Shounen History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi by Matsuena Syun

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I was just going through the nijima wikia and found this:


Who would have known lol?
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I miss it's good days, the ending was such a big letdown. And we basically never got a proper explanation of the workings of ki even though it ended up having such a huge role towards the end of the manga. It's also a shame that berserker never got a proper fight against kenichi and kensei was never properly dealt with even though he was one of the most dangerous fists due to his twisted way of thinking. You'd think after the tanaka events he'd get to fight someone who defeats and puts him away for good. I wouldn't have minded seeing akisame crippling him for good. Though perhaps that would have been too much for akisame.
 

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I miss it's good days, the ending was such a big letdown. And we basically never got a proper explanation of the workings of ki even though it ended up having such a huge role towards the end of the manga. It's also a shame that berserker never got a proper fight against kenichi and kensei was never properly dealt with even though he was one of the most dangerous fists due to his twisted way of thinking. You'd think after the tanaka events he'd get to fight someone who defeats and puts him away for good. I wouldn't have minded seeing akisame crippling him for good. Though perhaps that would have been too much for akisame.
well the new manga " Tokiwa Kitarerei " isn't doing all that well and it's moving way to fast it might end this year .... and as for Kenichi in the last page of chapter 583 Kenchi said that after the battle he went through other adventures and that's a story for another time , so it might return ..... hopefully :darn
 

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well the new manga " Tokiwa Kitarerei " isn't doing all that well and it's moving way to fast it might end this year .... and as for Kenichi in the last page of chapter 583 Kenchi said that after the battle he went through other adventures and that's a story for another time , so it might return ..... hopefully :darn
I wonder if the author might possibly have an agreement with his publisher to draw and finish Tokiwa within a certain timespan (x years/chapters), and after that they'll let him draw Kenichi again.
 

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I wonder if the author might possibly have an agreement with his publisher to draw and finish Tokiwa within a certain timespan (x years/chapters), and after that they'll let him draw Kenichi again.
It doesn't work like that with manga , it's not a book deal .... it's a problem that every successful Mangaka encounters when he\she finishes a good manga " The Nostalgia Effect " , they become known for it and it's style so if they try a different Type the Readers become nostalgic and don't get excited for the new thing .... for example Kenichi is a Martial arts type of manga that takes place in our modern world but the new manga has magic , Sci-fi , supernatural , aliens , demons , other worlds and most of all adding three main charecters..... that was to hasty of him
 

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It doesn't work like that with manga , it's not a book deal .... it's a problem that every successful Mangaka encounters when he\she finishes a good manga " The Nostalgia Effect " , they become known for it and it's style so if they try a different Type the Readers become nostalgic and don't get excited for the new thing .... for example Kenichi is a Martial arts type of manga that takes place in our modern world but the new manga has magic , Sci-fi , supernatural , aliens , demons , other worlds and most of all adding three main charecters..... that was to hasty of him
I see. I have to admit that I don't know anything about the wy manga publishers work.
I think he might have been able to make a story with one mc and three side main characters (?) work if he didn't jump around between the different realms that much. It's often pretty annoying when we get a new plot point at the end of a chapter, the caption promises some more information in the next chapter, but then the next chapter is about something else. I think the "vision" in chapter 59 might be a good example for this.
 

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Yeah I read the first few chapters and it's feels it's not got away. Still the same vibes. Kenichi at expert level is good news though it annoys me he's still white knighting for miu who is obviously stronger than him.these new super ninjas kids are gonna be villains cum shinpaku alliance sooner rather that later.
 

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A Kenichi sequel wasn't in my bingo card this year.
 

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As far as I can tell the author struggled significantly with his subsequent mangas, which didn't succeed. So bringing this back, even though it didn't even end on a high note, sounds easily like something you'd do when you are creatively broke. On the other hand I can't bring myself to hate the idea of seeing the rest of kenichi's fall to masterhood. And then, dunno, super saiyan? I wouldn't hate seeing... um... what's his name.... the guy who experimented with students... get a proper comeuppance.
 

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As far as I can tell the author struggled significantly with his subsequent mangas, which didn't succeed. So bringing this back, even though it didn't even end on a high note, sounds easily like something you'd do when you are creatively broke. On the other hand I can't bring myself to hate the idea of seeing the rest of kenichi's fall to masterhood. And then, dunno, super saiyan? I wouldn't hate seeing... um... what's his name.... the guy who experimented with students... get a proper comeuppance.
I actually liked the spy series they worked on recently. It did well enough to get nearly 300 chapters and didn't end on a rushed conclusion, so I think don't think success is the issue here. Even if it was, it did well enough that they were given a chance to do a Kenichi sequel.

I just read the first 4 chapters and they were pretty intriguing. Basically jumped back in as if this were a brand new arc (which is basically is). Funny to see the author immediately acknowledge and, apparently, ditch Ma's main pervert gag. Showing awareness that times have changed. It's not like he loses much of anything and he can still be a perv, just not do the crazy shit he was doing in the first series.

TBH, I was never interested in the whole Ninja Clan subplot, so the direction doesn't grab me immediately, but the two fakers are pretty interesting. The idea that Kenichi has been given a unique danger sense that seems tailor made for these new threats is also rather interesting.
 

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I actually liked the spy series they worked on recently. It did well enough to get nearly 300 chapters and didn't end on a rushed conclusion, so I think don't think success is the issue here. Even if it was, it did well enough that they were given a chance to do a Kenichi sequel.

I just read the first 4 chapters and they were pretty intriguing. Basically jumped back in as if this were a brand new arc (which is basically is). Funny to see the author immediately acknowledge and, apparently, ditch Ma's main pervert gag. Showing awareness that times have changed. It's not like he loses much of anything and he can still be a perv, just not do the crazy shit he was doing in the first series.

TBH, I was never interested in the whole Ninja Clan subplot, so the direction doesn't grab me immediately, but the two fakers are pretty interesting. The idea that Kenichi has been given a unique danger sense that seems tailor made for these new threats is also rather interesting.
I started it and then forgot about it. Maybe it just didn't update in my usual sites or something. I went through the first few chapters and it didn't seem bad at least.

Yeah, the bit with kensei.. felt a bit like the author had an editor with rusty pipe behind him.

I'm pretty sure his bully sense is just a gag.
 

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I'm pretty sure his bully sense is just a gag.
I'm not sure. It seems to be taken rather seriously since Shigure had praised his ability to sense the true intentions of the two fighters, Miu couldn't sense their intentions or locations, and the guy ninja expressed annoyance that Kenichi could sense and counter his attack. It feels like the author may be going for a type of deal where Kenichi's background gives him certain advantages over those born into the world of fighting, which was something the author was playing with in the spy series.

I've been thinking about things I want to see in this sequel, and I'm really hoping weapon users are given a bit more respect this go round. I still hate that we literally had a Ryozanpaku and Yami equivalent for weapon users, but they were all treated kinda like trash.
 

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I'm not sure. It seems to be taken rather seriously since Shigure had praised his ability to sense the true intentions of the two fighters, Miu couldn't sense their intentions or locations, and the guy ninja expressed annoyance that Kenichi could sense and counter his attack. It feels like the author may be going for a type of deal where Kenichi's background gives him certain advantages over those born into the world of fighting, which was something the author was playing with in the spy series.

I've been thinking about things I want to see in this sequel, and I'm really hoping weapon users are given a bit more respect this go round. I still hate that we literally had a Ryozanpaku and Yami equivalent for weapon users, but they were all treated kinda like trash.
Dunno, to me "I've been bullied so much that I can tell these kids are faking being bullied" sounds pretty strong on the gag side of things. Of course, gags can evolve to real powers in manga so there's that. I suppose it's worth noting that kenichi is a sei ki user capable of seikuken and ryusui seikuken which is basically ultra instinct before untra instinct was cool so maybe kenichi is just predisposed to that nonsense.

Yeah, I wouldn't mind weapon users getting some respect. Though there's no way this respect transforms into victories against ryozanpaku. And to be fair to weapon users, the only real rival the elder ever had was a weapon user. IIRC no one in yami was a rival to the elder, not even kushinada or saiga iirc.
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Hmm, I wonder if next chapter we get to see kenichi use some of his master class ki? I suppose his usual ryusui seikuken is more likely though.
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Have we seen clone techniques before? It's been too long but I think akisame or ma may have done something like that. I suppose that now that kenichi is going to be facing expert level opponents it makes sense we will see more and more techniques which seem less grounded and closer to the absurd nonsense masters are capable of.
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I don't remember much of the kuremisago but seeing the girl spit... needles at miu makes me think they will be more practical fighters than the one shadow nine fists and use both their bodies and weapons to kill enemies efficiently.
 

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I don't remember much of the kuremisago but seeing the girl spit... needles at miu makes me think they will be more practical fighters than the one shadow nine fists and use both their bodies and weapons to kill enemies efficiently.
Yeah, it does look like that's the point the guy was making to Kenichi. Both Miu's dad, the other ninja master he fought, and the final Yomi Disciple focused on the martial arts aspect of their ninjutsu. This new group seems to be going all in on the deception and precision.
 

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Remembering a bit more of the story, it's a bit weird that the enemy right now is from the kuremisago. IIRC the kuremisago was more or less extinct barring that one dude that was impersonating Saiga. I suppose it'd be fititng if a ninja clan following a civil war type conflict decided it's better to become less notorious and started acting properly from the shadows.
 

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Remembering a bit more of the story, it's a bit weird that the enemy right now is from the kuremisago. IIRC the kuremisago was more or less extinct barring that one dude that was impersonating Saiga. I suppose it'd be fititng if a ninja clan following a civil war type conflict decided it's better to become less notorious and started acting properly from the shadows.
I thought the same, but I'm skimming through the ending a bit and it doesn't seem like they were all extinct, just splintered heavily due to the civil war.

I imagine these kids are being raised the traditional way since that is was that guy was trying to do. I also assume they want Miu because she is apart of that strongest bloodline thing through her mother.
 

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Hmm, multiple kuremisago factions suddenly becoming active due to the fallout of the one shadow nine fists sounds appropriate. You'd think the biggest consequence of the fallout would be a power vacuum to begin with. Add to that that almost all of the old one shadow nine fist barring junazad are alive as of now (not sure about the dude impersonating saiga, I think he isn't) so it wouldn't be weird if they are causing trouble elsewhere. Specially ishinsai, arguably the biggest plot hole left over from the first series.
 
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