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More than that I think he has to know the location before teleporting to a place, which means he needs to have been there at least once...simple logic really.
 

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I don't really think so, I think that he can also "launch" himself in a general direction for a set amount of distance, and he's stronger than Moriah so I think that he can teleport himself with a small boat, in the middle of the sea.
Also, Aokiji can freeze the sea, Doflamingo can move like Tarzan using even the clouds, Pell can fly, Franky can misteriously build wonderful bridges out of unusable rubbles, so he could build a flying machine like nothing. Some people can walk by kicking air, some other can simply swim through the calm belt, some other could try to map the sea below by watching it from a moving sky island.

And I'm sure that there are hundreds of other ways to find Raftel by cheating, but those methods can work only if there is an island in the sea, ready to be found.

My crazy theory is that after the last "regular" island in the Grand Line there's simply the Reverse Mountain and nothing else, and that's one of the reasons why Raftel was not re-discovered yet: there's simply no trace of it, aside from what Gold Roger and Whitebeard said.
Of course it exist, but for some reason it's simply unperceivable, and there are no maps, no infos, no proofs of its existence, nothing to tell you how to reach it.

After reaching the end of the Grand Line and seeing the Reverse Mountain and nothing else, many would become disheartened. Only few will keep searching, only those that really have faith in Gold Roger's last words.

I wouldn't be surprised if the first Yonko Luffy will beat will tell him that "there's a bad news" for him at the end of his journey, while the second will tell him bluntly that Raftel does not exist.
 

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I think it´s more than likely that you can only find Raftel if you can hear the voice of all things like Roger did, Luffy has already awakened the ability
 

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I don't really think so, I think that he can also "launch" himself in a general direction for a set amount of distance, and he's stronger than Moriah so I think that he can teleport himself with a small boat, in the middle of the sea.
Also, Aokiji can freeze the sea, Doflamingo can move like Tarzan using even the clouds, Pell can fly, Franky can misteriously build wonderful bridges out of unusable rubbles, so he could build a flying machine like nothing. Some people can walk by kicking air, some other can simply swim through the calm belt, some other could try to map the sea below by watching it from a moving sky island.

And I'm sure that there are hundreds of other ways to find Raftel by cheating, but those methods can work only if there is an island in the sea, ready to be found.

My crazy theory is that after the last "regular" island in the Grand Line there's simply the Reverse Mountain and nothing else, and that's one of the reasons why Raftel was not re-discovered yet: there's simply no trace of it, aside from what Gold Roger and Whitebeard said.
Of course it exist, but for some reason it's simply unperceivable, and there are no maps, no infos, no proofs of its existence, nothing to tell you how to reach it.

After reaching the end of the Grand Line and seeing the Reverse Mountain and nothing else, many would become disheartened. Only few will keep searching, only those that really have faith in Gold Roger's last words.

I wouldn't be surprised if the first Yonko Luffy will beat will tell him that "there's a bad news" for him at the end of his journey, while the second will tell him bluntly that Raftel does not exist.
Exactly. If it was just like a normal island then all the strong people would have found it by now. So only a specific person can find. So that specific person might have specific ability, as miyamoto mushashi said.
 

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I don't really think so, I think that he can also "launch" himself in a general direction for a set amount of distance, and he's stronger than Moriah so I think that he can teleport himself with a small boat, in the middle of the sea.
Also, Aokiji can freeze the sea, Doflamingo can move like Tarzan using even the clouds, Pell can fly, Franky can misteriously build wonderful bridges out of unusable rubbles, so he could build a flying machine like nothing. Some people can walk by kicking air, some other can simply swim through the calm belt, some other could try to map the sea below by watching it from a moving sky island.

And I'm sure that there are hundreds of other ways to find Raftel by cheating, but those methods can work only if there is an island in the sea, ready to be found.

My crazy theory is that after the last "regular" island in the Grand Line there's simply the Reverse Mountain and nothing else, and that's one of the reasons why Raftel was not re-discovered yet: there's simply no trace of it, aside from what Gold Roger and Whitebeard said.
Of course it exist, but for some reason it's simply unperceivable, and there are no maps, no infos, no proofs of its existence, nothing to tell you how to reach it.

After reaching the end of the Grand Line and seeing the Reverse Mountain and nothing else, many would become disheartened. Only few will keep searching, only those that really have faith in Gold Roger's last words.

I wouldn't be surprised if the first Yonko Luffy will beat will tell him that "there's a bad news" for him at the end of his journey, while the second will tell him bluntly that Raftel does not exist.
It was already explained that when entering the NW, there can be different combinations of islands. The path to Raftel is based on the islands you visit, it's all a matter of finding the right combination. Then there is the Pose who can show which path is the safest, and because of that many will try to take the safest path,but not Luffy who takes the dangerous one, because it's more fun.
And in order to even make it past those islands you need to defeat the Yonko, so it's not like it's open to everyone to reach.
You seem to forget that Shanks was part of Roger's crew, as such he should have a good idea of how to reach it. However he didn't go after it because he most likely doesn't want to. He already made a bet on Luffy and the young generation of pirates.
That's really not how teleportation works, if he were to cheat like you said he could end up in the middle of the water, and since he's a user he would just drown...He needs to know the location beforehand.
 

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You seem to forget that Shanks was part of Roger's crew, as such he should have a good idea of how to reach it. However he didn't go after it because he most likely doesn't want to. He already made a bet on Luffy and the young generation of pirates..
This actually reminds me, I had a theory that Shanks knows where Raftel is and can reach it if he wants to, but he took up Roger's mission of searching for that "chosen" person.
 

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This actually reminds me, I had a theory that Shanks knows where Raftel is and can reach it if he wants to, but he took up Roger's mission of searching for that "chosen" person.
Most likely, or he simply is conflicted about the truth they found out, with the Rio Poneglyph being there.
The moment Luffy said that he wanted to be PK, I think Shanks realized that it was Luffy who will succeed Roger, that's why he's not pursuing that dream anymore.

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About what One Piece might be, I have a bit of a theory about that. I remember watching Space adventure Cobra, and in that show a certain Captain Nelson hid a treasure, and had the map tattooed on the back of his three daughters. Later on when Cobra finds the treasure it had the usual gold, diamonds etc, and he overlooks something that looks like an egg. It turns out that thing is the real treasure, and it's the Ultimate weapon. The egg can transform into any kind of weapon.
I think that One Piece might be similar, it's not the gold and diamonds, it's something else that might be more important, and could turn into a key element in the story. I know the Rio Poneglyph kinda fits that description, but it's a bit too predictable at this point. Maybe One Piece is something that can control the ancient weapons. And I wonder if it's not related to the national treasure DD was talking about.
 
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It was already explained that when entering the NW, there can be different combinations of islands. The path to Raftel is based on the islands you visit, it's all a matter of finding the right combination. Then there is the Pose who can show which path is the safest, and because of that many will try to take the safest path,but not Luffy who takes the dangerous one, because it's more fun.
And in order to even make it past those islands you need to defeat the Yonko, so it's not like it's open to everyone to reach.
You seem to forget that Shanks was part of Roger's crew, as such he should have a good idea of how to reach it. However he didn't go after it because he most likely doesn't want to. He already made a bet on Luffy and the young generation of pirates.
That's really not how teleportation works, if he were to cheat like you said he could end up in the middle of the water, and since he's a user he would just drown...He needs to know the location beforehand.
What you said is true. What if the marines/WG wanted to find One Piece? Why? With that the great pirate era can be stopped. Pirate group doesn't have many ships to try out different combinations of islands, but marines do. So they should have found it.
 

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What about that theory that stats that One Piece is in space/one of the moons? It would explain why it's so "unreachable".
 

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It was already explained that when entering the NW, there can be different combinations of islands. The path to Raftel is based on the islands you visit, it's all a matter of finding the right combination. Then there is the Pose who can show which path is the safest, and because of that many will try to take the safest path,but not Luffy who takes the dangerous one, because it's more fun.
And in order to even make it past those islands you need to defeat the Yonko, so it's not like it's open to everyone to reach.
You seem to forget that Shanks was part of Roger's crew, as such he should have a good idea of how to reach it. However he didn't go after it because he most likely doesn't want to. He already made a bet on Luffy and the young generation of pirates.
That's really not how teleportation works, if he were to cheat like you said he could end up in the middle of the water, and since he's a user he would just drown...He needs to know the location beforehand.
Regarding Kuma... ending in the middle of the sea is likely, especially if he tries to teleport "10 km away, east". That's why I said he needs to to teleport with a small boat :D
But Kuma is really only a mere teaspoon of sea water in the ocean of the incredibly handy abilities oda created and will create, abilities that could be used by the craziest and most determined persons to reach a single regular island, even if it's surrounded by the harshest conditions ever.
Because they are pirates. Ok, better than real world pirates, but pirates nonethenless. People like Luffy, Rayleigh and Shanks are rare gems, the rest of them is the lovely scum of the seas we all love. And some of them are also powerful and sharp.

So, we have a single island, Über handy abilities like it's raining and realistic pirates, realistic pirates everywhere. And it's like 25 years that no one can reach it, and before that it's likely that for centuries no one did. And of course Yonkos were not always here to stop the rookies.

Oda is a great writer, so it's highly unlikely that Raftel is still a mistery because every single person that could have cheated has done otherwise because "honor", or because he was suffering of Uncanny Dumbness attacks.

If you ask me, even if I can not reach it I would try to mount on something like a blimp to see it from a distance and drawing it's shape and an approximative map of its location, thus making tons of money and gaining fame.

I do admit that Shanks may be able to reach Raftel but he's waiting for Luffy, he's one of the special cases, and I extend this status to any single Gold Roger crewmate still roaming the sea, with Buggy as the only exception.

Let's talk about the sea currents. From the four seas they go up the Reverse mountain into the Grand line, surrounded by the calm belts, where there are not sea currents. So, if all the water in the oceans go into the Grand line, from where no water can escape... How come that the four seas are still there? The water that keeps this pressure system on and working... where does it come from, if the end of the Grand Line is depicted as surrounded by the Calm Belt?

I repeat myself: To me Raftel exists, but it's simply the greatest mistery in One Piece World... Or else, it wouldn't have been a mistery for all this time. A mistery so great that if you go at the end of the Grand Line, you find no Raftel at all.

EDIT: Just read the bit about Mariejois National Treasure and One Piece: I agree with you on this, also for me they seems related.
 
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If Shanks know where One Piece is because he was in Roger's crew then Buggy should know this information too. Sure he couldn't go there because the NW is harsh but now he is a Shichibukai and is free to go. Most pirates won't attack him because of his current title and all the exaggerations. If he didn't want it for himself then he could have sold this information but he didn't.

So one reason would be that he doesn't know where One Piece. The second reason is that he won't tell because he respects his captain and crew or in simple words he don't want to betray his ex-crew.

We know Buggy has an important role to play in the future (which i hate), so it might have something to do with this.
 

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If Shanks know where One Piece is because he was in Roger's crew then Buggy should know this information too. Sure he couldn't go there because the NW is harsh but now he is a Shichibukai and is free to go. Most pirates won't attack him because of his current title and all the exaggerations. If he didn't want it for himself then he could have sold this information but he didn't.

So one reason would be that he doesn't know where One Piece. The second reason is that he won't tell because he respects his captain and crew or in simple words he don't want to betray his ex-crew.

We know Buggy has an important role to play in the future (which i hate), so it might have something to do with this.
Yep, Buggy has deep respect for Gold Roger, and it's also trying to become Pirate King, but he does like to cheat. Not only he didn't tried to reach Raftel by now, but it seems that Yonkos, big pirates or the marines won't try to capture him and torture him until he spits out where Raftel is and all he remembers about when Gold Roger reached it. Or the Pirate King crew members don't know where Raftel is, or simply they have no useful informations to give to those that are the closest to find it, but still can't do it for some reason.
 

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What about that theory that stats that One Piece is in space/one of the moons? It would explain why it's so "unreachable".
if it was, then eneru would have found it, or have a clue

as for shanks, hell, even buggy should know at least what it is, yet with that knowledge he never once stated intentions of being pirate king, shanks should know what it is, and have even a clue about where it is, but no attempts shown.....it seems like a trend with the stronger pirates (excluding blackbeard) is that those who might have ANY idea of raftel give no fucks about finding it, and apart from BB , no STRONG pirate gives a shit anyway. now for the question that trumps anything in this thread
WAS/IS MIHAWK A PIRATE and if so DOES/DID he have a crew

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Yep, Buggy has deep respect for Gold Roger, and it's also trying to become Pirate King, but he does like to cheat. Not only he didn't tried to reach Raftel by now, but it seems that Yonkos, big pirates or the marines won't try to capture him and torture him until he spits out where Raftel is and all he remembers about when Gold Roger reached it. Or the Pirate King crew members don't know where Raftel is, or simply they have no useful informations to give to those that are the closest to find it, but still can't do it for some reason.
they all have useful information on them
 

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This isn't related to the ongoing Raftel talk, but it doesn't really fit on the predictions for the next chapter (796) and may sound a bit crazy, so here it goes:

Kaidou learns from Kidd's Alliance that Doflamingo is down;
as a partnership, or after subduing the Supernovas, he takes one of their ships and moves to the island were he was supposed to be;
Trying to avoid an execution by the hands of Kaidou, Caribou spills the beans about Shirahoshi's secret;
set on waging war against the world, Kaidou goes full Crocodile-mode and decides to grab Poseidon for himself, moving towards Fishman Island;
The Mugiwaras move towards Wano (or wherever the Sunny's crew currently is) together with the Happo Navy (or whoever gives 'em a ride);
after the situation on the current island is dealt with (possibly half an arc), the Mugiwaras rush to protect the Mermaids from Kaidou's attack;
to go back, they get their hands on a Eternal Pose to Fishman's Island... possibly from Jinbe;
oh yes, before reaching Wano (or wherever) Luffy and company end up meeting up with Jinbe and Wadatsumi, as Jinbe was trying to reach Big Mom to leave her service... and she just happened to be near all the action. Jinbe then shows the Poneglyph to Robin.

... The Strawhats reach Fishman Island, fight Kaidou (with or without Big Mom's help... as she seemed to be headed to that direction and Lola's Vivre Card is still a possibility), break all the things...

and end up fulfilling Madam Shyarly's Prophecy.
(also, they end up saving everyone by using Noah... completing Joyboy's promisse as bearers of the Will of the D. Clan.)
 

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Nice theory, but personally I think Shyarly's prophecy will come true when Luffy destroys Mariejoie at the end of the manga, which is exactly above FI. While the current FI will be destroyed, the Fishmen will be able to move to the surface and live there, fulfilling Joy Boy's promise.The Noah needs to be repaired though.
And I strongly believe in the theory that was posted here a while ago, that when Mariejoie is destroyed, the 4 oceans will be connected, creating All Blue. Sanji wasn't wrong when he said that he found his All blue back in FI :D
 

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This isn't related to the ongoing Raftel talk, but it doesn't really fit on the predictions for the next chapter (796) and may sound a bit crazy, so here it goes:

Kaidou learns from Kidd's Alliance that Doflamingo is down;
as a partnership, or after subduing the Supernovas, he takes one of their ships and moves to the island were he was supposed to be;
Trying to avoid an execution by the hands of Kaidou, Caribou spills the beans about Shirahoshi's secret;
set on waging war against the world, Kaidou goes full Crocodile-mode and decides to grab Poseidon for himself, moving towards Fishman Island;
The Mugiwaras move towards Wano (or wherever the Sunny's crew currently is) together with the Happo Navy (or whoever gives 'em a ride);
after the situation on the current island is dealt with (possibly half an arc), the Mugiwaras rush to protect the Mermaids from Kaidou's attack;
to go back, they get their hands on a Eternal Pose to Fishman's Island... possibly from Jinbe;
oh yes, before reaching Wano (or wherever) Luffy and company end up meeting up with Jinbe and Wadatsumi, as Jinbe was trying to reach Big Mom to leave her service... and she just happened to be near all the action. Jinbe then shows the Poneglyph to Robin.

... The Strawhats reach Fishman Island, fight Kaidou (with or without Big Mom's help... as she seemed to be headed to that direction and Lola's Vivre Card is still a possibility), break all the things...

and end up fulfilling Madam Shyarly's Prophecy.
(also, they end up saving everyone by using Noah... completing Joyboy's promisse as bearers of the Will of the D. Clan.)
The only thing that I don't like in your theory is Luffy defeating a Yonko after he just entered the New World... ah, forget me, after all I want One Piece to go on for at least 110 years or so. :D
 

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Don't know if it was ever suggested before, but I have a little theory regarding Zoro and Tashigi...

As we know, Zoro carries three swords and uses three-sword style. He has two of '21 O Wazamono Grade Swords', which are considered as second grade swords. And it is natural to believe that Zoro will advance further with his powers. Since his strength is kind of related to the swords he uses, I think there will be a major update to his arsenal at some point in time. However, can we actually assume that Zoro will give up on Kuina's sword...? Or Ryuma's sword? Zoro really treasures these two katana so he'll keep them. But he utterly needs an upgrade, right?

The solution is quite simple. Zoro will become a 'Tiger Woods' of One Piece. He will have more than three swords in his arsenal and Tashigi will be his 'caddie', carrying all those katana around and giving Zoro advice depending on the situation. Like, "Oh, against this giant Sea King you'd do better with a combination of katana number 3, number 7 and number 10"... This is also how Tashigi will fulfil her own dream of taking all the great swords away from bad guys.

 
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Doesn't sound so bad but there's one problem, Zoro and Tashigi are on opposite sides. Sure they may have worked together a few times but ultimately, Zoro is a pirate (a notorious one at that) and Tashigi is a Marine so it doesn't work out. Also, it's not like they always be together or know where the other one is. There's nothing wrong with Zoro keeping his swords as his collection grows. He would still value all of them. Also, he isn't exactly a collector so he may not even get that many to begin with. Some may break along the way as well
 

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There is a theory out there that Tashigi will be excluded from the Marines, joining the SH afterwards. I can totally see them sailing the oceans together. Taking Tashigi's resemblance with Kuina into account, the plausability of this theory gets espeacially transparent. I mean, these two are meant for each other! ;)
 

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Don't know if it was ever suggested before, but I have a little theory regarding Zoro and Tashigi...

As we know, Zoro carries three swords and uses three-sword style. He has two of '21 O Wazamono Grade Swords', which are considered as second grade swords. And it is natural to believe that Zoro will advance further with his powers. Since his strength is kind of related to the swords he uses, I think there will be a major update to his arsenal at some point in time. However, can we actually assume that Zoro will give up on Kuina's sword...? Or Ryuma's sword? Zoro really treasures these two katana so he'll keep them. But he utterly needs an upgrade, right?

The solution is quite simple. Zoro will become a 'Tiger Woods' of One Piece. He will have more than three swords in his arsenal and Tashigi will be his 'caddie', carrying all those katana around and giving Zoro advice depending on the situation. Like, "Oh, against this giant Sea King you'd do better with a combination of katana number 3, number 7 and number 10"... This is also how Tashigi will fulfil her own dream of taking all the great swords away from bad guys.

Tashigi giving Zoro advice? and there's no way Tashigi is becoming a SH. She's sticking with Smoker all the way.
 
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