Society Manga distributors arrested

[ttxdragon]

being strict not only the scanners are in danger...
they are just part of the chain of people who work with illegal material and distribute it.
but they are the easiest targets, as without the people to scan we won't be able to start with the rest of the chain.


as to if the ones scanning for us are in danger:
Sure, but to a very low degree compared to japanese scanners.

Because, the scanners here don't use a way to distribute them that the police already said they would strengthen their hold on.
Furthermore, they aren't in japan, but in other countries around the world, which makes it even harder


but in the end, we all sit in the same boat, for manga and anime in raw and Edited Manga/fansub are illegally distributed and altered copyright-protected materials.

 

[HikaruYami]

But can you really blame those that want to read the manga that comes out in Japan who don't speak Japanese?! There are some mangas in Japan that NEVER make it to America (though almost all popular ones do >>), and online Edited Mangas (or at least the RAW + Translations) are the only way for those people to view them. ^^"

But honestly, if everyone in the world spoke Japanese, I would simply import Shonen Jump for myself and read it every week, basically ignoring people online who wanted to read it (everyone in the world could speak Japanese, so "But my parents won't let me!" wouldn't be a good enough excuse for not getting Shonen Jump imported themselves for me). But even once the manga gets licensed, or an anime gets licensed, it's usually not quite as good as (sometimes horribly worse than) the Japanese versions. So it's only natural for us to get the original versions and have them translated by our awesome members who know enough Japanese.

 

[Vato Loco!]

But can you really blame those that want to read the manga that comes out in Japan who don't speak Japanese?!

Yes, you really can blame them. Regardless of how you feel about manga, it is still a crime to do what they, and we do. NAMBLA can justify what they do and stand for, as much as they want, but that doesn't change the fact that it's a crime.

Still, they had it coming if they only did it to brag that they were the fastest.

 

[Megy]

I feel bad for the poor guys who got arrested. I mean, just think about it, at one time all of us have probably downloaded one of their raws. We've dirtied out hands as well, but the scanners, the ones that work the hardest for raws, get in trouble.

I buy translated manga and I try to support the industry. I don't want Shounen Jump/Sunday to view us as criminals. We have NO defense for downloaing, we just want translated manga right away. But that's impossible due to copyrights and distribution, and it's damn shame.

 

[xi0]

I feel bad for the poor guys who got arrested. I mean, just think about it, at one time all of us have probably downloaded one of their raws. We've dirtied out hands as well, but the scanners, the ones that work the hardest for raws, get in trouble.

I buy translated manga and I try to support the industry. I don't want Shounen Jump/Sunday to view us as criminals. We have NO defense for downloaing, we just want translated manga right away. But that's impossible due to copyrights and distribution, and it's damn shame.

They arrested people who scanned the magazines, not those who downloaded them. They couldn't possibly go after each person who downloads them.

Regardless of the reasons why people download scanlated manga, it's still in a gray area as far as legality. That will never change.

 

[Crayola]

They arrested people who scanned the magazines, not those who downloaded them. They couldn't possibly go after each person who downloads them.

Regardless of the reasons why people download scanlated manga, it's still in a gray area as far as legality. That will never change.

so i take it that this wouldn't be a good thing to add to my resume in the future

 

[ttxdragon]

as long as you don't mention the illegal part of it....

just put "experience in editing/redrawing/repairing/cleaning black and white art with photoshop" or something like that

[nami] Yes ^^...."Extremely talented and well-versed in Adobe Photoshop and good in graphic design" [/nami]

[eni]References can be requested at the impoundment archive of the secret service. [/eni]

 

[holmes221]

Then what about MH? Will be taken down in the future? I hope not...

 

[yoniekai]

as long as we dont touch licensed stuff, this site's okay. back then they killed groups scanning licensed

what bugs me is how can narutofan stay firm all these time without getting killed by the companies

 

[njt]

as long as we dont touch licensed stuff, this site's okay. back then they killed groups scanning licensed

what bugs me is how can narutofan stay firm all these time without getting killed by the companies

same reason why sites like stoptazmo, nationalanime, and all the other sites that offer downloads for a premium (or not) of licensed stuff^^

free publicity for the companies, that and well they know that there is more good with having the anime get around and known then to have it not be known and die^^

I'm thinking the reason why the industry is having such a big "Boom" is because of all the sharing that is going around, and how anime is getting to be everywhere...

 

[Gold Knight]

I think yoniekai is probably referring to the fact Narutofan is making money off other people's work.

I've never understood it either.

 

[lordHokage]

I think yoniekai is probably referring to the fact Narutofan is making money off other people's work.

I've never understood it either.

That’s what makes life so interesting, you work hard for something and someone steals it away.

 

[yoniekai]

I think yoniekai is probably referring to the fact Narutofan is making money off other people's work.

I've never understood it either.

yeah, cause Edited Manga is illegal and more is scanning licensed but NF makes money out of it too, and they have tons of users, very hustler-y

 

[njt]

I'm not saying that they don't, I'm just saying the very sites that bash them do the same thing .

http://national-anime.com
↑ran by kane that hosts stop tazmo^^

 

[yoniekai]

I'm not saying that they don't, I'm just saying the very sites that bash them do the same thing .

http://national-anime.com
↑ran by kane that hosts stop tazmo^^

i didnt know that! that is really crooked, it's a battle of hustlers

 

[holmes221]

I'm not saying that they don't, I'm just saying the very sites that bash them do the same thing .

http://national-anime.com
↑ran by kane that hosts stop tazmo^^

Wow this is freak.. A long time back I heard that they are bashing Narutofan badly. But they even do the same thing. yahh who is the bad guy now


I don't get it quite right about licensed stuff.
I know that Bleach anime and Naruto anime are licensed - means they are bought by US company and being broadcasted in US..
But what about manga. Naruto and Bleach manga are published in US too.
In anyway all printed publications are licensed stuff or copyrighted, aren't they?

 

[Gold Knight]

i didnt know that! that is really crooked, it's a battle of hustlers

Eh. There's also nobody to stop them. Right now. So presently, it's just two competing businesses throwing mud at each other... kinda like politics

The part about "nobody stopping them" is why it is all happening. To that respect, I think NJT is right in that most manga distributors are just letting it go by because they know that without worldwide publicity, they would have never gotten as many fans as they have today. And there's still plenty of manga that will need the attention and the necessary exposure for there to be demand for them.

But at the same time, I'm quite surprised that they are allowed to make money themselves. Maybe they're being considered as "salesmen" and have been deemed to be worthy of the cut for their sites. Either that, or the companies are secretly planning to sue them for all that they're worth in the near future.

xD

 

[Roanapur]

as long as we dont touch licensed stuff

*breaks out in a nervous sweat*

 

[ddadain]

Lol

>_> That means I am in danger if I scanlate ANY popular manga since a company has the distribution rights to the Japanese mangas in China (including Taiwan, Macau and Hong Kong).

Sad... imma so scared >_>

 

[KaitenV]

Eh. There's also nobody to stop them. Right now. So presently, it's just two competing businesses throwing mud at each other... kinda like politics

The part about "nobody stopping them" is why it is all happening. To that respect, I think NJT is right in that most manga distributors are just letting it go by because they know that without worldwide publicity, they would have never gotten as many fans as they have today. And there's still plenty of manga that will need the attention and the necessary exposure for there to be demand for them.

But at the same time, I'm quite surprised that they are allowed to make money themselves. Maybe they're being considered as "salesmen" and have been deemed to be worthy of the cut for their sites. Either that, or the companies are secretly planning to sue them for all that they're worth in the near future.

xD

I've yet to see a single manga ad outside of manga? Yet it still sells. <.<