Mag Talk Weekly Shonen Jump [2015-2016] - Discussion and TOC Talk

[TyVip]

Don't know about Samon, but I think Mononofu won't last . It has the same exact formula as Kurogane , and it isn't near Hikaru no Go level .

 

[WyldViolet]

Shounen Jump Issue 7:
Haikyuu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece
Black Clover
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Sesuji wo Pin! to
Food Fighter Tabelu (CP, Special Chapter)
Boku no Hero Academia
Shokugeki no Souma
Samon-kun wa Summoner (CP)
Gintama
Toriko
World Trigger
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Mononfu
Bleach
Nisekoi
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Buddy Strike
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Shounen Jump Issue 8:
Cover, Lead CP: Gintama
CP: Black Clover, Ano Ko wa Yariman (Special Chapter), Renai Haitatsu Tatsujin Posuo (One Shot)​

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[vampire killer]

World trigger won`t be absent next week?? This is odd. And Samon well have reprint soon.
List of mangas that will be cansaled very soon: Nisekoi, Toriko, World Trigger, Buddy Strike.

 

[dark123]

World trigger won`t be absent next week?? This is odd. And Samon well have reprint soon.
List of mangas that will be cansaled very soon: Nisekoi, Toriko, World Trigger, Buddy Strike.

Do you have problems with Toriko? Because you constantly write that it will end soon while there is no evidence. Toriko won't end this year or even next year.

 

[CuriousReborn]

Do you have problems with Toriko? Because you constantly write that it will end soon while there is no evidence. Toriko won't end this year or even next year.

And why shouldn't it be canceled? Its not the big title that it used to be, saying it wont be canceled for the next two years is a bit of a stretch dont you think.

 

[ShenGao]

Now with a visual proof:

Shounen Jump Issue 7:

Haikyuu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece
Black Clover
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
Ansatsu Kyoushitsu
Sesuji wo Pin! to (CP)
Food Fighter Tabelu (CP, Special Chapter)
Boku no Hero Academia
Shokugeki no Souma
Samon-kun wa Summoner (CP)
Gintama
Toriko
World Trigger
Saiki Kusuo no Sainan
Mononfu
Bleach
Nisekoi
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo
Buddy Strike
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Shounen Jump Issue 8:
Cover, Lead CP: Gintama
CP: Black Clover, Ano Ko wa Yariman (Special Chapter), Renai Haitatsu Tatsujin Posuo (One Shot)​

 

[susanoo13]

Tere is a very thick margin between cancelled very soon and ending in 2 years. Not all ending manga are being cancelled you know, Nisekoi could very well end naturally soon and in a mtter of 2 years so can Haikyuu no matter the level of it's success. Toriko being on decline, yes, but middle TOC series don't get cancelled - especially not those who sell 200K and above and have a potential anime after DBSuper ends. Soon we will know how many series(probably 2) will start at the next batch and then we can talk cancellations.

 

[SharkBait]

BLack Clover better performing than HeroAca and Food Wars! nice for continued dominance. And yes yet another CP next issue.

 

[dark123]

Tere is a very thick margin between cancelled very soon and ending in 2 years. Not all ending manga are being cancelled you know, Nisekoi could very well end naturally soon and in a mtter of 2 years so can Haikyuu no matter the level of it's success. Toriko being on decline, yes, but middle TOC series don't get cancelled - especially not those who sell 200K and above and have a potential anime after DBSuper ends. Soon we will know how many series(probably 2) will start at the next batch and then we can talk cancellations.

You are right. TOC position matters but Toriko is most of the time in middle or higher so it is safe and also there are often series higher in TOC but their volumes sales are far lower than Toriko has. No one will cancel manga that gives stable profits and sales around 300k per volume. 300k or even more because data we can see is always from first 3-4 weeks but in Toriko's case volumes are not printed as much as it used to be so people have to buy it later.

 

[ShenGao]

You are right. TOC position matters but Toriko is most of the time in middle or higher so it is safe and also there are often series higher in TOC but their volumes sales are far lower than Toriko has. No one will cancel manga that gives stable profits and sales around 300k per volume. 300k or even more because data we can see is always from first 3-4 weeks but in Toriko's case volumes are not printed as much as it used to be so people have to buy it later.

And what if the author wants to finish the manga? Assassination Classroom is popular without end. It got a 2nd anime season, a new game is being made for it, it sells the 2nd highest per volume of the ongoing WSJ series and yet it will still end earlier than all the other manga which are in a possible danger of cancellation, just because it's author wants to finish it.
I guess Toriko's author is doing the same. The speed at which things get rushed now are an indicator for it's soon coming end.

 

[dark123]

And what if the author wants to finish the manga? Assassination Classroom is popular without end. It got a 2nd anime season, a new game is being made for it, it sells the 2nd highest per volume of the ongoing WSJ series and yet it will still end earlier than all the other manga which are in a possible danger of cancellation, just because it's author wants to finish it.
I guess Toriko's author is doing the same. The speed at which things get rushed now are an indicator for it's soon coming end.

Well i dont think so. He is speeding up because he wants to go explore space. It is basically confirmed now: spaceship, gourmet big bang, origin of all tastes in space, ingredients flying in space. He wants to end earth arc fast and start space arc. I think Mitsutoshi created so amazing world that he doesn't want to use all ideas for earth.

 

[ShenGao]

Well i dont think so. He is speeding up because he wants to go explore space. It is basically confirmed now: spaceship, gourmet big bang, origin of all tastes in space, ingredients flying in space. He wants to end earth arc fast and start space arc. I think Mitsutoshi created so amazing world that he doesn't want to use all ideas for earth.

Having a space arc would come out of nowhere. The whole story of Toriko has been about him making his own menu which he can share with the whole world. Getting ingredients from space to everyone on earth would be impossible.
Also, what should be there after the fight against the 8 Kings and the cooking of the food treasures? The 8 kings are said to be the strongest creatures, which they are because they are all mopping the floor with Toriko, and the food treasures are said to be the best ingredients that exist. So what can come after that? How is Toriko supposed to defeat stronger enemies than the 8 Kings? How is Komatsu supposed to cook something that no human has ever seen before?

 

[vampire killer]

Easy the 5 space heavenly kings have come to conquer earth.

 

[dark123]

Having a space arc would come out of nowhere. The whole story of Toriko has been about him making his own menu which he can share with the whole world. Getting ingredients from space to everyone on earth would be impossible.
Also, what should be there after the fight against the 8 Kings and the cooking of the food treasures? The 8 kings are said to be the strongest creatures, which they are because they are all mopping the floor with Toriko, and the food treasures are said to be the best ingredients that exist. So what can come after that? How is Toriko supposed to defeat stronger enemies than the 8 Kings? How is Komatsu supposed to cook something that no human has ever seen before?

LOL There is a lot to explore. We have to find out from where gourmet demons came, Toriko has to awaken his 3 onis, there was even talk that Blue oni needs food from different world. And you are wrong about 8 kings. They are strongest beast on earth but space is huge. There was even talk about how to change Blue Grill into space ship. This whole manga is connected to beings outside of earth. And this manga is about Toriko, person who will become greatest bishokuya at the world but he is still far from that.

 

[Mammo]

remember when Buddy Strike debuted and a "certain someone" asked how could a manga with such incredible characters designs could fail?

well, just look at the ToC, first ranking dead last, that's how

 

[SharkBait]

remember when Buddy Strike debuted and a "certain someone" asked how could a manga with such incredible characters designs could fail?

well, just look at the ToC, first ranking dead last, that's how

The editors placed it there to give the under performing series a chance to be closer to the front. Notice how Food Wars and Dance-bu are in positions that ought to be held by Buddy Strike. I have no doubt it will be there in the next issue.

 

[WyldViolet]

World trigger won`t be absent next week?? This is odd. And Samon well have reprint soon.
List of mangas that will be cansaled very soon: Nisekoi, Toriko, World Trigger, Buddy Strike.

World Trigger will not be cancelled soon.
At least not until its anime end.

 

[Mammo]

The editors placed it there to give the under performing series a chance to be closer to the front. Notice how Food Wars and Dance-bu are in positions that ought to be held by Buddy Strike. I have no doubt it will be there in the next issue.

ah, the good old "the editors are trolling" argument, sure thing man, we can't ignore that possibility

anyway, did anyone else read Fujimaki's one-shot? I'm surprised at how much I liked it, it was a bit rushed but that's understandable
I liked it way more than Creamators one-shot, why was that set in school? why does everything these day have to be set in school when it obviously doesn't need to?

 

[susanoo13]

If trolling editors is the schtick, why dind't they do it wit BnHA or Black Clover? Why not Sesuji which clearly asa manga that sells 20-30K would be a better fit there?
One thing I can say for certain is that Sesuji is not being promoted due to having a famous author and the proof for it is Stealth Symphony and Guns blaze west by Watsuki which got the axe at 3 volumes long after he wrote the masterpiece which is Kenshin.

Also, when was the last time a manga recieved the trolling editor treatment and outlived 4 volumes?

 

[WyldViolet]

>2016
>People still falling for an obvious yet incredibly dedicated troll