Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015-2016] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[SharkBait]

What are the odds of Nisekoi ending next chapter?

Doubtful since there needs to be several chapters to highlight how Ichijojs true feelings are actually for Onodera.

 

[Stark700]

Doubtful since there needs to be several chapters to highlight how Ichijojs true feelings are actually for Onodera.

Don't you mean Shu?

 

[justanotherone]

What are the odds of Nisekoi ending next chapter?

There are still too many plot points to wrap up (like the promise and the pendant). So maybe another 10-15 chapters at best. For now best girl is totally winning xD

 

[dark123]

Toriko could go in a million directions.
I highly doubt it's gonna end in anything less than 30 chapters even if Shimabukuro goes at breakneck speed. Probably more, really.

They've still got 4 teams set out to collect the Full Course ingredients, including Toriko who still has to get God which has been the big goal for the whole manga. There's an open plot line about Ichiryuu and Don Slime. There's a mystery about Frohze and Joa and their backstory and motives. There's Toriko's 3 demons inside his cells and what's goin' on with them. There's Komatsu's demon which looks like Joa's demon that hasn't been explained. There are 3 fights going on right now that don't have conclusions, Jirou VS the Blue Nitro, Midora VS Joa, and Don Slime VS Neo. Teppei's off doing a thing. The Neo creature, which seems to be the ultimate threat, has to be resolved (Right now it can't reach it's final form before it eats God, so you know it's probably gonna do that). After that there's also the "Farthest Land" which is supposed to have to do with the final area you can only get to AFTER you collect the whole Full Course, which is something even Acacia couldn't do.

And at some point Toriko has to collect the remaining few items on his Full Course. Since that's like the "get the One Piece" thing of Toriko. The thing that marks when the series will end is when Toriko has his Full Course because that was the very first big goal established in the series (They also mentioned at the end of the Human World arc that it was a majorly important thing).

All that stuff's gotta be resolved. It's kind of a lot. Toriko's not the sort of series that takes a LONG TIME to finish plots like that (Sometimes a bunch of shit gets settled in one chapter, and sometimes it takes a year) but it's not about to end or anything.


Gintama on the other hand, has to finish out the arc it's on, then after that will probably be the last one where they need to beat Utsuro. They announced at Jump Festa that there'll be an OVA of one of the arcs they didn't animate on the TV show in volumes 65 and 66. This last chapter was the last chapter of V63. So that means the series has at least 3 volumes left, which is a long time for Gintama standards. Arcs are usually really short. So that may be where it ends, or it might go a little longer.

Well there are so many hints that we are going to space that i can not imagine Toriko ending in 2 years Of course there was always talking about final ingredients but Mitsutoshi delivered to us "origin of all tastes", "gourmet big bang" and this whole thing about 3 onis in Toriko. It is impossible to just skip that now. For jump Toriko is still important and very original manga so they won't cancel it. Sales would have to drop 2 times
Whats more there are 3 mangas almost finished like Gintama, Ansatsu and Nisekoi.

 

[WyldViolet]

Well there are so many hints that we are going to space that i can not imagine Toriko ending in 2 years Of course there was always talking about final ingredients but Mitsutoshi delivered to us "origin of all tastes", "gourmet big bang" and this whole thing about 3 onis in Toriko. It is impossible to just skip that now. For jump Toriko is still important and very original manga so they won't cancel it. Sales would have to drop 2 times
Whats more there are 3 mangas almost finished like Gintama, Ansatsu and Nisekoi.

Good sales didn't stop previous series at the same level like Shaman King or Nurahiyon no Mago from cancellation.
Also, he can hint at whatever the hell he wants, doesn't matter if Jump still decides to cancel him.

 

[TyVip]

Toriko can still last for the next 3-5 years , unless there is a mega hit coming in 2016/2017 .

There was a discussion about this not too long ago, Jump is not dumb. They know at least 3 popular series are ending (Assassination classroom, Nisekoi, Gintama)

We will see how Mononofu and Samon perform.

and Hinomaru Zumou, Sesuji wo Pin! to are high ranking low sales series. Toriko's rank is not the end of the world .

 

[AleTheSennin]

A question:
How many volumes has Kagamigami? Its last chapter was the 39th, rigth?

 

[SharkBait]

Toriko can still last for the next 3-5 years , unless there is a mega hit coming in 2016/2017 .

There was a discussion about this not too long ago, Jump is not dumb. They know at least 3 popular series are ending (Assassination classroom, Nisekoi, Gintama)

We will see how Mononofu and Samon perform.

and Hinomaru Zumou, Sesuji wo Pin! to are high ranking low sales series. Toriko's rank is not the end of the world .

I dont think those series would save toriko. Both could be stellar hits once an anime is made. Meanwhile theres nothing that can be done to stabilize Torikos declining sales. Theres also no timeline for gintama ending. For all we know it could end in 2017 or later.

 

[chrisbj]

Toriko can still last for the next 3-5 years , unless there is a mega hit coming in 2016/2017 .

There was a discussion about this not too long ago, Jump is not dumb. They know at least 3 popular series are ending (Assassination classroom, Nisekoi, Gintama)

We will see how Mononofu and Samon perform.

and Hinomaru Zumou, Sesuji wo Pin! to are high ranking low sales series. Toriko's rank is not the end of the world .

I see BnH being a mega hit, I can easily see it reaching AssClass's 1 million+ per volume, and when Black Clover gets it's inevitable anime I can see it at 600k+ ...

 

[conankudo]

What are the odds of Nisekoi ending next chapter?

Impossible. If Nisekoi would end in the upcoming issue it would get Center Colour pages. Given the preview page that is not the case

 

[susanoo13]

I wouldn't expect Black Clover to reach above 350K unless the anime is really good. In it's primary sales it does a less better job than Nurarihyon(123K) and it didn't reach 300K while on Oricon.

 

[chrisbj]

I wouldn't expect Black Clover to reach above 350K unless the anime is really good. In it's primary sales it does a less better job than Nurarihyon(123K) and it didn't reach 300K while on Oricon.

Blue Exorcist wasn't selling over 60k before it's anime, and it jumped to 850k the year after the anime....you never know how appealing a series can be...

 

[susanoo13]

That's why I said, Unless the anime is really good Much like Blue exorcist which was also done by an amazing director which was also responsible for Wolf's rain, Nanatsu, Darker than black, and took part in many other great projects.

 

[SharkBait]

That's why I said, Unless the anime is really good Much like Blue exorcist which was also done by an amazing director which was also responsible for Wolf's rain, Nanatsu, Darker than black, and took part in many other great projects.

Do you really think it got popular because of the director? Or because it was a *good* anime with original content?

 

[Stark700]

I can't believe Black Clover didn't sell more than 18,021 copies in its third week in Oricon. I thought that it would rank for a third week and break 100k for sure this time.

 

[chrisbj]

I can't believe Black Clover didn't sell more than 18,021 copies in its third week in Oricon. I thought that it would rank for a third week and break 100k for sure this time.

How's Toriko doing?

---------- Post added at 06:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:00 PM ----------

Toriko did a bit better...
Toriko 36 231,999 (17 days)
Toriko 37 237,049 (17 days)

 

[SharkBait]

How's Toriko doing?

---------- Post added at 06:32 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:00 PM ----------

Toriko did a bit better...
Toriko 36 231,999 (17 days)
Toriko 37 237,049 (17 days)

But not as good as World Trigger. Dream Trigger indeed.

 

[Stark700]

But not as good as World Trigger. Dream Trigger indeed.

Poor comparison. World Trigger at volume 13 (while still growing), compared to Toriko, 24 volumes more than that, at 37 (while in decline).

A more appropriate comparison is
World Trigger
v1 less than 18,384 in 4 days
v2 31,157 in 5 days
v3 50,838 in 5 days
v4 76,379 in 13 days

Black Clover
v1 38,128 in 4 days
v2 61,918 in 6 days
v3 80,462 in 9 days
v4 93,866 in 10 days

We can see that Black Clover is currently outpacing World Trigger's growth.

 

[James Rye]

Well, BC had far more faster-paced action than WT in those volumes, Wt was more... slow in development.

 

[WyldViolet]

Anybody think Tanaka Yasuki will ever come back to Weekly Jump?