Holt]

Currently DD seems quite stronger than luffy. Perhaps luffy learnt something else while he was alone that could help. Or he evolves here or maybe learns something new by both watching DD and law explaining DD's abilities to him like he learn soru by watching cp9. But I doubt he can defeat DF at his current level.
I don't think law while really feature in the fight. The swapping thing seemed to be their only combo move and I doubt DD is falling for that again. He'll probably just provide occasional backup. And he's quite weakened. He already fought against issho and DD and got quite injured.
As for DD rank, i'll say he's 2nd strongest shicibukia after mihawk. But still quite a way beneath yonkou and admirals.

 

[Madness20]

Kuma isn't anywhere near Doflamingo level, in fact i doubt Kuma would beat Hancock on 1v1, just because Hancock has all sorts of haki, and Mihawk would most probably one-shot Kuma easily, probably even Zoro can do it now.
About Doflamingo, he's certainly the 2nd strongest shichibukai, stronger than marco, ace and other "pre-yonkou" levels, but still weaker than mihawk.

 

[desin24]

Kuma isn't anywhere near Doflamingo level, in fact i doubt Kuma would beat Hancock on 1v1, just because Hancock has all sorts of haki, and Mihawk would most probably one-shot Kuma easily, probably even Zoro can do it now.
About Doflamingo, he's certainly the 2nd strongest shichibukai, stronger than marco, ace and other "pre-yonkou" levels, but still weaker than mihawk.

I think you underestimate Kuma and his Paw Paw fruit. I do agree that DD and probably Hancock could beat him, especially if he lost Haki by losing his free will.
I think you went too far by adding Marco. I don't believe Marco was listed by the Gorosei to be one of the few who could stop BB post marineford, the others being the Yonkou.
I think that if you reach a high enough "powerlevel" there can no longer be any stomping and oneshotting.

 

[Holt]

I don't think kuma is particularly strong. IMO he's one of the lower- shicibukia (both current and ex). I'll only put him above buggy and moria. Moria being particularly vunerable in one on one fights. Marco and the other commanders should be able to beat him. Aside from his DF, he should be equal to the other pacifista and we've seen how easily capable fighters take them down. His DF gives him an edge, but not so much that's he a big shot.

 

[jamarTheDem]

I don't agree . lol Kuma wasn't consider one of the weakest Warlord , he's actually one of the strongest and the only ones you can put on top of him at the time was Hawk-Eyes , Doflamingo, Blackbeard and Jinbe . That's all . He's inbetween Boa and Crocodile . He's not weak being able to take on the entire Straw Hat crew with ease , then once again instead of defeating them he saved them by sending them away to varies islands . He's way stronger than Buggy and Moria .